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It's a class war.
... And guess which side the supermajority of boomers are on?
Its almost like they historically and currently constitute a reliable voting block of people who consistently vote to create all these problems that are otherwise known as the class war.
You’re both right. Lots of old people are on the right but breaking us apart by generation does nothing but further divide us which only helps the Epstein Class.
Nah.
You run political polls on groups of people for a reason: To derive rational strategies of rhetorical appeal.
What we, as the left, should be doing, is appealing to Gen Z, rhetorically.
... You wanna solve the toxic masculinity problem?
Point the anger at a better target, and temper it with actual facts, actual logic, actual statistical analysis and explanations of how this shit actually works.
Validate Gen Z's literally correct suspicions that Boomers are insane out of touch narcissists, untill proven otherwise.
The Boomers have demanded they be pandered to and given participation trophies, in the form of subsidies, their entire lives.
We need to focus on 'kick anyone over 65 out of any political position, we need new blood'.
We do not need to focus on 'well actually, Not All Boomers bad.'
... You wanna guess the average age of people literally confirmed to be in the Epstein class?
You need a compelling narrative that motivates people to do things, not a nitpicking discussion panel.
I always love it when people refer to “this ending” or “this scene” as if everyone is supposed to know what this blurry still is supposed to be from. Even if it was a video, that still doesn’t tell me what it’s from.
Edit: to all the haters…

Saying 'what kind of an idiot doesn't know about the Yellowstone supervolcano' is so much more boring than telling someone about the Yellowstone supervolcano for the first time.
Never seen it. What happened in this scene?
The framing device for the whole movie is that they're searching the wreck to find a priceless necklace, and bring along an old woman, who had it when the ship sank, to help them. She then tells them her story, moves them into abandoning the search, and in the end it's revealed she had it the whole time when she throws it overboard.
Thanks for the actual explanation without being condescending or demeaning! I appreciate it
Thanks, I actually didn't know this because I've usually fallen asleep while trying to watch that movie with someone lol
I had no idea what I was looking at, then you writing this instantly made me realize the scene.
So yeah, I think the commenter’s got a point
Damn, I had a feeling, it was Titanic, because of the eerie lighting, but I've never watched it, never seen this scene.
I guess, it did narrow things down, though, that it's posted here without explanation...
It's the ending of Spiderman 3.
Until coming to the comments, I thought it was from The Others, but that didn't fit the title.
To be fair, Titanic was pretty iconic
Never seen it. Something about French ladies and floating door space?
I tried watching it three times and fell asleep every time. I've come to the conclusion, that it is a very boring movie.
Its ok, there can be cultural references you do not immediately understand, we don't have to all have the exact same repetoire of concepts in our brains.
Literally the most watched film of all time.
I dont remember this scene from backdoor sluts 9...
Bee Movie?
Avatar?
I saw that a year or two after it first came out and I don't remember any of this being part of it..
Avatar made more money per view due to 3D/IMAX - which wasn't a thing for titanic
Nonetheless, I would be willing to bet that only a single digit percentage of people on this planet have seen this nearly 30 year-old movie.
And what percentage do you think is represented on Lemmy?
128 million Americans saw it in theatres when it came out apparently (that's just Americans! And just the initial theatre release). But it's been shown on TV, streaming services, etc (and you could pirate it of course) and is accessible in pretty much every country today. There's been surveys with results like "26% of brits haven't seen Titanic", etc, but no real hard data unfortunately. But I'd wager the percentage has to be double digits. Not super high double digits, but definitely double digits.
I mean a portion of those have certainly died within 30 years?
I think the count may be skewed, unless they accounted for folks who were paying to watch it in the theater multiple times per day, multiple times per week, for its entire run. I knew several of those at the time.
Anyone whose seen it knows where it’s from. It’s the final scene from James Cameron’s Titanic in which Rose throws the infamous jewel into the ocean.
I saw the movie and had no idea. Although it was well over twenty years ago and I was more interested in the gal I was sitting next to than the movie.
If you want a recap here's a nice summary of the important bits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZcHBY5vyI
Anyone whose seen it
See, that's where it all falls over.
