Earlier today, we hosted our Framework [Next Gen] Event, where we announced Framework Laptop 13 Pro, updates to Framework Laptop 16, and previews of the OCuLink Dev Kit and the Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard. You can watch a recording of the full event livestream on the Framework YouTube channel. Six years into our existence as a company, these new products represent a step change in our capabilities. We have the scale and resources to build the products you want from us and to deliver on our mission of remaking consumer electronics. Each one of the updates is in response to the asks you’ve made of us over the years.

First, Framework Laptop 13 Pro is a complete ground up redesign that brings a massive leap in battery life with Intel’s Core Ultra Series 3 Processors, a 74Wh battery, and LPCAMM2 memory, a new full CNC aluminum chassis, our first purpose-built power-optimized display with touch support, an excellent feeling haptics touchpad, an option for pre-loaded Ubuntu, and much more. In many ways, this product has been six years in the making. We’ve taken all of the feedback you’ve given us on the first seven generations of Framework Laptop 13 to make this the ultimate portable developer and power user machine. Battery life is what you’ve asked for most, and we’ve delivered on this. On Netflix 4k streaming for example, we’re getting over 20 hours of battery life, which is not only 12 hours longer than we got on the previous-generation Framework Laptop 13, but it’s actually slightly longer than a 14-inch MacBook Pro M5! With all of this, it’s still a Framework Laptop, meaning it's repairable, upgradeable, customizable, and entirely yours to do what you want with. Framework Laptop 13 Pro is available to pre-order today, starting at $1,199 USD for DIY Edition and $1,499 USD for pre-built configurations, with first shipments in June.

We posted two videos on Framework Laptop 13 Pro to the Framework YouTube channel, a deep dive on the product, and a side-by-side comparison and upgrade guide with the original Framework Laptop 13. You can also check out the blog post we published for more detail on it.

Next, we introduced the latest updates to Framework Laptop 16, bringing one piece haptic touchpad and one piece keyboard options, along with a new Bezel color and a Ryzen 5 processor configuration. We’re also previewing a new OCuLink Dev Kit that enables extremely high throughput peripherals like eGPUs. Framework Laptop 16 is truly the ultimate portable workstation platform, with the flexibility of a desktop PC in a thin, robust magnesium and aluminum 16” chassis. All of the new updates take in the feedback you’ve given us over the last two years to both extend on modularity and level up performance and refinement. You can learn more on both the updates to Framework Laptop 16 and the OCuLink Dev Kit in this blog post.

Finally, we’re excited to preview the Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard, a compact keyboard with integrated touchpad that is excellent for living room use, setting up computers, and mounting into sim rigs. As we were developing Framework Desktop and using it in these scenarios, we found that there was just one popular keyboard in this segment, and it was one that neither we nor the broader community particularly liked. We knew we could do better, and so we did! Our keyboard uses the same great-feeling mechanical key structure and touchpad architecture that we put in Framework Laptop 12. A highly power-efficient Nordic nRF54 radio and open source ZMK Firmware enable pairing four BLE and USB-A Dongle hosts along with wired USB-C connectivity. In addition to the dongle, which is storable in the back of the keyboard, we’re developing a USB-A Adapter Expansion Card that allows it to sit flush in a Framework Laptop or Desktop. We’re sharing this preview of Framework Wireless Touchpad Keyboard to give developers an early start on building around it. You can learn more about this in the blog post we published.

Six years in, we’re not only continuing to deliver on the original promise, we’re bringing it to an entirely new level. We wanted to prove that you can have products that are refined, robust, and high performance, that still respect your rights through repairability, upgradeability, and the power to choose the software you want to run on them. We’re confident we have achieved this, but more importantly, we’re excited to see if you agree!

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[–] 36 points 6 months ago

This looks great!

I’ve been using Linux on desktop for about 8 months now and I’m enjoying it a lot. I could see myself buying a Linux laptop with this battery life.

It’s super cool that you can just buy the parts and upgrade your old laptop with this!

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago

    On Netflix 4k streaming for example, we’re getting over 20 hours of battery life

    that's pretty sick

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Still about 500 euro more expensive than similar Slimbook but at least not 2x as expensive as it used to be. At this point paying more for upgradable laptop makes sense. I will definitely consider it when I need a new one.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I have Tuxedo laptop (they get them the same ODMs as Slimbook) and love it but if it ever drops on the floor with significant imparct I no longer have a laptop. All I could do is send it back for official repair to Germany and prey, while if I got Framework I could buy parts myself.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I have 16 inch framework. I bought it fairly stripped down, only getting the parts I really needed for basic function as a laptop. I then bought additional parts as I had money for them and slotted them in. Made it a much more affordable purchase over all.

    And… then I spilled water on the keyboard. Shut it down, pulled it apart a little, dried next to a fan for a bit. Water hadn’t gotten past the keyboard luckily, but the keyboard was only partly functional. I just got a new keyboard module, put it in my self, good as new. No sending out the whole computer, no getting told by the rep that the whole machine was broken and I had to buy a new one.

