I'm actually impressed. It's incredibly difficult to leave an identity cult without professional help. The guy is genuinely an inspiration and I hope others that heard him will also be inspired.

Very difficult when you commit yourself to believing in somebody

It's really not.

Here's a tip, don't "commit yourself" to any fucking slimy politician (let alone this one)

This guy is not for real. No Trump voter knows how to use the word “cumulative.”

A lot of people actually didn't get through that. Too many people seem to think that just because most people survive something that "we got through it" and so it was fine even if it was pretty bad.

They already are. And they were.

They were lied to.

That's why Donald is polling lower than Jimmy Carter.

Yeah... The mid 2020s??? Oh, that was all three guys no one voted for.

The big difference between Hitler and Trump is the people did not elect Hitler, not even once.

I mean to be fair he gave a good explanation i thought, slowly realizing over time that he was wrong. Yeah is he a dumbass for voting for him three times, of course. But apparently half our country is dumbasses and understanding how their minds work is key to surviving in this dumbass country.

They were perfectly happy to let trump F everything up as long as it was everyone else getting F’d. As soon as it inconveniences them, they suddenly find some kind of righteous morality.

Yes. That's partially because many Americans are racist (or at least willing to throw someone else under the bus) and weak-minded, and partially because our education has been intentionally dismantled by the parasite class.

Now, are you more interested in lauding your own moral superiority over them (thereby making them feel unwelcome in spaces and communities able to enact actual positive change) or are you more interested in building working class consciousness?

You have to pick one.

If you're a marginalized / vulnerable person, by all means stay away from these people because yes, they are largely indoctrinated garbage and will probably make you feel unsafe. And you can disregard everything I'm saying in this comment because it's not my position to tell you how to respond to that danger.

But if you're a white liberal (not exactly a longshot guess here on Lemmy), then that is your responsibility. You aren't going to dismantle whiteness by finger-wagging and offering "I told you so" on the internet, you'll dismantle it by showing them another, better way.

It's either that or you round them up and kill them, and I don't think that would be a particularly beneficial approach (except for those convicted Nuremberg style). Otherwise, these people aren't going away and will continue to effect the trajectory of our country. You can try to help heal them, or you can deal with the consequences of them continuing to exist as a moral, spiritual, and emotional black hole.

Until either Democratic or Republican party primaries produce decent candidates who prioritize the American people the general elections are irrelevant.

"Now that it affects me I'm mad at him". Not the myriad other reasons no sane person wouldn't vote for mango Mussolini

Pedophilia? Ok

Corruption? Ok

Mass killings in wars ? Ok

Cutting social services? Ok

Record debt? Ok

$4.90 a tank of gas? Whoa...HANG ON THERE...

It would help if Republicans could distinguish between the actual "radical left" and the center-right (and moving further right) DNC. If they knew actual leftist policies, many would support them, as has been shown in a bunch of those "tricking Trump voters" Youtube videos. Unfortunately they've been conditioned to fear words like "socialism" and "communism" so you have to wrap the concepts in cheese, metaphorically, while feeding it to them.

We live in a democracy.

We live in a plutocracy. Otherwise the Biden Admin would've ended all aid to Pissrael and the Trump Admin wouldn't have gone to war with Iran. Otherwise the data center using 2x the energy of the entire state of Utah wouldn't have been approved. Otherwise cannabis would be federally legal.

We only have the illusion of democracy. Democracy theater.

Assuming it was a democracy rather than an oligarchy, sure. Your point is still valid though.

We live in a democracy. When you vote for someone that does horrible things, that’s like hiring someone to do horrible things for you.

I mean this doesn't just apply to horrible things right? Voters who support a candidate are responsible for their failures, dereliction of duty along with their successes correct?

There were no boomers in the 1930s, life expectancy was 62. We now have demented voting for demented.

We need to make sure they remember it. A mark of the beast if you will.

Yes, the three time Trump voter. Genuine intelligence. Give me a break.

He voted for trump 3 times, he's dumber than a fucking rock.

I still have trouble giving a pass for the whole 3-time Trump voter thing. More than half the country is smarter than this, because half didn't vote Trump at all, and some percentage of Trump voters didn't vote for him multiple times.

I get it, credit where it's due and all that. I'm glad he came to his senses, but we don't have to pretend he's a genius for it.

Not at all.

The backlash against Minneapolis was bipartisan, at least among the people. The backlash to the war is even more mainstream. Donald's popularity is even worse than that of Jimmy Carter, so a significant percentage of people who voted Republican are likely to flip or simply not vote in the next election.

The problem is that people who voted Republican, admit it, and then affirm publicly they're going to vote differently have the fingers of Democratic partisans (And hypocritically, at that, given their support of genocide) wagging in their face, and people are more likely to not vote at all than to vote for someone who outwardly and purposely hates them despite their change of heart.

hold on to that hope. I imagine this dumbass will happily vote for JD couchfucking vance with absolutely zero reflection

I think i'd rather stay dumb then