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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

In France, every BMW driver is a massive asshole that cannot drive properly. I should make statistics about this.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

There is no border for that issue, it’s universal, the only reason anyone would buy a BMW in the first place is because they’re already a stupid asshole.

It’s like the square and quadrilateral thing. Not every stupid asshole has a BMW, but everyone who has a BMW is a stupid asshole.

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[–] Bademantel@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

It's not all that different in Germany.

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[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago*

Nor in the US. Though the bar is lower here, admittedly.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

That seems universal.

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[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

Don't. Otherwise people here gonna label u as a racist lol. /j

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[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Bavarian Money Wasters

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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

Toyota aygo from '03 FTW

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

It’s not that I love my bike. It’s that I love the hundreds of unplayed indie games I bought on Steam more than I would love a car.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 16 points 6 months ago

What did you expect for buying a fucking BMW.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I am going to laugh if OP didn't pick a BMW for a reason and it was just the first car image to come up when they made the meme.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world [S] 16 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I drive a Mazda.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Ooohhhh e46 estate 😍

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Long live the long roof!

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Woo...the BMW E46 Kombi is one of my favorites.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 4 points 6 months ago

ZIS IS TOURING

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago

¡Yo tambien! But it's still a beemer meaning you never really get rid of that car note.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

And this is why you want to promote bicycles. Most car trips are under 3 miles which is easily doable on a bicycle, even easier on an electric bicycle.

Maintenance costs? Like double digit costs per year per bike, if that. I bought a new bike and had zero maintenance costs for 2 years now

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yeah as much as agree with the "fuck cars" sentiment, it's simply not possible or even safe in more rural, or even suburban, environments.

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[–] goldfndr@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

Or watery, like a houseboat.

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[–] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

I live in the netherlands, here even people in rural places bike. It’s an infrastructure problem, not a bike problem.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago

Oh, I completely agree! I'm just speaking from experience. We got a bridge near me, with plenty large enough leeways on the side, that cops will ticket pepper walking or riding a bike.

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

It's a "shitty people" problem.

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[–] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

we have shitty people here too. It’s just that those shitty people also bike (or have relatives that do so), and thus have an interest in keeping biking safe.

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[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

This really depends on where you live. Most of my car trips range between 10 and 60 miles.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago

gotta cut down on the pedis, bud. sometimes you just gotta live with normal people funky toenails

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[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Me in my $1300 lancer wagon 2007 laughing in duct tape and safety hazards

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago* (2 children)

Well, my 2002 Golf mk4 1.9 TDI only needed a rear axle replacement, some not really necessary stuff (rust) and oil changes.

What are people doing with their cars?

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[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I think its more what are they not doing. I bought this car in a meh condition and have only done the bare minimum to keep it alive and passning inspection.

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[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Fair point. The car has actually been in my family it's whole lifetime. It was taken care of and regularly maintained, like all cars should be.

But if you bought your car in a shitty condition and/or can't afford to repair it, it's fine.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

Same with motorcycles sadly. They are fairly cheap to buy, especially when used, but the maintenance, insurance, and parking adds up to thousands of dollars quickly.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (26 children)

It means you cannot afford that car and should either get an appropriate one or none.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 29 points 6 months ago* (19 children)

Depreciation is the biggest loss for newish cars, but maintaince, fuel, tires, insurance costs come up quickly, often averaging 5-7K/year.

In much of America, not having a car means not being able to get to work or buy food.

If you can't afford a car, you might be able to afford operating costs for a used japanese motorcycle.

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[–] deepflows@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago (11 children)

As a European with very decent public transit and bicycle options, I feel like an idiot for getting a Mazda 3 half a year ago. I really should have tried to make do with a nice cargo bike. Could’ve been hundred of Euros going into my ETF instead of payments, insurance and so on.

Oh well, at least I don’t anticipate a lot of trouble from my Mazda.

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[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I'm a retired Brit living in the middle of the Welsh Marches, 10 miles from the nearest town. There is no public transport. Having a car is vital out here and I dread the day my 13-year-old Tiguan gives up the ghost.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Simply buy a 20 year old honda.