    Payed for its self immediately that day as far as I’m concerned.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Totally but year or two ago you had to pay ~2.5k for a Framework and ~1.3k for a similar Slimbook. That meant that even if you dropped your Slimbook you could just buy a new one and it would still cost the same as the Framework. The selling point for Framework was that you could upgrade it but why spend more money to upgrade a laptop when you can just a Slimbook and buy completely new Slimbook couple years later for the price of one Framework? Now that the difference is about 500 euros it makes sense.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    I'll probably breakdown and finally get one

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    If I understand the specs correctly, this should be almost fully compatible with existing 13 hardware.

    Tempted to just get the black chassis once they release it, and put my current FW13 mainboard in it

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    They did a video where they swapped parts from a first generation FW13 with a FW13Pro. There were only two caveats: one, if you want the Pro battery on your older laptop, you have to buy a new bottom panel too because they made the battery bigger for a longer life and it won't fit in the old cover. And two, depending on your architecture, the Wi-Fi modules might not be interchangeable due to some vendor chipset thing, I think?

    Everything else was able to be swapped, though, it seemed.

    Edit: oh wait, I take it back, the speaker modules. I think they might technically be compatible, but since they're side-firing on the Pro instead of down-firing, you'd need a new bottom chassis if you didn't want them to sound awful.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    They also said you need the new touchpad and top plate to have enough clearance for the battery

    Bottom panel, input panel, battery, and speakers have to be all pro together

    You can put the new input panel on the old bottom panel, though

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    No, I don't think it was bigger on the top, I think it was bigger on the bottom. I'm pretty sure you just needed the bottom cover.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, the black chassis looks fucking awesome

    I'm having a Framework 16 and during work in a warehouse I produced a major scratch on it.
    Would love to either do a cover up "tattoo" (like laser engraving) or just switch to a black chassis, if it becomes available for the F16

    Either way, those things fucking rock

    My little brother has an old ThinkPad, which I regard as good.
    But the keyboard starts to die and he bought a new keyboard to replace.
    You need to disassemble the complete laptop, just to change the keyboard - and there are a fuckload of screws and flimsy connectors.
    Because of that age, I also guess, that those flimsy plastic brackets, holding the flat rippon cables, while easily break - at least that happend to me, when I tried to repair an really old piece of hardware

    The idea of Framework is absolutely great
    The only thing, that worries me, is the massive use of magnets, because working in a dirty industrial environment, it sucks up all the little metal pieces - and that killed the speakers of my last laptops at least, and brought that shit into PCB environment
    Still, at its so easy to disassemble, I can just pull out the modules, even while the laptop is running, clean them up and put them back.

    Fucking love this thing!

    Ok, only wanted to say something about this nice black chassis and got carried off...

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The new bottom cover requires the new battery, new speakers and new audio board, as well as the new input cover (graphite or silver). So you are limited to either getting a new input cover or getting the entire bottom kit.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    800 pounds for 64gb ddr5, what a time to be alive. Could get something a bit cheaper but it's still crazy prices.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I would love one but I'm a track point person and that pretty much leaves me with one option.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Looks great, I was never a framework believer because it was so overpriced (to an extent it still is), but this sounds way better and might actually be a good deal. Aside from the specs bump, they fixed almost all of the issues with the older frameworks (CEO talks more about it in this video).

    Better build quality and less flex, better screen, better speakers, and a better touchpad. The biggest issue I heard about it was that it felt a bit cheap and wobbly because of all the moving parts, but if they manage to fix that, I might actually get it some day.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Personally I have never had an issue with the build quality. I think that's more of a reviewer gripe than a real world issue.

    They occasionally have great sales too. I've seen prebuilds for $650 with previous gen boards. With the pro launch I wouldn't be surprised to see prices for the older models drop over the next month or two.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Painfully expensive, like all computer hardware these days.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Either skip upgrading, buy used, wait for prices to drop, or start saving.

    I have a used machine, until I can afford to get something new. Maybe in a little while I’ll get a framework. (I think that if the 16” gets a pro model I’d definitely get one.)

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I don't really do new technology any more. I'm more into keeping the old machines running as long as possible.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Honestly, that's why the last laptop I bought (over a year ago, now) was a Framework that I put Linux on. I haven't had to change anything out yet, but I like that it'll be easier when I do.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ooh big bad gov mafia is soo mad you aren't being subscribed to death.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not trying to screw the government or anything. I'm just trying to spend less money and throw fewer things in the landfill. The government part is just a nice perk.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Absolutely love the idea of having a laptop that can be repaired and parts swapped in and out.

    And I really like how they're making a more premium feeling product now with this pro update. Hopefully they are successful. I am definitely interested in upgrading to one some day.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Did they say what is the battery life for AMD version? I see the 20h is for Intel.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    With System76 and Framework (and Star Labs) I'll never buy / use another Apple product again.

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