▲ 131 ▼ Tankie is when you point out imperialism and war crimes (lemmy.ml) submitted 6 months ago by merdaverse@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -7 points 6 months ago (17 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago (7 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -18 points 6 months ago (6 children) All of which 100% excuses everything they are doing today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) "everything" Then name them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -10 points 6 months ago (1 child) Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069 Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that. As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) And by everything they're doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -13 points 6 months ago 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 17 points 6 months ago (6 children) Oh, wow. Baited someone that argues about where Rus culture was born 1000 years ago and its relevance to modern events. Couldn't have asked for a better example of chauvinism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 6 months ago What? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (4 children) What does any of this have to do with chauvinism, btw? Isn’t chauvinism about sexism? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism 2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged 3: excessive or blind patriotism Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (1 child) Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny. To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) Can you give examples? Both for war crimes as well as examples of imperialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -8 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago Lol you've got nothing permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago (7 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -18 points 6 months ago (6 children) All of which 100% excuses everything they are doing today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) "everything" Then name them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -10 points 6 months ago (1 child) Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069 Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that. As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) And by everything they're doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -13 points 6 months ago 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -18 points 6 months ago (6 children) All of which 100% excuses everything they are doing today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) "everything" Then name them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -10 points 6 months ago (1 child) Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069 Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that. As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) And by everything they're doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -13 points 6 months ago 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) "everything" Then name them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -10 points 6 months ago (1 child) Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069 Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that. As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -10 points 6 months ago (1 child) Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069 Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that. As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) And by everything they're doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -13 points 6 months ago 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 17 points 6 months ago (6 children) Oh, wow. Baited someone that argues about where Rus culture was born 1000 years ago and its relevance to modern events. Couldn't have asked for a better example of chauvinism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 6 months ago What? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (4 children) What does any of this have to do with chauvinism, btw? Isn’t chauvinism about sexism? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism 2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged 3: excessive or blind patriotism Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (1 child) Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny. To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (4 children) What does any of this have to do with chauvinism, btw? Isn’t chauvinism about sexism? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism 2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged 3: excessive or blind patriotism Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (1 child) Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny. To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merdaverse@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism 2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged 3: excessive or blind patriotism Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (1 child) Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny. To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -9 points 6 months ago (1 child) Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny. To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they'd 'take' what they already were. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 child) Can you give examples? Both for war crimes as well as examples of imperialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -8 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago Lol you've got nothing permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] ephrin@sh.itjust.works -8 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago Lol you've got nothing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago Lol you've got nothing permalink fedilink source parent
