And here I thought liberals loved choosing the lesser evil, smh

this makes me so happy you got the orange man, I hope he drags you all to hell ASAP where you belong

Do you really think that your arguments are somehow well thought out points and don’t scream propagandist mill?

I think you guys never have a compelling response to them and always, 100% of the time, end up saying some version of "These are the Bad Guy Ideas and I don't have to entertain them, because you are self-evidently Bad Guys and also mentally ill."

Citations Needed podcast:
Whataboutism - The Media's Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy

Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.

But what if "whataboutism" isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term "whataboutism" has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.

What point are you trying to make? A country that commits some of the most heinous atrocities in recent history and has serious flaws in their society like racism and inequality does NOT get to dictate and police others on these matters, especially in matters of morality. It's completely ironic and hypocritical and not to mention reeks of chauvinism.

Someone in the comments on [the other site] called me a tankie for arguing that the USA has done way worse things than China in recent history, which prompted the meme. Apparently China shooting missiles into Taiwan waters is just as bad as the US bombing schoolgirls or something.

It's not even between Russia and USA, the only people who see Russia as a bigger threat are Europeans. Even Americans now realize they're the baddies.

Can you give examples? Both for war crimes as well as examples of imperialism?

Oh, wow. Baited someone that argues about where Rus culture was born 1000 years ago and its relevance to modern events.

Couldn't have asked for a better example of chauvinism.