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[–] 85 points 6 months ago (15 children)

€ and ¢ are vaguely similar symbols

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Assuming they didn't confuse ¢ and €, it's possible they were asking a threshold question. Like, if you'd be officially gay for €87, what would you do for less than a dollar?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    It depends on the proportional savings. Not to me, I understand how math works, but to most people.

    They’ll drive across town to save 5 cents per gallon on fuel, with a vehicle that has a 10 gallon tank (a total savings of half a dollar) but often wont drive the same distance for a product thats $10 lower than wherever they are if the product costs $500 to begin with.

    I’ll be gay to save any money. Doesn’t matter to me. You got some other discount I don't have to prove? Sure I’ll say I’m a disease vector for $2. Oh, you have a student discount where I save $1? How handy that I still have my decade-old student ID on me and always do because it doesn't have dates on it. Why yes I did look up the local zip code to save $0.25/person on admission!

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Ya but ¢ goes after the number

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Do people pay attention to that? € should go in front, but I always put it after (because that's how we pronounce the value in Italian) and nobody ever corrected me

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I've never even heard that it's supposed to go in front. Interestingly, the English Wikipedia article for the Euro does put it in front, the Italian, French and German articles does not.

    Maybe it was decided to put the € in front for English, because £ and $ are in front, but to put it behind like every other measuring unit for other languages?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Deeper down from there, I also found the information that:

    1. Countries/languages were allowed to continue putting the € in front or behind, like where they put their currency sign before the euro was introduced.
    2. Yes, for English, it was decided on before, because of the £ and $.
    3. The English EU style guide says explicitly:

      The euro sign is followed by the amount without space: "a sum of €30"
      The same rule applies in Dutch, Irish and Maltese. In all other official EU languages the order is reversed; the amount is followed by a hard space and the euro sign: "une somme de 30 €"

    Sources:

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  • I'm glad I could point you in the direction of the rabbit hole. It's not for nothing that my name's Alice :)

    For me it was also a good read learning about how the various languages make the plural of euro. Some languages keep "euro" as the plural, some others have a plural form (which is fine), but some others have really weird shit with complex logic. I'm always fascinated by languages!

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes and no, I guess. It's the arbitrary, prescriptive way to write cents that USians learn in school.

    It would look wrong to me if I saw a sign advertising something for ¢50 or 0.50$.

    That said, I also learned to always put commas inside the quotation, "like so," but I think that's super dumb and I refuse to do it.

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    They'd forget that their currency is $ if corporate capitalism wasn't so heavily ingrained into their national identity

    (Assuming the one who made a mistake is American - even though many countries use dollars the US are the only ones bold enough to forget the internet isn't just for them)

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I genuinely wonder how many click-bait/rage-bait links about American politics get clicked abroad. Is it a chicken and the egg situation? Companies only put out what people want to see and people only see what companies put out?

    Personally, it seems like people love to hate America.

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  • [–] 69 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Yeah man, 87 euros is more than 87 dollars...

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 6 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    It dipped briefly post COVID but... In general yeah.

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  • [–] [S] 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I know lol. Now that we're being literal and earnest, though, I'm gonna guess that the commenter in the OP was confused by the (very) slight visual similarity between the euro sign € and the American cent sign ¢ 🤷🏻

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry I got that you were joking but I'm caffeinated and that makes me addicted to earnestness.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    You gotta look at the better numbers. It was nearly equal until mid-January 2025. Then it dropped rapidly. Wonder what happened?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    What do you mean by "at the better numbers"? The ones I linked are the historical international exchange rates. It's the Google preview (not the AI Overview) but I can find a source from a webpage if you prefer, the numbers won't change.

    It's almost never been "nearly equal". Unless 1 EUR = 1.15 USD is nearly equal for you, in which case the data I linked is correct so again which numbers are you talking about?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    I think you really took my comment very negatively. That was not my intention

    It rose to 1 usd = .97 euro in January of 2025. Then it began a sharp decline immediately after Trump took office. I pulled my data here

    https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-eur-historical-data

    Google's overview is similar, but for the same time period if you convert Euro to USD you get the same ratios you posted. Currency markets are weird.

    But as an American currently living in the EU the difference between pre-Trump to now I get significantly less when converting USD to Euro. A few cents doesn't seem like much but when you transfer enough you feel it.

    Anyway, I wasn't trying to call your data bad. My goal was to insult Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    the link you gave looks more like march. i vaguely remember from uni economics that depreciation can be caused by decreased exports because less people now need to buy your currency which is needed to buy your export, thus demand falls and the euro’s price in dollars falls (though usually it’s depreciation that happens first causing increased exports since it’s cheaper to buy your export now). march 2025 sounds like when trump announced a ton of tariffs

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Well, I was talking about the value of the euro, you were talking about the value of the USD (basically, inverse values), that's why your "sharp decline" made no sense to me on the context of the image I linked.

    In any case, if you see the graph, it's not really a plunge/increase from a plain, but more of a valley/mountain situation. The value of the dollar rose from the election, I guess from expectation or whatever, but then rapidly went back to its usually values after the pig took office.

    It might be somewhat lower than before though as you said, I've not checked the +-0.05 ratios (not trying to be condescending btw, you are right, those cents matter. I wish I had a 4% raise lol).

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I'll be gay for €87. Where do I sign? Is there any induction material to read? Does anyone show me around gay headquarters? Do I have to meet any key stakeholders?

