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I'm looking to learn a new language without relying on data harvesting apps. Is there a privacy friendly platform I can use, or a FOSS app (android)?

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[–] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Anki is an offline-first flashcard program that I use along with other methods.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I will look into this, thanks for taking the time to make a recommendation :)

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  • Anki + Yomitan is the goat. Download some dictionaries of your target language, load them into Yomitan, and now you can search words on any website with selectable text and instantly make a flashcard out of the word. Watching a video in browser? Use asbplayer to load subtitles onto the video/movie and select the text from that too. Wanna watch not in browser? Use mpvacious with mpv.

    Find yourself a card format you like and some cute addons (I use Ankimon [Pokemon]) for Anki so you don't fall into that "it looks so dull!" trap because the SRS system it uses is no joke. I have years old vocab on there that I still remember, and medical students aren't joking when they say it saved them.

    I just love this app so much.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago
    • Pimsleur language learning ( learn at instinct-level, not the prompted-stuff or memorizations that many other language trainings work at )
    • Tandem app ( probably not great for privacy, been awhile since I tried it ), you help someone learn your language, & they help you learn the target language one you want
    • simplified short-stories, books of collections of the things..
    • TV in the target-language
    • songs because they wire-up your other-hemisphere ( right-hemisphere for the 85% of people who have language in the left ) with the language, & that reinforces the language's patterning
    • flashcards for the stuff that actually requires you to remember specific arbitrary things, like difficult words, or whatever, for random moments throughout the day

    Some of this I got from a book by a guy who knew .. 29 or something? .. languages & worked for the CIA.

    Other stuff ( songs ) from science news, & my discovering that language-destroyed-by-stroke people could sometimes still communicate through picking a song which had the idea they were trying to communicate..

    I have a bad time learning anything through hearing, though, so .. language-learning seems itself to be kinda broken ( I learned English before anything, & it was my 2nd wave of braindamage which took much learning from my life, not the autism 1st-wave ).

    These are the best tools I know-of.

    I wish I could learn languages.

    I wish everybody learned other-languages, to understand just how diverse humankind's meanings can be..

    _ /\ _

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The fastest way to learn a language is with the comprehensible input method. You watch videos, all of which are 100% in the target language. The early videos are easy, involving simple things, and using props and gestures to provide the context for understanding. As you learn more, the videos progress and become more difficult. It's amazing how quickly you pick up things and retain them. There is a lot of comprehensible input material for Spanish, French, and English, but you can use children's television shows like Peppa Pig where there isn't specific material for the target language. Here is a beginner video in Spanish.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Date a native speaker of that language for a while.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    A book you get from your local library.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    You can try Language Transfer

    It’s completely free. Free (and ad free) iOS or android app, free audio file downloads. There’s also a course on music theory.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Find a local special interest group that gets together to practice. Check meetup.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    That, or enroll into some local class, if you live nearby some campus check if there aren't students offering private tutoring for their own native language.

    Also, if you already speak French, get an Assimil book for whatever language you want to learn. The older the edition the better (pre-80s) but even the more recent ones remain a good self-learning method, they're just not as great as the older editions which were really great. Those books can be purchased (with or without accompanying audio recordings, highly recommended) or they can be had for much cheaper on the used market (also, most people have no idea how much better the older editions are so they can be found for even cheaper but the audio files (LPs) will often not be available). These books are 100% privacy-respecting: you're alone without any tracking happening, there is no 'login' required either. Just you and your book (plus the audio files, if you want them)

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    A book with CDs to listen to.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Try to decide what your threat model is. A language learning app (except harvesting traditional device id and such) doesn't reveal very important info to anyone.

    The only know which language you learn and your approximate level. Sure that's better if there's a more private way of doing it, but the core principle of learning a language doesn't reveal very much.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You can also try to find some kids shows in the language you're interested in. I'm sure sesame street has been dubbed into many languages by now.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I have a suggestion that is not FOSS, but it is privately held so the pressure to be profitable each quarter is not at all the same as publicly held companies.

    Check out the privacy policies of LingQ and Rosetta Stone. Idk if they’re good, but I know they’re the most efficient language-learning apps right now. They require the least amount of minutes using them to achieve the highest scores in standardized language tests.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    They require the least amount of minutes using them to achieve the highest scores in standardized language tests.

    What's the source of this info?

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    Thanks! If I'm reading that second link correctly, they rank "Babbel" with a higher score than LingQ and Rosetta Stone?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    fmhy.net should have resources

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    If you want to learn Japanese, I can highly recommend KanaDojo.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Buy a book and learn with a compiler that was built before the spy craze.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Babel mini app in delta chat ;p

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    📖+✏️🗒️+👂+👄

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah honestly, there's no replacement for textbooks, paper and pencil when it comes to learning a new language

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago*

    I mean, to each their own, but when I was learning Japanese, I did just that: I immersed myself into the language with as many senses (?) as possible. Reading, writing, listening, imitating (called "shadowing"), literally talking to myself, plastering my walls with glossary and example sentences, forcing myself to read them out loud every time I would pass by one of the words or sentences hanging from my walls. Right until I realized that I had hit a barrier that could only be overcome by moving - at least temporarily - to Japan, which I did, but that's another story.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Anki with deck cards already made, for vocabulary. Youtube video to train sentences (type : easy + name of the language)

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