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[–] 47 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

All those Dems who dogged him, still all showed up at his Inauguration anyway, to bask in his success.

I've hated Schmuck and Gillibrand ever since I read about how they colluded to kick Al Franken out of the Senate. I will never forgive either one of those backstabbing bitches. I can't wait for AOC to primary one of them, hopefully Schumer.

The Case of Al Franken

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That 2019 article is wild to read with the state of everything in 2026.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    It is likely that Franken would have won the 2020 election, and we wouldn't have had to deal with Biden or the resurrection of MAGA. He would have been a great president. Schumer and Gillibrand's betrayal of their own colleague had severe long-term effects. I hate them both, so so much.

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  • [–] 234 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I'm pretty sure the account democrats deliver is not owned by the DNC and pretending it really was instead is vert silly and misplaced manufactured rage

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  • [–] 134 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    It's twitter, nobody on there has critical thinking skills.

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  • [+] 87 points 6 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Borough Democrats supported him from the jump.

    Rag on the corpos all you want but understand local Dems are a thing and somewhere they’re the same thing.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    It doesn't matter!

    Both sides are the same!

    We have to sit out every election until the workers rise up and bring about the Revolution!

    So what if people die without health care? That's a small price to pay!

    /s

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The literal title of this post: vote for people who want to help

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    , not those who want to line their pockets


    In this case it's saying not to vote for Schumer or Gillibrand in the generals, if they survive a primary.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    Agreed, if you can live with a genocide in someone else's country and have to vote for the lesser evil, I can live with your country turning fascist, losing influence and being discarded by your own vassal states.

    Anything for greater good by choosing lesser evil, right?

    The breaking down of US hegemony is far more beneficial to everyone overall than you losing healthcare.

    Bet, now you suddenly think that's non-empathetic, huh bud?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Let me raise you from your ignorance.

    You may have heard of a man named Frederick Douglas. He had been a slave, escaped to freedom, and worked tirelessly in the cause of abolition.

    In the 1860 election Douglas had to choose which candidate he would support. Abe Lincoln had said that keeping the Union together was his top priority and that he'd let the South keep their slaves if it meant they'd stay. Another candidate was strongly for abolition.

    Douglas, who knew exactly how terrible the lives of the slaves were, decided that the smart thing to do was to support Lincoln.

    Douglas wanted abolition, but knew that Lincoln's abolitionist opponent was almost certain to lose the election.

    Douglas made a strategic decision to support Lincoln in hopes that he'd be able to influence Lincoln later on.

    Also, I think it's hilarious that you think that American democracy breaking down is going to be a good thing.

    Putin's version of Russia is as bad the old USSR in terms of messing with other countries.

    The US arsenal isn't going to disappear overnight, and will more likely be deployed when we lose soft power.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    Also don’t disregard local elections or people who are pushing quality of life improvements that may not seem like a huge deal.

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  • [–] 69 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I know this is a crazy thought but.. maybe a random "DemzDeliver" account doesn't speak for the entire party. Maybe this stupid ass two party system the US refuses to get rid of causes all kinds of different people to be a part of each one.

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  • It speaks well for the leadership and big names in the party though because they threw Zohran under the proverbial bus not only not endorsing him, but some endorsed Cuomo while not trying to talk him down out of running potentially splitting the vote. Fortunately it did not but in that instance the Democrat leadership would rather have let Republicans win than an avowed socialist who is making change.

    For all the saying of not letting perfection get in the way of good, a lot of Dems and neo-liberals seem mad by it or try to say they were behind him.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    Neither does random accounts spewing pro Chinese or Russian statements, but they never get the "they don't speak for <>" treatment.

    According to them, anyone even saying something good are directly tied to Kremlin, FSB, CCP and 5 cent army. But there's caution when its propaganda from their side. Yaayy

    Yankistanis love using these scare tactics until it comes to bite them.

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  • [–] 83 points 6 months ago* (39 children)

    The DNC chair said we need candidate like Mamdani both in policy and charisma almost immediately after Mamdani won his primary...

    And the only reason he waited that long. Is he won't put his finger on the scale of any primary

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-voters-and-lessons-democrats-can-learn-from-mamdani

    Schumer and other neoliberals don't like Mamdani, but neoliberals lost the DNC and won't hang onto their leadership positions unless they get people to turn their nose up during Dem primaries.

    Thats why voting in Dem primaries is more important than ever.

    Listening to billionaire owned media about when the DNC is on our side, is like selling gold because you keep seeing "cash for gold" places...

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (21 children)

    he won’t put his finger on the scale of any primary

    My brother, I have an amazing deal on a bridge if you'd just jump into my DMs really quick.

