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[–] 73 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

$1,000,000s of dollar worth

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Only the brightest have stayed on twitter

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    aren't "metamates" what facebook calls its employees now? if so the dissonance is real

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    The 46 carat Hope Diamond on which the fictional Heart of the Ocean is based, is estimated at $200 - $300 million today.

    The white gold and zirconia prop used in the movie cost around $8,000 but if it were real at 56 carats, it would be valued at more than twice what the Hope Diamond is. Leave it up to Hollywood to invent fictional jewelry and then assign a value it.

    Although, since the diving vessel is directly on top of where the heavy metal necklace would conceivably fall, it might not take too long to locate it on the sea floor:

    The original search area for the Titanic was about 150 square miles, and the Titanic is only about 90 feet wide. So, for every Titanic width-sized object, you would need to search about 1.32 million positions.

    If the search area for the necklace were 1/4 square mile to allow for drift, and the necklace is effectively 4 inches wide, you would only need to search about 435,000 necklace-width positions. Although, being directly over the Titanic wreck could hamper metal detecting. It would be pretty ironic if the necklace fell back on to the deck of the wreck.

    So, suck on that ya old entitled bitch!

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The white gold and zirconia prop used in the movie cost around $8,000 but if it were real at 56 carats, it would be valued at more than twice what the Hope Diamond is. Leave it up to Hollywood to invent fictional jewelry and then assign a value it.

    What does this mean? They had jewelers create a bespoke (non-diamond) necklace, but it had to be good quality because of the close-ups they wanted to do with it. As for "assigning it a value", isn't that just what people are willing to pay? $8,000 for a one-of-a-kind piece of jewelry and cinema history doesn't seem too crazy to me...

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The value of the prop used in the movie notwithstanding, a quick search suggested that a real 56 carat diamond with qualities and rarity similar to the Hope Diamond would be worth close to $600 million, but no such thing actually exists.

    So what I meant was: of course Hollywood has to come up with the ultimate jewel “worth more than the Hope Diamond”, to quote the movie.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    ... And guess which side the supermajority of boomers are on?

    Its almost like they historically and currently constitute a reliable voting block of people who consistently vote to create all these problems that are otherwise known as the class war.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You’re both right. Lots of old people are on the right but breaking us apart by generation does nothing but further divide us which only helps the Epstein Class.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago*

    Nah.

    You run political polls on groups of people for a reason: To derive rational strategies of rhetorical appeal.

    What we, as the left, should be doing, is appealing to Gen Z, rhetorically.

    ... You wanna solve the toxic masculinity problem?

    Point the anger at a better target, and temper it with actual facts, actual logic, actual statistical analysis and explanations of how this shit actually works.

    Validate Gen Z's literally correct suspicions that Boomers are insane out of touch narcissists, untill proven otherwise.

    The Boomers have demanded they be pandered to and given participation trophies, in the form of subsidies, their entire lives.

    We need to focus on 'kick anyone over 65 out of any political position, we need new blood'.

    We do not need to focus on 'well actually, Not All Boomers bad.'

    ... You wanna guess the average age of people literally confirmed to be in the Epstein class?

    You need a compelling narrative that motivates people to do things, not a nitpicking discussion panel.

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  • [–] 269 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (85 children)

    I always love it when people refer to “this ending” or “this scene” as if everyone is supposed to know what this blurry still is supposed to be from. Even if it was a video, that still doesn’t tell me what it’s from.

    Edit: to all the haters…

    Saying 'what kind of an idiot doesn't know about the Yellowstone supervolcano' is so much more boring than telling someone about the Yellowstone supervolcano for the first time.

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  • [–] 77 points 6 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    Never seen it. What happened in this scene?

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  • [–] 107 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    The framing device for the whole movie is that they're searching the wreck to find a priceless necklace, and bring along an old woman, who had it when the ship sank, to help them. She then tells them her story, moves them into abandoning the search, and in the end it's revealed she had it the whole time when she throws it overboard.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Damn, I had a feeling, it was Titanic, because of the eerie lighting, but I've never watched it, never seen this scene.

    I guess, it did narrow things down, though, that it's posted here without explanation...

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    To be fair, Titanic was pretty iconic

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Never seen it. Something about French ladies and floating door space?

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  • [–] 65 points 6 months ago* (26 children)

    Literally the most watched film of all time.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Avatar?

    I saw that a year or two after it first came out and I don't remember any of this being part of it..

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Avatar made more money per view due to 3D/IMAX - which wasn't a thing for titanic

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Still, I didn't recognize the scene or even the movie based on the pic, the description, OR your appeal to popularity, so I'm gonna have to sustain the objection to vagueposting.

    (And yes, I DID see Titanic once. Mostly meh and Leo was awful in it afair)

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Nonetheless, I would be willing to bet that only a single digit percentage of people on this planet have seen this nearly 30 year-old movie.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    And what percentage do you think is represented on Lemmy?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    128 million Americans saw it in theatres when it came out apparently (that's just Americans! And just the initial theatre release). But it's been shown on TV, streaming services, etc (and you could pirate it of course) and is accessible in pretty much every country today. There's been surveys with results like "26% of brits haven't seen Titanic", etc, but no real hard data unfortunately. But I'd wager the percentage has to be double digits. Not super high double digits, but definitely double digits.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I think the count may be skewed, unless they accounted for folks who were paying to watch it in the theater multiple times per day, multiple times per week, for its entire run. I knew several of those at the time.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago* (17 children)

    Anyone whose seen it knows where it’s from. It’s the final scene from James Cameron’s Titanic in which Rose throws the infamous jewel into the ocean.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I saw the movie and had no idea. Although it was well over twenty years ago and I was more interested in the gal I was sitting next to than the movie.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Anyone whose seen it

    See, that's where it all falls over.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    How so? It was the highest grossing film for 11 years straight, starting in 1997. Only been surpassed by Avatar 1/2 and Avengers Endgame. Pretty well known film.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Nah i've seen it atleast twice and it took me a while to have guessed titanic. Still needed the comments to confirm it. Can't remember jewel being thrown away at all

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Exactly the same as me. The film's 30 years old, and I've definitely seen it, but probably not in the last 20 years or more. I just about recognised it was Rose but haven't got a fucking scooby what she does at the end of the film. I thought it ended with her sat on the piece of wood watching Jack sink.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Watched it a couple months ago with my wife. She drops the jewel into the ocean above the wreckage, then goes back home, where we see a bunch of pictures across her dresser showing that she had an adventurous and fulfilling life, inspired by Jack's last words to her.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Man it's been over 25 years since I watched Titanic; 95% of the memory I retained of that film is boobs and the other 5% was actually Thumbtanic. I dunno how you expect anyone to instantly recall this scene from a single frame unless you were one of those hardcore fans who saw it nine times in the cinema.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    That explains it. I’ve never had any desire to see that movie, and thus I never have.

    For GenX / Xennials we grew up with a plethora of shitty ass movies not worth your time or headspace. No electronic devices, thus you’re subjected to that crap during social encounters. Multiple video rental stores in every town containing so much garbage, friends and relatives constantly naming it as the pinnacle of entertainment.

    Given choices, later, as an adult, most so called popular or romantic crap is then easily avoided. Or you just read a book on your phone instead. What I would’ve given in my teens to have a slim little book holding device no one questions in my pocket.

    Never bought the hype or music for Titanic. Thanks for ID-ing this photo.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Give it a shot it’s a good film. Considering it was filmed in 1997 the visuals still hold up pretty well and the writing is pretty good, especially by today’s standards.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    I prefer things more like Amelie for romantic comedy. And old school 5hr 90s versions of Pride & Prejudice for straight romance. Besides, now you’re telling me not only does the ship sink and romance not win out, but she drops the one bright spot, future financial security for her family, in the ocean. Why would I watch that?

    That, and I’ve never been a DiCaprio fan. Winslet is cool though.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I mean the jewel represented way more than just financial security. I would say her reasoning to dump it is pretty valid. It also means that romance absolutely won out.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    When I was a kid I thought it was dumb but kids are kinda dumb ngl

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    For people that have been there it kind of makes sense. The jewel represented the man that was her abuser. He wanted to keep her locked up in a cage. Her dumping the jewel was her catharsis that she was free. Free to make her own choices.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Lemmites try not to make cultural blindness their only personality trait challenge.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Calling someone expressing their lack of omniscience "making cultural blindness their only personality trait" is a wild leap.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    It's bloody Titanic.

    If you never heard it seen anything about it.

    You're either the perfect shut in that doesn't leave the house or interact with anyone or anything. Or lying through your teeth to make yourself look cool and hipster to random internet strangers.

    It's been talked about online, referenced in other media.

    I know the average Lemmite makes being a contrarian their only personality trait.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Or... and here me out... maybe not everyone has a photographic memory for every scene in every movie that they've ever seen going back twenty years...

    Or maybe someone just isn't a cinemaphile and doesn't watch every movie that receives hype.

    And just because you've heard people talking about a movie doesn't mean you can automatically identify every fucking still frame and synopsis point from that movie.

    You're the one being contrarian. Also, apparently according to you the average lemming has at least two "only personality trait"s. Do you know what that phrase even means? Is it your only comeback? Are you a bot, or just not very creative?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    that receives hype

    If Titanic was some low budget indy film, that would be a fair complaint.

    But when it's one of the biggest films of all time.

    Constantly referenced, in the popular zeitgeist for years. Changed movie going for years. If this was Crank 2, sure I would be perfectly ok with someone not knowing. But it's not.