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[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago

I drive an 18 year old Honda with 250k km on the clock right now and it's been sunshine and rainbows for the last 20K atleast

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[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago

Similar distance from town but in Australia. My 2002 Verada and 1996 Magna just keep on going. Look after them and they'll usually look after you. Not sure how much built in obsolescence might be in a Tiguan though. Might be old enough to be predictable.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

Well if it's one of the direct injected petrol models, it's prone to carbon buildup on the valves, which can be cleaned preemptively - if the buildup gets too bad, it can wreck the valves IIRC. If it's a DSG rather than a conventional automatic or manual, those can be problematic depending on the exact version. Expect a couple grand to fix if it goes wrong. Any chain-driven VAG engine usually doesn't have a very long lifetime on the chain and they're a pain to replace.

I wish you luck with the Tiguan, but honestly if I was a Brit living in the countryside, I'd rather be driving a Land Rover. Not that I expect it to be less problematic than VW, I just think they're cooler and it's the one country where LR enthusiasts and independent workshops are plentiful.

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[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As somebody who primarily works on land rovers, LOL. They are certainly designed to keep us in business !

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh there's a good reason I said "not that I expect it to be less problematic" lol

I just have bad experience with VAG cars and know many others who do too. I consider it to be about as horrible to own as JLR, without the cool factor.

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[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

Yea some are worse than others too! I don't love the Ford era stuff. I like the L332 with the bmw V8 believe it or not, and love me a 300tdi cuz despite always leaking oil and having something fucked up they are simple machines that just keep kicking. As long as you know what your getting into! The range rover super charged V8 is a riot too as long as it don't break while you own it LOL

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

Personally I really want the Ford diesel, specifically the 4.4 V8 because it comes with the 8HP transmission which is the bees knees and, well, diesel V8!

But late L322s are very expensive here compared to the UK. Usually higher mileage too. I want a depreciated range rover to be at least cheap to buy because I already know it's not gonna be cheap to maintain. Luckily I do already do my own repairs on all kinds of cars that I've owned, almost none of them sensible and simple.

It would in fact be cheaper to get an L405 over a nice L322 but I trust those even less. Aluminium body might be nice here in road salt country, but the electronics seem like too much work.

Perhaps I'll instead one day take up the project of 8HP swapping an early diesel 322. I know the M57 well enough and they're cheap. It's just that I hate the transmission those engines are attached to in these cars lol

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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Diesel or petrol? Skyactive diesel engines w/turbo needs one long drive a week to burn the particle filter if you do many short drives

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[–] deepflows@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the tip! It’s a 2.5L naturally aspirated petrol engine, which hopefully should be rather reliable.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

I can afford my car, it'd cost me 5-7k a year if I had to rebuild the transmission every year. Mostly I get by on <3k a year all in since it's depreciated and my insurance is like 20 EUR a month and I do my own repairs. This with a notorious German money pit that will be celebrating its 20th next year.

However

I'd still take the motorcycle if I could. Seems way more fun. But now I've got a 2 year old so that plan's on pause for several years. I had a nice older Ducati Monster picked out before I got coaxed into this, which I was fully expecting to not be very sensible lol

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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Biggest car costs are insurance, taxes and big repairs as you said. In lots of countries those costs can go down if you choose the right car. Other option of not owning a car, while varying in difficulty, include car pooling, taking the bus or other kinds of public transportation, moving near place of work or at least moving near public transportation lines.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Anyone who is broke because of their car obviously doesn't have better options.

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[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

Just buy a house near your very stable and well-paying job, duh!

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago

I know people that spend the entirety of what would be their disposable income in a car they barely use. Which still beats the idiots bankrupting themselves to go on 1 hour traffic jams to avoid a 15 minute train ride. Don't underestimate car brains.

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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Two important things:

In case of justified need, can a person afford their car or is a downgrade or change to a more affordable car the right move.
The car might be just an option and one can go with owning one.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

7'000 per year for a car? How much are you driving? The average is "only" 14'000 miles per year (median much lower). At 5$/gallon and 25 MPG that are fuel cost of 2'800 $. The rest combined should be below the fuel cost.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Eh? My Honda Civic just had to have its struts replaced, and that was a $1000 expense which was difficult to cope with and would have been impossible were I not working three different jobs. If I wanted working AC, which I have never had in the vehicle, I’d need to spend like ~2k every year because the model has a defective condenser (and in Trump’s America, warranties are suggestions)

At some point you have to recognize that many Americans cannot afford any vehicle. Unfortunately the U.S. is not designed for people who don’t have vehicles.

