No. Voter roll meaning number of registered voters, not votes cast and counted.

Well this is a dumb take (since it would quite literally prevent the "that" you want from happening). The way it happens is voting for whatever Democrat you can, and actively participating in the primary race so that you get the Democrat you want.

I love that even two leftists together can't come up with the idea of fixing the car themselves. Maybe bc on a subconscious level they know they're not capable 😂

Apparently it's against the rules 😮

I wonder if mods see the irony of their other rule against any type of prejudice.

Cool analogy, bro.

Even in your scenario, the car is broken because you haven't been doing the proper maintenance, and you'll never afford that other car because you're currently working for a different kind of currency than what's accepted where you live.

But I do accept you'd rather do business with the scrap metal dealer and leave yourself with no mode of transportation than fix your fucking car.

Lol, what's left to attack? I'll leave you to your shadowboxing and delusions of persecution.

You’re on, what, straw man number four now?

You’ve spent this entire exchange inventing dumber versions of my argument because the real one is too hard for you.

My point remains that in the US winner-take-all two-party system, the leftists whose whole strategy is shitting on everyone to their right are not building power. They are helping the right. That’s why the people actually winning like Rehmet, and even Mamdani, are doing coalition politics, not purity-addled self-harm.

If you still need that distorted into “you hate everyone left of Netanyahu” to reply, that’s more a confession than a response.

This is another dodge.

I did not say progressives are centrists. I said Rehmet won as a progressive Democrat, inside the party, which is evidence for improving the party from within.

It is certainly not evidence that Democrats should stop pushing back against a left that attacks basically everyone to the right of dem-socs.

Even Mamdani undercuts your point.

He’s an actual dem-soc, but even he has tried to build a broad coalition, not just declare war on everyone to his right (despite getting called a bootlicker for his approach). He got support from progressives within the party and, after proving himself electable, eventually some more mainstream Democrats endorsed him too. And I hope he stays popular and his policies work, so support for progressive policies grows from there.

But Mamdani's process highlights exactly my issue with leftists who attack everything to the right of dem-socs. Mamdani is doing politics - even going so far to have friendly meetings/calls with Trump. Too many other leftists would rather practice the type of purity politics that only shrinks their ability to influence reality, then complain that dems are the ones who need to "do something."

With friends like these...

You’re collapsing progressives and leftists and just making my policy positions up in your head because otherwise your point falls apart.

A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.” It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don't need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.

Also, if you have to rewrite my position as “I support genocide and hate everything that tries to upend the status quo” to answer me, you’re not rebutting me. You’re constructing a straw man.

I would take it as another indicator that the winning group is the one that lobbies, organizes, and applies pressure better. Israel has been at it for decades, but I've only seen skepticism of US support for it gaining ground domestically since ~2019. The pressure is on generation-bridge democrats like AOC to move the DNC on the issue, and it's because pressure is on them from constituents who are organizing, fundraising and lobbying.

I think taking it as an indicator to split the most Israel-skeptical voters into two camps, in a system that generally operates with FPTP voting, would lead to taking steps likely to worsen the situation.

😂 Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war because Dems didn't provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate, then trying to say they should be winning more elections if they want support. Hysterical.

They did just in just the last 12 months expand a liberal supreme court majority in WI, have the first statewide wins in GA against incumbent republicans since 2006, flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41, and flip the FL state house district where Mar a Lago is.

But leftists: