Please remove pine64 from the list. They are selling ancient hardware with little to no support. I got burned this way 2 week ago. Trust in pine64 is misplaced.
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I'm curious why Fairphone is not mentioned?
Also if you're in Canada, this site ships internationally
https://www.clove.co.uk/collections/smartphones-fairphone/products/fairphone-gen-6
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That's a nice set of devices. For a person not interested in degoogled Androids, since it would be Android anyway, what would be the best mobile OS for regular use? Ubuntu touch? Sailfish?
Some key aspects are stability, ease of use, quantity, and quality of the app ecosystem and community.
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I don't think we should keep putting pine phones on these lists. They are far from consumer grade and are basically just toys for linux nerds.
But will it run my banking app?
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Crazy that no one mentioned the trump phone \s
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I wonder why they didn't mention Fairphone. There are a few others worth getting an honourable mention too.
GrapheneOS - Partner with Motorola, although the first Graphene phone may not be until early 2027
Operating Systems (as are both above) that can be installed to a list of devices that can be purchased today. Nothing really new here, I just thought it might be nice to have a longer list of devices all in the one place.
CalyxOS (Discontinued?)
Purism is 2000 starting price and made in the US. It has 4gb of storage.
In-case this helps anyone else, the dimensions of these phones:
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https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-6/
Dimensions (HxWxD) 156.5ร 73.3ร 9.6mm
https://www.punkt.ch/products/mc02-5g-secure-phone Dimensions: 165.9 x 77.8 x 10.9mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-quintus/ Device dimensions 164.15 x 74.7 x 8.75 mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-plinius/ Dimenstions 163 mm x 76 mm x 10.5 mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-x23/ Device dimensions 160.9 x 80 mm x 12.2 mm
https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sep-ii-2026 Dimensions: ~158 x 74 x 9mm, est. 190g
https://furilabs.com/ Dimensions 170mm x 76mm x 8mm / 291g
https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ Dimensions (WรHรT): 74ร152ร15 mm
https://pine64.org/devices/pinephone_pro/ Dimensions 160.8 x 76.6 x 11.1mm
https://store.fxtec.com/pro1/#specification Dimensions: 154 x 73.6 x 13.98 mm
I wish there were a small phone :(
All of those companies should work together to create one Linux-based OS.
Majority on your list are using a de-googled Android OS or have some Linux based alternative as an offer. Issue with Linux is: it's amazing, yet still far away from mass adoption.
To get there we have to create European based open OS that everyone adopts for their non-us tech phones. With popularity and distribution more major apps will be available directly and not through work arounds (e.g. open app stores, etc). It's also a huge f*** you to American oligarchs if Europen tech companies are coming together to show their strength.
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I tried PostmarketOS. Its fine. But with no audio on the speaker and really slow WiFi speed it is not usable. Hardware: Fairphone 4
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FairPhone, the farest away from Google or US Tech (EU, NL), sustainable and modular, e/OS (EU, FR)
what about the nord n10 with ubuntu touch ?
shift!
You can buy the shiftphone 8 with /e/OS, iodรฉOS, ShiftOS-L, all of them are degoogled.
My gf has one and it's great.
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One problem with trying to use a phone that is completely outside of the Apple and Google ecosystems is that Google is also trying to push this crap, which IMO is not getting nearly enough coverage, and will completely lock out phones that aren't blessed (cryptographically signed) by Apple or Google.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-recaptcha-play-services-requirement-3664806/
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