While my car was in the shop yesterday, I looked at my options for getting to work, which is about seven miles from my house. There was a bus route, which would have taken at least a full hour compared to my usual 15 minute drive, and there was Uber/lyft, which would have cost me about a third of the money I’d make at work.

If god forbid, something happened to my car, I’d have to take a loan out for something I could not afford, because I have to be able to get to work to survive and pay for the damn car!

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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

How are you even working three jobs?

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Really it’s like 3.5 with the side gigs too.

I’d probably be ripping my hair out and back inpatient if it weren’t for one job ending in a couple of weeks and another slowing down substantially around the same time.

I don’t sleep much until I get sick and have to take off from one of the jobs for a “catch up” day. I drink three or four Red Bulls a day, plus some Diet Coke to top off.

I was hoping to have enough to move states by the end of the summer, but it turns out I’ll probably still not have enough. Very difficult to rebuild when you get divorced from a vindictive billionaire.

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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That sounds rough. Respect for keeping things moving, especially with three jobs. Seriously impressive dedication. If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work are you doing to make this setup possible.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

All the jobs are in the field of education.

Somehow, I’ve mastered the art of doing calculus on 5 hours of sleep!kk

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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

Very smart choice. Education is a good field. 👍

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Stop measuring your self-worth by the car you drive -> Buy ancient Toyota or Honda -> Save $800/mo in car payment, $300/mo full-coverage insurance -> Pay for the occasional repairs -> Profit.

Or, keep paying out the nose for a status symbol that you use for an hour or two a day to be seen by strangers who will think you're an asshole who can't drive or park regardless of how shiny the badge is on your hood.

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[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like the guy in the 100k BMW is gonna stop to think about depreciating assets... C'MON!

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Like the guy in the 500k BMW is gonna stop to think about depreciating assets... C'MON!

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

A fool and his money...

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

reliable used cars cost nearly as much as new ones these days.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Reliable cars have existed for quite some time. Some of them are older and need some of the parts replaced, but they are no less reliable.

But, If by reliable you mean 'cars I can drive for years with only simple maintenance' then yes, you're right. Only new-ish cars will have that property.

However, if you have to spend $5000 to repair a $5000 used car which costs you $0/mo + $80/mo in insurance you will save far more money in the long-term than paying a $5000 down payment and then $700-800/mo + $200-250/mo in comprehensive insurance for the next 72 months.

It is a lot easier and less hassle to simply sign a contract and pay $950/mo, but it is far more expensive in the long-term.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

Until that $5000 car needs another $5000 repair, and another and another.

There is a reason most cars don't last more than 10 years.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

There are not many things that can require a $5,000 repair, unless you're crashing your car into things in which case a new car is going to hurt your even more.

A $5,000 repair is still cheaper than an $1000/mo car+insurance payment. Unless you're replacing your engine or transmission every 4 months then you're still going to be paying less by covering the repairs.

The cost of ownership of a used car 5-10 years old is cheaper than a new vehicle. This has been the case for decades. Buying a new car has always been the most expensive option in both the short and long term.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

lol what. i have a 1yr old car. my insurance and car payment is like 450 a month, and the new payment goes away after 3 years. you are vastly over exaggeration.

i got a new car because my 10 year old car needed $5000 worth of work and it made no sense to keep it anymore. new tires, fluid flushes, new brakes, etc. not sure if you have had a car worked recently, but like a brake job for all four brakes alone is $1500. the tires and wheel balance was $600, etc. a nicer car would have cost a lot more. one reason i don't own a suv is the maintenance costs are double that of than a fwd sedan. had it been a crv the maintence would have run me probably 8000.

your prices seem 10-20 years out of date for car repairs. yeha, in 2002 I was paying like $2000 to overhaul an old camry, but that was 25 years ago.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

your prices seem 10-20 years out of date for car repairs. yeha, in 2002 I was paying like $2000 to overhaul an old camry, but that was 25 years ago.

The cost of new car ownership has massively increased since 10-20 years ago. If it was a better deal 10 years ago, it is even better now.

Here's the data: https://www.bts.gov/content/average-cost-owning-and-operating-automobilea-assuming-15000-vehicle-miles-year

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago

data is great, but data isn't reflective of my local mechanic rates.

in my city car mechanics charge 200/hr, on the cheap side. bicycle mechanics, charge 100/hr.

i am sure in rural texas the costs of mechanic work or half or less than what i pay.