A stainless steel breakthrough from the University of Hong Kong (HKU) could help solve one of the biggest problems facing green hydrogen: how to build electrolyzers that are tough enough for seawater, yet cheap enough for large scale clean energy.

Led by Professor Mingxin Huang in HKU's Department of Mechanical Engineering, the team developed a special stainless steel for hydrogen production (SS-H2). The material resists corrosion under conditions that normally push stainless steel past its limits, making it a promising candidate for producing hydrogen from seawater and other harsh electrolyzer environments.

The discovery, reported in Materials Today in the study "A sequential dual-passivation strategy for designing stainless steel used above water oxidation," builds on Huang's long running "Super Steel" Project. The same research program previously produced anti-COVID-19 stainless steel in 2021, along with ultra strong and ultra tough Super Steel in 2017 and 2020.

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[–] 31 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is quite interesting. Maybe the breakthrough that the "green hydrogen" ideas needed, because so far they have been pretty much dead in the water.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    storage and transport is the bigger issue, along with H being a GHG so the inevitable fugitive emissions are a huge issue.

    It's a stupid thing to do, but that's why we'll do it anyway.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    I doubt unbound hydrogen would exist long enough in the presence of atmospheric oxygen to cause much problems.

    Otherwise, yeah some issues with it exist, but that it is at least partially possible to reuse the huge amount of fossile fuel infrastructure that already exists is a big theoretical advantage.

    And it would be hugely beneficial for nitrogen fertilizer production.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago
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    [–] 51 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    "Canot be explained."

    ...then the scientists explain it.

    *sigh

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The first layer is the familiar Cr2O3 based passive film. Then, at around ~720 mV, a manganese based layer forms on top of the chromium based layer. This second shield helps protect the steel in chloride containing environments up to an ultra high potential of 1700 mV.

    That is what makes the finding so striking. Manganese is usually not viewed as a friend of stainless steel corrosion resistance. In fact, the prevailing view has been that manganese weakens it.

    "Initially, we did not believe it because the prevailing view is that Mn impairs the corrosion resistance of stainless steel. Mn-based passivation is a counter-intuitive discovery, which cannot be explained by current knowledge in corrosion science. However, when numerous atomic-level results were presented, we were convinced. Beyond being surprised, we cannot wait to exploit the mechanism," said Dr. Kaiping Yu, the first author of the article, whose PhD is supervised by Professor Huang.

    They know how to make it work. The currently unexplainable part is why because manganese is the key to this working. Manganese usually doesn’t protect stainless steel from corrosion but it is when layered over the chromium based layer.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    “Cannot be explained” – New ultra stainless steel quietly stuns researchers

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Industrial Engineers slammed by ultra stainless steel. "I was speechless", says factory worker.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    "inexplicable": a higher manganese content causes a secondary passive layer to form at approximately 720 mV

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    [–] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    cannot be explained

    Is explained.

    Edit: okay fine it is an apparent quote of a researcher regarding the corrosion mechanism not the method of creating the stainless steel.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 6 months ago

    If you're aware of electrocorrosion issues in salty electrolytes and ever looked into platinated titanium electrodes it is a very neat result. Hydrogen directly from seawater in a cheap stable cell is huge.

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    [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Disclaimer : the conversion of electricity → hydrogen is really poor (think 10%) so unless hydrogen is specifically needed for an application (eg : industry/ agriculture), using it as a way to transport energy or to power a car (once again, H2 →mechanical power is less efficient than electricity →mechanical power) is stupid (in 99.9% cases). Well done to those scientists, but i don't wanna hear anything about hydrogen planes and all of that nonsense

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    First of all, conversion from electricity to hydrogen achieves 60–80% system efficiency which isn't even the theoretical maximum. Meanwhile, round-trip efficiency of P2P energy storage system with micro gas turbines between 22% and 29%.. It's expected that efficiency could get to around 40% in the next decade as well.

    So, I don't think that's actually a huge issue. The main problem with hydrogen for stuff like planes is low energy density. But that's not an issue for stuff like ground batteries which are used to capture energy from wind and solar. This also works for transport like trucks. And a big advantage for hydrogen is that it doesn't need large amounts of rare earths as you do for traditional batteries.

    China is taking a shotgun approach to their energy mix where they try a whole bunch of different things, and then see where different methods of energy production and storage make the most sense.

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    [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Mineralogists hate this one weird trick

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