Some time ago when Discord used Surveillance Services to face scan all their users a lot of possible alternatives where thrown around.

  • It should be already hosted by someone
  • have voice chat
  • Be easy to sign up to so that i can convince people

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[–] 48 points 6 months ago (1 child)

The steam voice chat feature really improved and is very intuitive to use now. I'll frequently use that.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    We've been using steam for many years for our weekly gaming sessions. Can't remember why we stopped using discord but it was way before all the photo ID requests. I definitely don't miss discord downloading like 20 updates every week.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Look at Mumble. It's FOSS (Free Open Source Software)

    https://www.mumble.info/about/

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Mumble lacks a ton of stuff

    You're there to voice chat while gaming. It's not a support forum and it's not a wiki.

    Why 'systemd' something simple?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    You're there to voice chat while gaming.

    And while doing so, one might want to do one of the things they listed.. being able to quickly share screens is a huge part of discord for my group, we're always showing each other new games we're playing or helping each other out on games we're playing together

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, and who ever sends text to people they want to game with?!?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Fair point. My game client has a text chat for the game in question, but the voice chat isn't working under lutris because another group coded it and they cheated with the APIs.

    So we can and do use text chat from the game itself and the voice chat is the only broken bit.

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  • I've tried Fluxer but it's been a bit fiddly for me on Linux. It's okay, voice chat works, but there are bugs for me with video chatting or screen-sharing. If it starts getting fixed, I'll stick with it, otherwise I'm gonna keep looking.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    Fluxer appears to be the most promising, though it is still very new and they are working furiously to get it up to par with a tiny dev team that consists of two (three?) people. Most basic features are quite usable now, though.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Ventrilo. Hobbles away on my cane.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Element, or whatever Matrix client of choice if you prefer a different one.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    We use matrix

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    TeamSpeak or an old fashioned LAN Party

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Back in the day we used Ventrilo for voice chat.

    Stoat seems like a nice, newer alternative to Discord.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Still using Discord here. Never sent them a face photo. Can't say either way for the other people I still talk to on there.

    Prior to that I remember using TeamSpeak, which apparently still exists. Still proprietary and monolithic though, which might not be to your preference.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    Same, we are planning on ditching when stuff like facial recognition actually kicks in but we are just trying to have fun in the evenings and the ability to easily share text/images/video/streaming with a small group has a lot of inertia.

    Also one friend plays on xbox and as far as we know discord is the only one that is cross compatible.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Since you say you're planning to ditch it when that facial recognition kicks in, I'm genuinely curious: are you okay with, or unaware, that Discord is already monitoring all your activity and messages to determine your age?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I assume absolutely every single app is doing shady shit like that, and to be honest I don't really care if they are estimating my age off of what I do. I do care about showing my ID, because it has details that I don't want them to have and is a completely different thing.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not the person you asked, but honestly, if Discord wants to monitor me and my homies talking about our nerdy ass video game shit, I don't mind it at all. It's not like I'm setting up heroin deals on there (or anywhere else). Like, I give a negative amount of fucks if they know that we're gonna be hardcore raiding from 8pm to midnight on Tuesday and Thursday, with a training session for new members on Saturday morning from 7am to 10am. I could not care less if they read my chats about dungeon strategies and properly optimized endgame gear. If they want to see who won my weekly raffle for 1000 ingame gold, that's fine by me.

    It's not even like they can use my data for marketing purposes. I play exactly one video game, and I already plan to buy every expansion the game releases until I either die, or the servers shut down. And we have a very strict "no politics" rule in my server, so it's not like they're gonna catch us planning some sort of revolution. We're just some MMORPG nerds nerding out about our MMORPG.

    If they ask me to scan my face, or send them a pic of my ID, that's where I draw the line. I have never, and will never, put a picture of my face on the internet. I've never posted any pics of my kids, or my grandkids either.