    Thats why voting in Dem primaries is more important than ever.

    If you see a candidate worth voting for then you should vote for them. But never forget that NYC has some of the most byzantine and restrictive voting laws in the country. Worse than Florida. Worse than Texas.

    So save the finger-waging at The Voters and reconsider how much Wall Street machine politics keeps a stranglehold on the statewide offices, such that guys like Mamdani are far more the exception than the rule.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah! Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses to not bother!

    Apathy is the biggest factor in disenfranchisement, much as we'd all like to blame "the establishment" for lack of participation.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses

    Disenfranchisement is public policy, so people are prohibited from casting their votes.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    And Lemmy users are voluntarily consenting to become disenfranchised. They're doing the billionaires' work for them.

    They're voluntarily agreeing to stay home on election day, let Trump win, and kill the Palestinian protest movement by giving people new problems to worry about.

    If it weren't for these non voters, Kamala would have won and we'd currently be forcing her to divest from Israel. But instead we have Trump bombing Iran on Netanyahu's orders and we have to do No Kings instead of No Israel. We're stretched too thin because of these guys.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    And Lemmy users are voluntarily consenting to become disenfranchised.

    That's just victim blaming.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    At this point I'm not ruling out that Ken Martin has a lemmy account. That account only ever shows up to stan for him.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    You have to wonder how many accounts are people trying to drive disengagement with the process as well, then. Cause there's a hell of a lot more "dont bother participating cause we're all doomed" commenters than those sucking off the DNC.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    It's possible. Stanning for DNC leadership seems weirder to me than being blackpilled about democratic participation, though. I don't agree with either position, but being jaded is at least understandable to me.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    And you don't think that's a problem? That you identify more with people who'd rather do nothing and let everything burn down around you out of spite than do literally anything to help?

    It's not even like they're saying "This person is the greatest person who ever existed and should lead the world!" They're just saying "This guy isn't as bad as you make him out to be, maybe give the process a chance instead of giving up entirely".

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Don't put words in my mouth. Being jaded is understandable because of the extremely obvious flaws in our democracy and the negligible correlation between what voters want and what they get, and being dismissive of the DNC leadership is equally understandable given the canyon between them and their voters on Israel, money in politics, and the relationship between workers and capital.

    I never said burn it all down, and explicitly said I disagree with the blackpilled. Your representation of what I said is so dishonest I'm wondering if you're an alt account.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    I find irrational hope and irrational despair equally easy to understand, but I'm always gonna side with irrational hope over irrational despair.

    What I don't understand is thinking that irrational hope is a billionaire ploy but irrational despair isn't. Have you seen the world in the last 6 years? The billionaires love despair and hate hope.

    I'm on the Wachowskis' side with thinking that love and hope are inherently revolutionary. All of their movies are about people who believe in hope overthrowing the ruling class. The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Speed Racer...

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I find it amusing that dbzer0 is all "Don't advocate for electoralism (which we define as voting at all) here, you have the rest of Lemmy to do that" when the ratio is so unbalanced.

    Are there even ANY pro-voting instances?

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Finding out the DNC has an unpaid intern working the Lemmy beat would be so fucking funny.

    That the account moderates "A Boring Dystopia" carries levels of irony my mind can barely even grasp.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t believe it because while the Dems are terrible at social media they’d never waste money on Lemmy

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    That's the cool thing about unpaid interns...

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    We're talking about capitalists, here. They understand opportunity costs are losses.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I do not believe any political party will ever be on my side.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    They could be, but not with a two party system. We need proportional representation so smaller parties can actually exist in government.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t think a group of more than about 20 people could be on my side. Though I’ve been kicked out of groups smaller than that so maybe not even then.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like you need to start a militia and go doom-prep in the woods, then. The political process just isn't right for you.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So support people instead. Just because those parties are full of people doesn't mean you have to go all in if you support a few of them.

    The process is what we have, and we're not going to make it better by refusing to participate in it. At best we'd make things worse and it collapses... and it gets a lot worse. Then maybe we can replace it with something better. If someone worse doesn't get there first.

    Don't let perfect be the enemy of good-enough-for-now, especially if it means millions are going to suffer for the inaction.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    That's what an independent is. When I registered to vote 50 years ago this year, I declined to register with a party, and I still haven't. I despise both parties, I think they are both anti-Democracy, but I'll never vote MAGA, and probably not even Republican, until they sincerely reform, and apologize.

