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[–] 8 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net is the author of that. We discussed it before on our !infrapolitics@slrpnk.net community.

Anyways, very good insights into the potential of well organized disaster response mutual aid.

I especially like this sentence:

A sufficiently advanced disaster preparedness and response program is indistinguishable from a revolutionary counter-power.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    To be clear, there's a bit of nuance here. It's an argument against organizing focused primarily on insurrection, and against insurrectionist tendencies. But this does propose something that could be described as a latent insurgency, which would explicitly have the capability to evolve into an Insurrection (if necessary).

    I don't remember if I made that totally clear in that specific essay.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Very interesting. One other argument for Disaster Anarchism is that disaster preparedness can be done all of the time: regardless of how good or bad things are going right now*, we can keep building these disaster response systems.

    • By going good, I dont mean perfect. I think that insurrection tends to only happen when things are going really bad.
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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Should call it neutered anarchism for liberals.

    “Don’t hurt the state, be nice and fix the state’s shortcomings so that people don’t revolt”

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    That's not what it argued. It explicitly states that revolution and conflict may need to happen as a function of disaster response.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    “An argument against insurrection”

    “May”

    Revolution has to happen to avoid disaster. It is not simply enough to passively respond in the event of disaster.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The title is a bit ambiguous. Also, the "May" is weasely on my part. But I think you raise a fair point. It is unclear how insurrection really fits into this Disaster Anarchism.

    I understood the attached article to mean that we have to focus on continuously building up our disaster response, and that will help us to continue functioning if we are cut off, partially or fully, from the dominant system. Insurrection would likely cut us off significantly from the dominant system.

    What is not clear to me is that Disaster Anarchism tells us to try to avoid focusing on insurrection as a means of change, but it does not tell us what is a good time for an insurrection. And I think that is where your point comes in.

    Personally, I think it makes more sense to think of Disaster Anarchism as occurring in parallel to, not instead of, insurrection.

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    [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    A sufficiently advanced disaster preparedness and response program is indistinguishable from a revolutionary counter-power.

    I agree.

    Also, if a society has a higher degree of autonomy and freedom (ability to function without central coordination), people will have considerably less fear of anarchist movements and experiments.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Also see !disasterresponse@slrpnk.net 👍

    But yeah, this article summarizes a lot of good ideas, and even in state-run disaster response organisations the devolution of power and hierachy is usually quite strong to avoid issues with communication breakdowns.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    This is quite apropos of what I've been trying to tell people all along:

    When it's no longer possible for the oligarchy to extract wealth from the population(because we've run out of money), they're going to shut off the water, the gas, the electricity, and the telecommunications networks. They'll start issuing leins to collect the "debt" the population "owes" and when people start to panic, they'll cry "THEY'RE GETTING VIOLENT!" and send in PMC shock troops to "secure the property".

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Exactly. Part of my thinking here was definitely influenced by Butler's "Parable of the Sower." She made pretty on point predictions about the direction of things by just observing the world. It's pretty clear where this is going, and that's exactly it.

    Like... this is already Flint. This is already Detroit. The suburban ponzi scheme is running really thin. Things are going to change really radically or this is happening in the next 10 years (and probably a lot sooner).

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    For what it's worth, this is also a bit of a draft. I'm basically writing a book in public. Feedback, including grammar, pointing out spelling and typos, or any clarifying questions, is all very welcome. I have added a section to the intro (for right now) to include acknowledgements. If you provide feedback, please let me know if you would not like to be included or if you'd like to be included in a specific way other than just your handle.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I realized you are hex, are you also Kairos? That's exciting, and I'm happy to be a part of it. "A sufficiently advanced disaster preparedness and response program is indistinguishable from a revolutionary counter-power" is a great quote that obviously pays homage to Clarke's third law, and is delightfully pithy and original.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Thanks!

    Yeah, Kairos is a project I've been working on for a bit. The goal is to turn it into a book. I think I've got the majority of the first draft done. I have one or two more sections to write, then I need to clean it up.

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