How so? It was the highest grossing film for 11 years straight, starting in 1997. Only been surpassed by Avatar 1/2 and Avengers Endgame. Pretty well known film.
Nah i've seen it atleast twice and it took me a while to have guessed titanic. Still needed the comments to confirm it. Can't remember jewel being thrown away at all
Exactly the same as me. The film's 30 years old, and I've definitely seen it, but probably not in the last 20 years or more. I just about recognised it was Rose but haven't got a fucking scooby what she does at the end of the film. I thought it ended with her sat on the piece of wood watching Jack sink.
Watched it a couple months ago with my wife. She drops the jewel into the ocean above the wreckage, then goes back home, where we see a bunch of pictures across her dresser showing that she had an adventurous and fulfilling life, inspired by Jack's last words to her.
Man it's been over 25 years since I watched Titanic; 95% of the memory I retained of that film is boobs and the other 5% was actually Thumbtanic. I dunno how you expect anyone to instantly recall this scene from a single frame unless you were one of those hardcore fans who saw it nine times in the cinema.
That explains it. I’ve never had any desire to see that movie, and thus I never have.
For GenX / Xennials we grew up with a plethora of shitty ass movies not worth your time or headspace. No electronic devices, thus you’re subjected to that crap during social encounters. Multiple video rental stores in every town containing so much garbage, friends and relatives constantly naming it as the pinnacle of entertainment.
Given choices, later, as an adult, most so called popular or romantic crap is then easily avoided. Or you just read a book on your phone instead. What I would’ve given in my teens to have a slim little book holding device no one questions in my pocket.
Never bought the hype or music for Titanic. Thanks for ID-ing this photo.
Give it a shot it’s a good film. Considering it was filmed in 1997 the visuals still hold up pretty well and the writing is pretty good, especially by today’s standards.
I prefer things more like Amelie for romantic comedy. And old school 5hr 90s versions of Pride & Prejudice for straight romance. Besides, now you’re telling me not only does the ship sink and romance not win out, but she drops the one bright spot, future financial security for her family, in the ocean. Why would I watch that?
That, and I’ve never been a DiCaprio fan. Winslet is cool though.
I mean the jewel represented way more than just financial security. I would say her reasoning to dump it is pretty valid. It also means that romance absolutely won out.
When I was a kid I thought it was dumb but kids are kinda dumb ngl
Lemmites try not to make cultural blindness their only personality trait challenge.
Calling someone expressing their lack of omniscience "making cultural blindness their only personality trait" is a wild leap.
It's bloody Titanic.
If you never heard it seen anything about it.
You're either the perfect shut in that doesn't leave the house or interact with anyone or anything. Or lying through your teeth to make yourself look cool and hipster to random internet strangers.
It's been talked about online, referenced in other media.
I know the average Lemmite makes being a contrarian their only personality trait.
Or... and here me out... maybe not everyone has a photographic memory for every scene in every movie that they've ever seen going back twenty years...
Or maybe someone just isn't a cinemaphile and doesn't watch every movie that receives hype.
And just because you've heard people talking about a movie doesn't mean you can automatically identify every fucking still frame and synopsis point from that movie.
You're the one being contrarian. Also, apparently according to you the average lemming has at least two "only personality trait"s. Do you know what that phrase even means? Is it your only comeback? Are you a bot, or just not very creative?
that receives hype
If Titanic was some low budget indy film, that would be a fair complaint.
But when it's one of the biggest films of all time.
Constantly referenced, in the popular zeitgeist for years. Changed movie going for years. If this was Crank 2, sure I would be perfectly ok with someone not knowing. But it's not.
This isn't about having a photographic memory for every scene and plot point. (Although if you think you need that to remember the media you've watched. Yikes, hate to be you)
At a certain point it changes from "I haven't watched this so I don't know" to "I am deliberately going out of my way to pretend to not know anything about this"
That's being a contrarian, that's being culturally blind, that's trying to be a hipster and proud of it.
If Titanic was some low budget indy film, that would be a fair complaint.
So because it had a high budget and was produced by a big-name studio, that somehow obligates everyone on the internet to have seen it?
Constantly referenced, in the popular zeitgeist for years. Changed movie going for years.
In other words, hype.
This isn't about having a photographic memory for every scene and plot point. (Although if you think you need that to remember the media you've watched. Yikes, hate to be you)
It's about recognizing one still frame from the end of the movie, and a vague description of what happened in that scene. You're doing mental gymnastics to pretend otherwise.
At a certain point it changes from "I haven't watched this so I don't know" to "I am deliberately going out of my way to pretend to not know anything about this"
No, some people just haven't seen it. Or some people saw it over a decade ago and don't remember that seen. You're just being a dick because it makes you feel superior.
That's being a contrarian, that's being culturally blind, that's trying to be a hipster and proud of it.
You're the one being contrarian and pretentious. Nobody is obligated to understand every media reference that you dictate is so famous that everyone should know.
Nobody is obligated to understand every media reference
The very post we are talking about explains the scene and doesn't require knowledge of the film.
If comprehending the post itself is too much? Then you are deliberately going out of your way to make yourself culturally blind, and to be a contrarian to what's popular culture.
don't remember that seen
It's the emotional payoff right at the end, not some random scene half way through. If you can't remember the end of a film, yikes.
In other words, hype
In other words you've been going out of your way to avoid it because it's popular and watching what's popular would ruin your hipster identity.
The very post we are talking about explains the scene and doesn't require knowledge of the film.
It gives a vague descriptor of the scene, and that absolutely does require knowledge of the film. What the fuck kind of mental hoops are you jumping through just to justify your own pretentiousness?
If comprehending the post itself is too much? Then you are deliberately going out of your way to make yourself culturally blind, and to be a contrarian to what's popular culture.
That's a wild fucking leap, and repeating yourself doesn't change how irrational it is.
It's the emotional payoff right at the end, not some random scene half way through. If you can't remember the end of a film, yikes.
It's literally the least memorable scene in that entire film, especially if someone hasn't watched it in over a decade or ever.
In other words you've been going out of your way to avoid it because it's popular and watching what's popular would ruin your hipster identity.
I'm not obligated to watch fucking anything, hype or no hype. And just because I don't watch a film that you're trying to dictate everyone should see, doesn't mean I'm "avoiding it so I don't ruin my hipster identity." You're fucking psychotic.
That's also how fascists think. "Everyone should do the things that I say everyone should do, and if they don't then that's a personal failing on their part." FUCK OFF.
It gives a vague descriptor of the scene,
Which is all that's needed to understand the post.
Making this about the film itself just to say you've never seen the film. That's being proud of your cultural blindness
You're being a dense idiot, and I'm done with you.
You're the one being proud of your cultural blindness.
Must be hell being you.
"Hey did you check out that new show on TV?' really cool"
"Why would you say that. Now I can never watch it because it's been tainted by 'Hype' from the lamestream. I am a free thinker that will never bow to the pressure to conform by consuming what's popular. You god dam nazi scum"
"I forget you're like this"
(This is of course assuming you have a job interacting with people)
Oh yeah, it's such hell not being able to remember every scene from titanic which I haven't seen in over ten years. I forgot I'm supposed to rewatch it every 5 years to keep it fresh in my mind, because how dare I forget a film that received so much hype 🙄
"Hey did you check out that new show on TV?' really cool"
"Why would you say that. Now I can never watch it because it's been tainted by 'Hype' from the lamestream. I am a free thinker that will never bow to the pressure to conform by consuming what's popular. You god dam nazi scum"
"I forget you're like this"
You're fucking delusional, dude. I don't go out of my way to avoid films just because of hype. I'm not that interested in film to begin with, and I'm not going to go out of my way to watch something just because of the hype.
You're the one being pretentious and trying to dictate some made-up obligation that everyone needs to see something just because of the hype. Are you being paid by the film industry?
This entire conversation has been completely unnecessary, and it only happened because you're going out of your way to be a snob. Are you just a troll? Either way, you live a sad life. Doesn't ruin my day.
Never said any of that.
You are projecting so hard.
I just said you shouldn't be proud of being culturally blind.
You then got really upset and have been going on about "Hype™".
Doesn't ruin my day.
You sure about that? Because you seem very upset, that I don't think you're just the coolest for going out of your way to not watch anything mainstream.
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