People have a hard time conceptualizing really big numbers, and a billion is a really big number. If you put $1B into a fixed rate investment earning 5% annually, you'd be getting $50M a year just from that. Most investments in the market do much better than that. So if she kept just (just!) $10B of what she got, she could easily be getting back well over $500M without doing anything at all. Every year, forever. If she doesn't spend or give away that much, then what she gets back grows.
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Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Financial obesity, love that term
Obesity is a perfectly valid technical term.
While medical obesity is typically outside the control of those affected, perpetuating financial obesity is absolutely within the control and responsibility of the morbidly wealthy.
Evil no, but undesirable like a medical condition. I do think there are a lot of parallels. Shouldn't use it as a scare
This comment thread made want to eat myself to death.
I'm so tired of this. Why are we acting like some people are just born Obese? The Obese are not a protected class. Mentioning obesity in a negative context is not hate speech.
In fact I say normalize fat shaming. Fuck it. Obesity costs the US healthcare system $150B/yr as a conservative estimate. Donate that, you *** ****.
There is more to it than personal moral failing, though. There's a reason obesity is more prevalent in some countries than in others. It's not fair to fully blame people who become obese. You can't shame people into a healthy diet. It just makes you a dick
Not going to continue this conversation. This is not a debate. Nobody is promoting obesity, just basic decency towards people who are obese. Don't be a dick.
Yes im fatphobic, im scared of being so fat i get sick and die. That's perfectly healthy just like being scared of smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol.
And Jeff has given away $0. That guy is truly the scum of the earth.
Such a small fraction of their net worth would change my life that it’s equivalent to pennies you might find in your sofa. Like not even millions or hundreds of thousands, but a thousand. A thousand would be life changing to me right now, and that’s .0001 of their worth.
Nobody should have that kind of money. Slay the dragons.
Every fact I scrolled past and read on that made me more depressed while slowly raising my blood pressure.
Throw the rich in a ditch.
Nice link, that part where your scrolling while seeing the billions going up takes like forever.
I clicked the url because you read your comment saying if they gave you $1,000 that would be 0,0001% of their wealth but that would be only true if their wealth was exactly one million. But we're talking about billionaire, and if a billionaire would give you $1000 he'd give you 0,0000001% of their wealth. If they have 10 billion it would be 0,00000001% and if they have 100 billion it would be 0,000000001%. According to Forbes there are over 20 individuals with that kind of money. (https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/)
MacKenzie Scott actually helped found Amazon, she married Bezos before Amazon even existed and literally worked on it with him from the very beginning. The whole idea that she married into wealth or "got it from the divorce" reeks of sexism.
She's also rapidly giving away her money with no strings attached, and she's supporting underserved communities all over the US. The HBCU in my city got a massive grant from her that's totally transformed what it will be capable of, for example. I just don't get why you're choosing this person to rag on out of all the truly vile billionaires out there
I don't see it as ragging on her. I think she is being used as an example as she has given away more in proportion to her total wealth than most other billionaires yet is now worth more than ever. The point I believe this meme is making is billionaires will still continue to be obscenely rich even if they are heavily taxed.
I see it as pointing out that even after giving away around 2/3rds of her wealth, the remaining third managed to generate more than what was given away.
In other words, an example of the axiom that you need money in order to make money, and if you have an obscene amount like $10 billion , it can double itself easily without any real effort on your part required
I respect her contributions and philanthropy. I just don’t think essential social support should depend on the generosity of billionaires instead of stable public systems.
No human needs a billion dollars. It's an utterly obscene amount of money and just because you give away $26 billion does not mean that the remaining 10 billion is an acceptable amount to keep.
I don't disagree, but my points still stand
To counter your actual point, they might have picked her because there isn't another billionaire who gave away such a big part of their wealth at once. Bill Gates could have given away more over time, i don't know really, but her giving away so much proves even with just a few billion you can multiple your wealth in a few years. I guess that has to do with the fact any one that rich only needs like >0,01% of their wealth to fund their extremely comfortable life.
If I were a billionaire I would be careful about where to give my money. Like that would be my full-time job. You always hear about organizations that spend most of contributions on overhead and have overpaid CEOs, like Goodwill. I'd want to lay eyes on every place I gave to so I could be reassured it's not another org that just shifts money around.
It's just not ragging on her at all, it's holding her up as a great example of a billionaire doing good things and still making a profit because they can't help it due to the sheer size of her fortune.
And she’s actively trying to give it all away and she’s doing it faster than other “philanthropists.” She didn’t start a foundation which will hoard most of it and give a tiny (legal minimum) away each year but is instead makimg direct gifts. She also isn’t giving small gifts to small organizations to help them grow, she’s making big gifts to big orgs that can handle the money.
And despite all of this is continues to grow too rapidly.
Can she give me a small gift? Really anything more than what I have now would be nice but $1mil would be really cool?
most of them use it to launder money/hiding thier taxes anyways. GATES is a likely example, he was only doing ti to deflect attention away from being involved with epstein. I knew there was wierd vibes coming from him. he did an AMA a while back about his charity, they dint allow money launder/tax avoidance to be discussed.
she also refused to be named on any buildings after her, its only way to know you are genuine. unlike zuckerberg who donated to SFGH, TO name it after himself.
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