    This isn't about having a photographic memory for every scene and plot point. (Although if you think you need that to remember the media you've watched. Yikes, hate to be you)

    At a certain point it changes from "I haven't watched this so I don't know" to "I am deliberately going out of my way to pretend to not know anything about this"

    That's being a contrarian, that's being culturally blind, that's trying to be a hipster and proud of it.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    If Titanic was some low budget indy film, that would be a fair complaint.

    So because it had a high budget and was produced by a big-name studio, that somehow obligates everyone on the internet to have seen it?

    Constantly referenced, in the popular zeitgeist for years. Changed movie going for years.

    In other words, hype.

    This isn't about having a photographic memory for every scene and plot point. (Although if you think you need that to remember the media you've watched. Yikes, hate to be you)

    It's about recognizing one still frame from the end of the movie, and a vague description of what happened in that scene. You're doing mental gymnastics to pretend otherwise.

    At a certain point it changes from "I haven't watched this so I don't know" to "I am deliberately going out of my way to pretend to not know anything about this"

    No, some people just haven't seen it. Or some people saw it over a decade ago and don't remember that seen. You're just being a dick because it makes you feel superior.

    That's being a contrarian, that's being culturally blind, that's trying to be a hipster and proud of it.

    You're the one being contrarian and pretentious. Nobody is obligated to understand every media reference that you dictate is so famous that everyone should know.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (6 children)

    Nobody is obligated to understand every media reference

    The very post we are talking about explains the scene and doesn't require knowledge of the film.

    If comprehending the post itself is too much? Then you are deliberately going out of your way to make yourself culturally blind, and to be a contrarian to what's popular culture.

    don't remember that seen

    It's the emotional payoff right at the end, not some random scene half way through. If you can't remember the end of a film, yikes.

    In other words, hype

    In other words you've been going out of your way to avoid it because it's popular and watching what's popular would ruin your hipster identity.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    The very post we are talking about explains the scene and doesn't require knowledge of the film.

    It gives a vague descriptor of the scene, and that absolutely does require knowledge of the film. What the fuck kind of mental hoops are you jumping through just to justify your own pretentiousness?

    If comprehending the post itself is too much? Then you are deliberately going out of your way to make yourself culturally blind, and to be a contrarian to what's popular culture.

    That's a wild fucking leap, and repeating yourself doesn't change how irrational it is.

    It's the emotional payoff right at the end, not some random scene half way through. If you can't remember the end of a film, yikes.

    It's literally the least memorable scene in that entire film, especially if someone hasn't watched it in over a decade or ever.

    In other words you've been going out of your way to avoid it because it's popular and watching what's popular would ruin your hipster identity.

    I'm not obligated to watch fucking anything, hype or no hype. And just because I don't watch a film that you're trying to dictate everyone should see, doesn't mean I'm "avoiding it so I don't ruin my hipster identity." You're fucking psychotic.

    That's also how fascists think. "Everyone should do the things that I say everyone should do, and if they don't then that's a personal failing on their part." FUCK OFF.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It gives a vague descriptor of the scene,

    Which is all that's needed to understand the post.

    Making this about the film itself just to say you've never seen the film. That's being proud of your cultural blindness

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You're being a dense idiot, and I'm done with you.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    You're the one being proud of your cultural blindness.

    Must be hell being you.

    "Hey did you check out that new show on TV?' really cool"

    "Why would you say that. Now I can never watch it because it's been tainted by 'Hype' from the lamestream. I am a free thinker that will never bow to the pressure to conform by consuming what's popular. You god dam nazi scum"

    "I forget you're like this"

    (This is of course assuming you have a job interacting with people)

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah, it's such hell not being able to remember every scene from titanic which I haven't seen in over ten years. I forgot I'm supposed to rewatch it every 5 years to keep it fresh in my mind, because how dare I forget a film that received so much hype 🙄

    "Hey did you check out that new show on TV?' really cool"

    "Why would you say that. Now I can never watch it because it's been tainted by 'Hype' from the lamestream. I am a free thinker that will never bow to the pressure to conform by consuming what's popular. You god dam nazi scum"

    "I forget you're like this"

    You're fucking delusional, dude. I don't go out of my way to avoid films just because of hype. I'm not that interested in film to begin with, and I'm not going to go out of my way to watch something just because of the hype.

    You're the one being pretentious and trying to dictate some made-up obligation that everyone needs to see something just because of the hype. Are you being paid by the film industry?

    This entire conversation has been completely unnecessary, and it only happened because you're going out of your way to be a snob. Are you just a troll? Either way, you live a sad life. Doesn't ruin my day.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Never said any of that.

    You are projecting so hard.

    I just said you shouldn't be proud of being culturally blind.

    You then got really upset and have been going on about "Hype™".

    Doesn't ruin my day.

    You sure about that? Because you seem very upset, that I don't think you're just the coolest for going out of your way to not watch anything mainstream.

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