    But nothing I say on Discord is "private", there are over 600 people on my server, all playing the same game. We only talk about the game, or occasionally what we had for dinner (but that's only on Foodie Fridays). If Discord knows that I made wet beef sandwiches with loaded fries for dinner, that's no sweat off my balls. I don't have conversations on there about anything that I would be afraid to shout in the Public Square.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I personally think you underestimate what they can achieve with that data, or how much money they can make off it, or what governments can do with it. However, as long as you're aware and okay with it, power to you.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I think most established accounts theyve already collected enough data to infer your age, they are only asking for identification for a subset of the population so that can verify their data or when they flag as underage.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I use a self-hosted TeamSpeak6 server with my friends. My friends use Discord without me afaik. I can't make people share my principles, but they're slowly coming around to how bad companies can be with their encroaching data hoarding.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    I use a matrix client called "Commet", but for easy sign-up, I guess it's Stoat or Fluxer.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Signal, but I don't play with randos, just people I know.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Discord is still king. People are way too invested.

    Matrix is decent for me. Voice, video, and screen share, works well. Have not had issues with small friend groups

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I use matrix with a friend, matrix calls (the one that has the option for video) drop out on their own with no warning and the ring tone is very easy to miss, I wish there was anything to do about those two problems. Other than that it's great, legacy calls seem more robust

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    We have element call now and its so much better

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    So screensharing works without issues? Is it customizable on the backend?

    And how is it better, if I may ask?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I went back to using in-game communication and social features and I can't believe we stopped doing it. It is so much more immersive to hang out in, say, a guild hall to chat with whoever happens to be online, than to be available 24/7 in an outside app.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Fluxer for me and my friend group. Signal was actually the primary plan but it doesn't work for two main reasons for us, both related to the fact that we record ttrpg sessions. Since I don't think this would affect most people, I'd also recommend Signal, though some people dislike needing a phone number to sign up.

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  • Mumble + phpBB

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    for only voicechats, mumble seemed good

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    web.fluxer.app is your best choice.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I don't do online multiplayer. If I'm playing a video game with someone, they're in the room with me and we can just talk.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Element works fine for me

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    The dust hasn't settled yet. Still waiting for options like Fluxer or Stoat to cover the basic use cases fully.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    When i play with my brother we use our phones to, get this, call each other. Obviously harder to do with more people but if its just you and a buddy your phone can be used as a phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    This is what I did years ago. No cell phone, land line. DSL still required a phone line at the time but long distance was included free. Would play Diablo 2 with someone I knew who was about 800 miles away.

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    [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm very tired so I thought you were saying discord was gone and what would I do then and I was like "well. Me and twin game from adjacent rooms so we'd open the doors and yell but husband would be annoyed" and now I understand you mean new program.

    I'd probably go back to ventrillo since I know it existed.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Discord shelved these plans due to major backlash for at least 6 months, so it's stil going to be Discord.

    The other alternatives aren't up to it yet.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Teamspeak 3, we like sticking to the older version and its nice to have not things change or look super polished and web-page like. Also Mumble, but thats only for groups that require it.

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    only used it for some testing purposes, but sharkord seemed good.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Matrix is really good i have a homeserver setup with a livekit instance using sable client and its really good. VC works really well theres a soundboard that you can customize if your willing to mess around with the element call src code (hopefully that changes at some point to be easier) screensharing does work but desktop audio doesnt tab audio does seem to work but only from chromium based browsers (i.e brave) (this can be workd arround by routing audio through your mic but is a bit of a pain hopefully it gets implimented soon. (Also sable doesnt yet have a desktop or mobile site but the web app works well in mobile browsers)

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    So all they're doing it making you a "teen' account if you don't want to verify. All that means is you can't join "mature" discords like porn and stuff like that. For gaming with friends it won't matter.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Go over to their house in person, maybe?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What do you think this is, the 90s?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    xbox party chat

    if you were on Playstation we just couldn't play

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    WhatsApp, Signal

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