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[–] 94 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Used to go to:

  • Look up cast lists
  • Read the forums on trailers

Now:

  • The cast list is obfuscated and harder to navigate
  • The forums were removed

I use TMDB now

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  • [+] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] 63 points 6 months ago

    Thanks IMDB. It’s been real.

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  • [–] 76 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    ENSHIGIFICTION

    As opposed to enshigi non-fiction?

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Seems to be a push from Amazon (they own IMDB if you didn't know) to enshitify user reviews across the board. They're doing it on Amazon for some items as well, but even worse.

    https://lemmy.world/post/45764817

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Then it has no value to casual browsers, which is probably a majority of their visits. No ones signing up for that shit (i hope)

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    Its a shame i really enjoyed the brainrot of seeing assorted yokels prattle on about how project hail mary is an evil woke movie that brainwashed them into being gay and also had too much dialogue and too much emotion and they skipped through everything that wasn't a shot of the CG ships flying around

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago*

    Thank you, Amazon!

    I was an ImDB user for over 20 years and always to lazy to search for an alternative - even though I was dreading the development in the recent years.

    But NOW I finally switched!

    Goodbye ImDB! Hello tmdb.org!

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Aren't there some alternative movie rating databases?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Letterboxd is where it's at

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Letterboxd is more like a social media for movies instead of a user movie review site.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    @TheImpressiveX Letterboxd is first and foremost a review site, imo. There are some editorial articles on it, and there are user-curated lists, but it does not have a lot of "social media" features

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I'm in all the way until all the data sellers are doing nothing more than selling my personal details back and forth to each other in an endless loop. One day my personal details will be worth nothing and peace will reign throughout the land! /s

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Are there any good alternatives anyone can recommend?

    Do you think it's a prelude to in a year or so wanting age verification on accounts?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (7 children)

    I've been using Letterboxd for a while now and am pretty happy with it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    My only issue with letterboxd is they pull from TheMovieDB for metadata/director verification and TMDB has some exclusionary/gatekeeping policy where they don't consider films released primarily on Youtube eligible. This has fucked over indie directors like Joel Haver. I think his fans have manually intervened but no policy has changed that I know of.

    https://letterboxd.com/director/joel-haver/

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Bummer that they do that. Any platform that you can recommend that addresses that issue and is user-friendly?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    On NeoDB, you can create entries yourself, as well as import from various sources: IMDb, TMDB, Letterboxd, Douban etc

    https://joinfediverse.wiki/NeoDB

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Uses Neodb instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Ok, but why is the button Hub themed 😳

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Oh no, not the user reviews!

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Who cares? The reviews are the worst part of IMDB. I use it to verify facts of a movie - year, actors, director, etc. I have no interest in the weird opinions that end up on IMDB.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    The only time I cared about reviews on imdb was this one guy who had a absolutely ludicrous amount of porn reviews and looked exactly like the type of person to have a ludicrous amount of porn reviews.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    If you want good reviews use Letterboxd. Funniest meme shit on there.

    It did get mildly enshitified recently too though because they moved the reviews under a button in favor of cast and crew listings. Like, no one cares about that Letterboxd, we have IMDB and TMDB for that. We don't need a third option, just stick to tracking and meme reviews.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I used to love going to the IMDb forum and reading all of the user posts. There was a troll named Michael flatley that was genius

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    This is not true. I have never had an account and can still read the user reviews.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Did you try just now?

    While it could be regional, I am getting it in the middle of the US and we tend to get this kind of stuff last. Reviews require a login for me right now on Project Hail Mary and the one old movie I checked from the 90s.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, just tried it again for that movie and I had no problem. I will say this is in the IOS app and in the past when I updated the app it tried to get me to login but it’s always had a skip link.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Its definitrly true in some places. Last night I went to read a review and it prompted a sign in.

    Mayne its different on the web or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I’m sure it’s prob location or some other demo they are picking up to enforce that shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Between multiple browsers on desktop and mobile, all in private mode or browsers that do not save any cookies or data, VPNed into any country I tried, you now need to be logged in to see reviews. Either you’re logged in, or lived in a place that isn’t Canada, the US, Japan, Denmark, Australia, Norway, or whatever other places I tried.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    There's only one user review I've read that I ever got anything out of: it was a review left for Sex and The City Movie 2, and it was hilarious. Just going on about how awful everything in that movie is.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I don’t like IMDb, but I’m not ready to move yet. I’ve exported everything to TMDB (The Movie Database) but I still use both. IMDb has the trivia. TVDB doesn’t have an app. I use Safari web shortcuts for both (and Wikipedia).

