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[–] 27 points 7 months ago

She's trying to sell another book.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (18 children)
  • [+] -15 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    If this post can’t survive on a leftist echo chamber like lemmy without getting ratio’d then how are leftist supposed to do better than democrats?

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I don't think leftists are supposed to get a say. It sure seems like that candidacy was railroaded. I assume it'll keep happening until infighting stops. I'd rather see an election where the Harris's of the world are considered conservative candidates.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    We have two right wing parties in the US, I fully agree.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well--they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Interesting… so that is why leftists consistently lose elections.

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  • [+] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    All in blue states and still a very small number relative to the democrats that can win outside of blue states.

    In other words they can’t win a nation wide election.

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  • [+] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I like how you ignore the part where those progressives are only popular in blue states. You can’t win nationwide elections with only blue states.

    Or are you trying to move the goalpost by pretending we aren’t talking about nation wide elections?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Your party has lost 2 elections to a carnival barker. It's time to sit down

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections since the 90s.

    Trump lost by a larger amount in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.

    If right wingers followed the leftist playbook of not voting Trump would’ve lost in 2024 too.

    Leftists are the smallest demographic of voters in a democracy.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Your only concern is winning the election and not for advancing workers rights. Obtaining power then doing nothing with it is a lost election.

    Leftists are the smallest demographic of voters in a democracy.

    Yet liberals always come begging for our support, we are Schrodinger's leftist, too small to matter and needed to win elections.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago

    Your only concern is winning the election and not for advancing workers rights.

    You can’t advance workers rights without winning elections first

    Obtaining power then doing nothing with it is a lost election

    Blaming the Democratic Party for the actions of the few that vote against their Democratic party is disingenuous.

    Politicians can run as democrats when they aren’t.

    Special interest groups can threaten, bribe or blackmail just enough to block legislation they don’t want. Then you scape goat the party that they voted against. It doesn’t make sense.

    Yet liberals always come begging for our support

    Anyone trying to win will reach out to anybody that can vote and try to win them over. This is how we know leftist aren’t trying to win or maybe don’t realize they are losing/unpopular because their own behavior.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    The days of progressives holding their nose to vote are over, we've been very clear about that

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    All these Israeli backed politicians need to be arrested for treason and have their assets siezed. Make traitors afraid again!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Hell no, KH needs to go!

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  • [+] -4 points 7 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] [S] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Someone has to hold Democrats accountable, liberals sure as fuck dont. If they did someone like Trump would have never risen to power.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    How did that work out last time? As long as there is an electoral college then you can’t hold people accountable.

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  • [+] -21 points 7 months ago* (35 children)

    She did way better than any leftists would’ve done. Just look at nations wide election results or the ratio of leftist candidates and voters compared to other ideologies.

    But it is still true that if leftists don’t vote for the left most candidate that the government will slide right. That’s just how democracies work.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    The Overton Window shift rightward has been in Democratic platform and rhetoric, but sure punch left.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (20 children)

    Voters arent voting for leftists candidates nation wide. That’s a fact, it isn’t “punching left”.

    For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.

    For some reason, liberals both want leftist votes and don't want to cater to leftist voters. Pick a lane, either liberals need the left or not.

    Anyway, it sure seems like liberals hate the right, but clearly not enough to compromise with the left over compromising with the right.

    Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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  • [+] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Dems want leftists to accept reality, which is that leftists have a lot of work to do before their policies can pass, and that their current "strategy" works against them, since they're attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.

    their current "strategy" works against them, since they're attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.

    the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.

    Yeah, y'know when you've tried to fix your car like 30 times, and you're staring down another $2k repair on a car worth half that... at some point I would start throwing duct tape on the thing and scrap it when I can hopefully get a better car. You want me to pretend it's the only car in the world worth keeping, but I'm telling you it's scrap metal.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Cool analogy, bro.

    Even in your scenario, the car is broken because you haven't been doing the proper maintenance, and you'll never afford that other car because you're currently working for a different kind of currency than what's accepted where you live.

    But I do accept you'd rather do business with the scrap metal dealer and leave yourself with no mode of transportation than fix your fucking car.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The car mechanic you are advocating for is corrupt as fuck. Does bandaid quality work then breaks something else so you have to come back for future repairs.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    If leftists are the smallest voting demographic then why don’t they try to appeal to centrists like democrats do?

    It seems like leftists do this to lose on purpose so they can just keep complaining without changing anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Why does a voting demographic not appeal to centrists??? Do you know what a demographic is??

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Yep, and leftists are the smallest with the least amount of voting power.

    If they want to get leftist legislation passed without compromise they have to win over voters until they have enough numbers. Until they do that they have two options:

    1. Lose
    2. compromise for a win

    Attacking the democrats that give leftist a platform is a bad look and one of the many reason leftists are such a small unpopular demographic.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    So how does a demographic get together to make decisions in order to win over voters? They're presented with two options, and have to choose, what should the deliberation process and decision making look like for a demographic? Is it different for the age 18-25, black, academic, leftist demographic?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I’m sorry I can’t understand it for you…

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    the leftist demographic is faced with a choice
    no I will not elaborate on how an entire demographic makes a choice

    just admit you used demographic wrong my guy it's not that bad. I was actually trying to build to a larger point about you confusing base and superstructure but that probably won't make much sense to you because I'm gonna guess you haven't read much about political theory but whatever you got your cute clapback

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  • [+] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)
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    He would never win a nation wide election. Pretending otherwise is pure copium.

    Go visit some red states or rural areas of blue states and see how popular Bernie is.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve lived in a red state all my life, Bernie was never popular among conservatives. They openly talking about killing him for being a socialist. You’re lying

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Democrats are right wing and do nothing to earn our vote. But they were fighting tooth and nail to get the republican vote.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    They fight to get enough votes to win.

    There are no political parties with enough voters to win without winning over voters from outside their group.

    Leftists are the smallest voting demographic. If they don’t start taking notes from democrats they will never win a nationwide election.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Take notes from neoliberals that are owned by lobbyists, bankers and CEOs that work against the working class? That's gonna be a hard pass, if that's what you call winning you can keep it.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Exactly… for example Fetterman, Sinema, Manchin… I’m starting to see a pattern here

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That pattern is called a rotating villain which the DNC has utilized for decades to give the impression they are trying if it wasnt for those meddling politicians within their own party.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Nope, that’s just lobbyist doing what they do. They can do it to any candidate even progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.

    This will not change until Citizens United is undone. If leftists don’t factor this into their strategy then they will continue to lose nation wide.

    There are so many ways the billionaire class can influence politicians: blackmail, bribery, threats and there will always be people trying to influence politicians. Pretending this is something the Democratic Party is colluding to is disingenuous.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    There were 10 years of Democrats occupying the White House where they could have tried to overturn citizens united, there has not been a single attempt. Democrats do not want to overturn citizens united because they benefit so much from it

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    [–] -1 points 7 months ago

    Binary choice.

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