    That doesn't mean I'm a Democrat, I hate them nearly as much. I support individual people whom I trust, like AOC and Max Frost. Sometimes it goes awry - I was a supporter of Eric Swallwell, until it turned out he was serial rapist, but at least I'm not blindly following an entire party of people like him.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Even Schumer endorsed Mamdani during the election, over that fuckin buffoon Third Party Cuomo.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Schumer never endorsed Mamdani.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You might be right, it looks like it was Hakeem Jeffries who announced support as early voting happened. Schumer just ignored the question everytime he was asked.

    I could swear I saw a speech from him about supporting the DNC even if it didn't name Mamdani specifically, but I'm having trouble finding that now.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's wild how revisionist you centrist types get whenever you're proven wrong.

    Just keep supporting every liberatory movement only after it succeeds and expect everyone to forget you were against it when it could've actually benefitted from your support. You must also be gaslighting yourselves, because otherwise you'd have enough shame to admit you were wrong.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, I totally doubled down and refused any fault just now. That's exactly what happened. Good job, detective. /s

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's about what you managed to convince yourself. The reason you can't find that speech from Schumer endorsing Mamdani is because it doesn't exist. You hallucinated it to preserve your ego after Mamdani's victory shook your worldview.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    Well, you are excusing yourself from posting a clear falsehood and misinformation. You can delete that shit you know right? How many times have you posted that BS somewhere else and it wasn't challenged?

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I think a better message here is "Democrats can deliver." Socialists can enter the party and make positive change. In 2026, a lot of people have decided that's not true, but there's the proof it can be done.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The way that happens is not voting for the conservative democrats.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Well this is a dumb take (since it would quite literally prevent the "that" you want from happening). The way it happens is voting for whatever Democrat you can, and actively participating in the primary race so that you get the Democrat you want.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)
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    Nah, I love the DNC. I love taxing the rich. I love everyone getting food and healthcare. I love protecting the environment. I love continued democracy.

    Fuck the GOP. Every GOP out at all costs.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I love taxing the rich. I love everyone getting food and healthcare

    Are you perhaps confusing the US with another country? I thought you were listing things you like about the DNC? Because those things don’t exist in the US. If we’re listing stuff we just like, I like a million dollars and high speed rail, but the DNC hasn’t given me either.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago*

    Those things exist in lower amounts than some European countries because the DNC have held 48 or less senate seats for over 13 years, have never held a supermajority without caucus, and never held a SCOTUS majority. It is how the DNC vote, and it is their platform.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn’t vote for a republican even for a dog shit picker upper position!

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    We want Zohran Mamdani to succeed based on merit and real results, not promotoinal messaging.

    Zohran Mamdani’s housing claims don’t show anything new. Forcing landlords to fix violations is standard enforcement under existing housing codes in NYC, Baltimore, DC, etc. That’s baseline gov work, not innovation.

    The numbers sound big, but there’s no context. Over what time period? Compared to what baseline? Without that, it reads more like a press releaase than a real policy win.

    Also, this is coming from a PAC aligned acct, so of course it’s framed to look strong. That doesn’t make it false, but it does mean it’s selecctive.

    Bottom line: this looks like routine code enforcement being repackaged as something special.

    2nd bottom line: come on Zohran do something meaningful, we're counting on you.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I think you're missing the point. He hasn't been in office long, and he's getting shit done that other mayors dragged their feet on. The first and last ones seem to be the only ones that weren't worked on in other admins.

    According to his website:

    • Intervened in the bankruptcy case involving a portfolio of buildings owned by Pinnacle Group, securing a $30 million investment and a commitment to complete repairs within six months.
    • Reached a $2.1 million settlement with A&E Real Estate to correct more than 4,000 violations across 14 buildings.
    • Won a historic $2.1 court judgment against landlord Seth Miller under the city’s Nuisance Abatement Law, with additional $1,000 daily penalties for ongoing violations.
    • Conducted on-the-ground outreach to tenants in rent-stabilized apartment buildings in East Harlem to support organizing efforts and ensure tenants understand their rights.

    https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/04/mayor-mamdani-takes-on-the-housing-crisis--cracks-down-on-bad-la

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I respectfully dissent, thats more press release repackaging.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Can we just be happy the guy's doing something? I'm so despondent from the mediocrity of the average politician, and seeing Zohran get shit done is a relief for me

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  • [+] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I typically line my pockets with denim, or corduroy.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Proof that voting in local elections matter. I constantly hear from the "BoTh SiDeS" group that down ballot voting doesn't matter and primaries don't exists.

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    1500 upvoted and in happily part of the 34 downvotes.

    I hate these "witty reply" posts. You just know it's the replyguy who took the screenshot.

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