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Hi, yes, I would like to meet the CEO of gay?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    Is there any induction material to read? Does anyone show me around gay headquarters? Do I have to meet any key stakeholders?

    Fuck it, that's too much work. I'll just suck some dicks on the day, and see if that works.

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I, the only gay in my USA village, asked my provider about this vaccine. It was going to cost me about $1,000 USD total.

    It is not covered by my insurance. Each dose of the vaccine costs around $300 USD out-of-pocket and a full course is 3 doses, if I recall correctly. So in addition to that particular visit, I would have had to make 2 additional appointments with my healthcare provider, each of which would have a $55 co-pay -- which is in addition to the $300 cost per dose of the vaccine.

    As much as my provider and I were on board with getting me vaccinated, an extra $1,000 expense was not written in the cards for me.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Oof. I got my series of vaccinations years back at Planned Parenthood. I remember it not being covered by my insurance (I was outside the target age range) but not incredibly expensive.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Wait, is HPV a higher risk for gay people?? I thought it was a risk for straight people, or rather everybody, like men and women can get it from the opposite gender, i thought everyone should get the HPV before their first sexual activity?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I thought that statistically gay men have more frequent sex with a much broader range of partners and so stds spread much more quickly in unvaccinated sexually active gay men.

    Edit:
    Ah, no, I read elsewhere in this thread that HPV can be very serious indeed or life threatening for someone with HIV.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like a King of the Hill episode in which Hank regrets letting Peggy fill out his medical forms.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    He gets really upset about it, and the whole episode everyone thinks he's just homophobic, but at the end we find out he's only upset because she lied to the government.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Interesting. Why is gay considered an at risk group for HPV? I thought it was most likely to cause problems in women?

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    I'm really surprised to hear that somewhere in the EU doesn't cover the cost of preventative vaccines. In the USA, even the most basic insurance covers vaccines for HPV and a bunch of other stuff.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    That 87€ would likely be the standard price without any additional coverage though.

    Still does seem a bit pricey if its just one shot but also seems like a number OOOP just made up on a guesstimate.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    In the United States even the most basic health insurance is hundreds of dollars a month. I imagine it's cheaper in European countries.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's literally free in most of them

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Except Switzerland. Yaay second most expensive healthcare system in the world over here.

    And you know why? Because we have a system of private insurance, with various band aid fixes aimed at preventing the worst outcomes. It's better than what the US gets, but not a good system because it's still fundamentally wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Well, paid in advance by taxes, anyway.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    This is a silly point to make. Right wingers always make this point because they hate for rich people to ever have to contribute to society.

    A well designed taxation system takes from people in rough proportion to ability to pay and then distributes to people in rough proportion of need.

    So yeah, it cost someone somewhere something, but the fact that you can rock up at the maternity unit, std clinic or cancer specialist without your credit card in civilised countries is called free healthcare, and whingeing about how much some higher rate taxpayer could have spent on a supercar or yacht or second home if we didn't use that money to save someone's life is silly.

    Yeah, ok, so everything in healthcare costs something to somebody but now the word free has no meaning in relation to goods and services, so we can't use ever it?! Nope nope nope. Free has a meaning that's very clear in this context, this is free healthcare and it's good.

    I'm sick of "won't anybody think of the poor higher rate taxpayers?". No. They're not poor. Literally. Fix the tax system so that global corporations, multimillionaires and billionaires pay at a rate that approaches regular income tax, and everyone except the grotesquely wealthy will have a more reasonable tax bill and we can all have nice things.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Fair point. There is Medicaid for the poor in the USA. It covers vaccines, and like 40% of births in the US are covered by Medicaid. But for those that earn too much it sucks to pay for insurance.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    All vaccines? Where I am in Europe, some vaccines are covered and it varies by group, but not all.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    In mexico is all 100% but at the age and rythm dictated by government officials (doctors, at least).

    Some optional vaccines (think second shots for non endemic illneses for example) are paid but even then you can get them for free if they have them in health centers.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    At least in Germany, insurance generally only covers the vaccines recommended by a federal expert group of physicians and statisticians called the Stiko, standing committee on vaccination, who tend to be conservative in their recommendations. The HPV vaccine is only recommended for under 18 year olds and it can be difficult to find a physician who will go against the recommendation for liability reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, what? Difficult to find a physician who will give you an HPV vaccine even if you pay for it?

    I find that hard to believe. I'd imagine the STIKO recommendations are the German implementation of a national vaccination schedule. That wouldn't mean they're in any way against other vaccines, just that those are not deemed vital for population safety.

    But I'm just guessing here. Difficulties in getting required vaccines seems completely insane.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you're over 18 you most likely already have been exposed to HPV so a vaccine is pointless. Not a doctor might be wrong, but that's the rationale behind only giving it to minors.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I can understand that rationale, but that just makes it less useful for adults (at least probabilistically). That doesn't mean adults should be prevented from getting one, just be advised that they likely already have the immunity.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    I hope any statistics gathered from this data considers the 87 euro credit.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Even the Gay Parking Only spots give you more questions than that

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Like i always say $20 is coough cough 87 pounds is 87 pounds.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    And if anyone challenges it, just say you're bi but that wasn't an option.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I want my doctor to be honest with me, and give it to me straight, like a pear cider that's made from 100% pears.

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  • [+] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Was it like ginger ale but pear? Because that sounds pretty good

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    The US likes their slaves with as few off days as can be prevented by less than ¢50....$.5¿ Never really did learn the finer....... Of financial punctuation.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    so reverse "gay for pay".... got it

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