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Doesn't have an app

    That sounds like a plus to me

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Yes and no. IMDb is ten billion percent better in Safari if you have a competent content blocker. On the Android side, I wouldn't make the shortcut, because I assume it would go through Chrome. I'd just use Firefox and uBlock Origin. But yes, IMDb without the app is better. However, it doesn't save searches (which also might be a plus, but if I keep coming back to what I'm watching, having the history does save time).

    If a site is perfectly servicable without an app, I'd recommend people just do that all day long. Apps are not the best thing, but they're convenient to a point. I think people should be aware of what apps can do without their permission vs web content. This varies between iOS and Android too, so you gotta know what you're running and what it can do/what can be done to it by others.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    App for a web site is ALWAYS worse. I hate that shit. The only time the app is better is if they purposefully make the mobile site worse so you switch to the app. Facebook was excellent at doing this.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The problem is — or, at least, from my perspective as an old school/pre-WWW computer user — that a lot of sites aren't made for mobile. If they are, it's great, it's fine, the app might offer a couple bonuses, but you should have a good experience just using a browser. If they aren't — the app is a must.

    Forums are a great example of this. When Android and iOS were new, most forums ran like shit in a mobile browser, and if you had a lot to type, you'd often lose it if you didn't remember to copy it to the clipboard first. Even then, with RAM limitations, you could lose your work. An app was created called Tapatalk, it did require forum owners to install a plugin on their end, but it made forums into an app, and it was good — until they got greedy. Tapatalk was a good way to bypass the ads on the forum ("because phone screens are smaller"). Then Tapatalk started putting their own ads in. They were taking money from the forum operators, not giving them any back, and making money on the whole process. Forums stopped installing the plugin, and many that had it began removing it.

    Around the same time, forum software makers, like Invision, phpBB, and vBulletin, began including mobile support natively, so if a forum updated their software, they got mobile support. Thus, the Tapatalk gravy train came to a screeching halt. They'd pissed off forum users and forum owners, and now neither of them needed Tapatalk.

    These days, I think most sites are made with mobile in mind. But apps can scrape more data without permission, so they tend to be favoured by the people who run the sites, especially concerning Android users, who can natively run Firefox and uBlock Origin. But they also love Android users who love Chrome, and iOS users in total, because they can get more by those users (generally, a majority of them at least).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    iOS can now run uBlock Origin! Before that, there was Wipr/wipr 2 which are still excellent, and the Firefox Focus browser which has some stellar adblocking and wipes all browsing data, cookies, cache, everything every time you exit the browser (or click the button to do it.)

    Permissions in iOS have historically been more locked down for apps as well, giving users much more control over what apps can access. This changed a couple years back and now Android gives users more control over what apps can access than it used to.

    I remember trying to browse forums before iOS/android were a thing and yah, it was a nightmare. Shoot, when iPhones came out, they couldn’t even copy and paste! I had the first Android phone that was released when it came out, the Dream, and it was revolutionary. I stopped using all Google products and services a long while ago, so iOS was pretty fleshed out by the time I got my first iPhone.

    Now, full desktop sites work pretty well on mobile devices—I often prefer them to mobile versions of sites. I’m lucky to have really good eyesight though, so I like my text very small and condensed and all over the screen for maximum info without scrolling.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, uBlock Origin is available for iOS as a Safari plugin. I've used uBO, Wipr2, and Adguard (free, $4-6, and $10 respectively) and Wipr2 is a little better. But I own all of them and I can swap Wipr2 out at any point I like. uBO being free means it's easier to get into for someone new to the platform, though.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Aha, you know what’s up, I ain’t gotta tell you hahaha. I paid the small price for Wipr 2 after loving the first one, and the dev is a really cool person. I don’t use YT much but my one complaint is that it does not tend to block YT ads. Firefox Focus does perfectly, and allows for background play too! I’m interested in adguard to try, but I mostly don’t leave the house and my PiHole lives here for DNS stuff!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, countdown to loginwalling trivia section has begun...

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Or elimination. Never forget what they took from us, the comments/forum section. IIRC they did it because of creepy people posting "age of majority" countdowns and other creepy content on starlets, and they wanted more Hollywood people interacting with the site (IMDb Pro subs). So they removed the noise. The problem is, there are a lot of inaccuracies and duplications in the trivia and related sections. I would peg that for removal instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    It’s probably something about protecting against mass scraping, right? Or direct AI click throughs.

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