He needs to be put in prison.
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So hypothetically how "in trouble" could one get for setting up a go fund me like this and never giving the guy the money? I could use a few bucks even though I'm not internet famous, and I mean I know scamming is bad but this seems like decent target selection...
It depends on the terms of the service - you would want to check carefully to see what your actual funding requirements are, however most sites are extremely lenient and scams are rampant. Delaying until people simply forget is a common and effective strategy. However again, given the highly political nature of events like this, you would run a high risk of a lawsuit and may be investigated for wire fraud if you are not careful about your terms.
Just make your whole life centered around being conservative and you'll just be pardoned
Thanks for a real answer! I'm half kidding about considering it lol.
Just put it in the fine print and let it check a lawyer. I'm pretty sure you can craft it in a way that is legally safe...
fascist money printer
Civil lawsuits can take earnings that result when profiting from a wrongful death ... like this guy is doing.
Justice is restored!
It's just that, has it been convicted of any crime?
No. Im not sure there will be a crime charged ... the system is too corrupt. There could be a civil suit.
A civil suit to recover profits from a crime the state does not recognize. From when the nazi storm trooper murdered a lady on camera.
You get why people make fun of liberals, right?
A crime is not needed for a civil suit. A person can be found not guilty of a murder and still lose a civil suit for wrongful death.
Has this nade cops stop murdering people?
Cops have actual "Qualified Immunity", which is bullshit on a federal level. It is basically flawless insurance coverage at taxpayer expense. They cannot be sued personally unless it has been established that the EXACT thing they did has already been ruled on as being "bad".
From a financial perspective it's not really a secret -- big money is backing the far-right and conservative media and political sphere. Systems like GoFundMe and others are ripe targets for grifting of course, but they're also ripe for manipulating public opinion. Do you have an agenda and lots of money? You can easily afford bot services and then split your pile of money up among dozens, hundreds, thousands or more different accounts to give the impression that a cause like this is more popular than it is. Or you can use your social media influence to manipulate people into donating on your behalf. And of course the bonus is that it emboldens and encourages those who actually do believe this shit to speak up and participate, amplifying the message even more.
And aside from all that, there's just a subset of people who are out of touch but who truly believe that danger is imminent and lurking around every corner. They're getting fear based messaging from social media, Fox News, and elsewhere that's got them literally thinking that illegal immigrants are hiding in the bushes ready to murder them the moment they step out of their car. I know people whose world view is so skewed towards fear that they genuinely think it's dangerous to go into the city of 40K population for a doctor's appointment. They think people are getting murdered left and right on every street corner every minute of every day. And no amount of reassurance from a more sane and measured perspective seems to change that.
dont feel safe passing through a town of 40k population
I cant think of any population from 40k that id feel safe around.
think people are getting raped and murdered on every street corner every minute of every day
I think they assume everyone else has the same job they do.
If it makes a difference, I just looked at the Renee Good GoFundMe, and it closed at $1,500,000.
IIRC, her family closed it after getting in way more money than they ever imagined and suggested that folks donate to other impacted families.
If it makes a difference
It doesn't, she's fucking dead.
A lot of people are dead, but they weren't white and didn't get a GoFundMe, or even mentioned by the news.
I mean yeah true, but the point is that they deserve it too, not that she didn't.
I think you deserve it mostly
I see I have misinterpreted your comment "that they deserve it too" as they too deserve to be shot.
Unfortunately I have seen many comments here on Lemmy from nazis in that style and certain mods simply letting them be in place. And took this to be another one (also, as I commented somewhere yesterday, I had a big hangover)
I apologize for my mistake, I was wrong.
We don't claim David Londner. He can go fuck himself with $30 worth of jagged scrap metal.
Sincerily, descendants of vikings
Hope he dies soon
Oh, that's far too easy, I want people like this to live a very long and miserable life.
Flat broke, ostracized from humanity, abandoned by their family and friends, betrayed by the scam artists who convinced they they would be protected for their illegal and immoral acts, dying old and alone unremarked in a puddle of their own filth after a very long and painful life.
Dead Nazi make martyrs and we do not want martyrs. Heck, the Cheeto-in-Chief nicked his ear to play one, no need to add some gravy seals to the list.
Domestic terrorist = dropping kids off at school.
Makes sense, large amounts of money and evil deeds generally go hand in hand.
I guarantee nothing good will be done with that money
There's a reason why the rest of the world sneers at 'Murica
...which is strange considering how many people risk their lives trying to get here. If America was as bad as it seems, you'd think there would be more illegal immigration in the opposite direction.
Whaddya call digital nomads visa hopping and dodging US taxes and the domestic taxes of the nations they're in?
I fucking hate goons.
Trash. Don't even give that Trumpgoon a name. Renee Good was murdered by scum.
He has a name, he has a face, he has a bank account, he has a home address, and he has the right to a jury of his peers.
He is a fascist, an invader, and a murderer. Knowing his name can help in seeking justice.
oh and the person representing him in future cases in court is the same one that dropped out of the michigan governership for the next election.
Can we have both of these things?
The only right fascists like him deserve is to face the fucking wall.
The courts are owned by the fascist masters he serves. The state shouldn't have the monopoly on violence. It's time the people wake up and got organized to enforce our own authority against this shit.
There are how many millions of unregistered guns in America?
That murdering pig will eventually eat and choke on his own karma.
Is this actually real?
Reported for libelous content. Renee was not a domestic terrorist as stated in the description.
At this point man I don't think it's going to do anything. GoFundMe will leave it up to avoid disfavor with the current administration imo.
Thank you. The writing was so juvenile and 2nd grade that I honestly wasn't sure.
Bummer that we can't trust that the next government will actually prosecute these people.
This seems made by a fan or something, is it possible that its a rug pull?
It was a fan, the updates say that GoFundMe was in touch with the murderer, then about it being canceled and then about being in touch with the murderer again.
Seventeen thousand donors...out of eight billion people.
Remember the real numbers here.
That's a misleading-denominator fallacy. 8 billion isn't the relevant pool. Most of those people don't live in the US, don't follow this story, don't use GoFundMe, and have no stake in US immigration enforcement.
By your logic, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge (17 million donors) represented only 0.2% of humanity, so ALS awareness was a nothingburger. Obviously not true.
Donating is a costly and strong signal. For every person who pays, many more quietly agree. 17,000 paying donors typically implies hundreds of thousands of sympathizers, which is a meaningful bloc in a country of 160 million voters.
You might have meant something narrower, like 'loud online fundraising can overstate real support.' That's a fair point worth making. The 8 billion framing isn't.
What's to stop leftists from starting gofundmes for bootlocking facists and then keeping the money?
The threat of being sued or charged with criminal fraud.
Particularly dangerous in an environment where the courts are in the pocket of fascists.
tamara lich did it to the truckers in canada, she took the money but she was caught though.
What's that guy up to these days?
Hiding from the public after the fbi helped moved his stuff, plus hes also Married to a fillipino wife too, go figure white guy cant find a usa girl has to get a Ignorant overseas bride whos not well versed in the politics/drama of the us/conservatives. i used to followed some tubers, where it was the reverse the asian cant find any chick in the usa who isnt up to his bullshit, he chose a younger british white chick and married her asap.(and yes they are also a magaty too). the asian guys ex was actually wholesome, had her own career and such, but the relationship dint go anywhere, being on YT strained it as such.
Hiding, still, same as he will be until his "daddy" loses power and he's drug out and tried for murder.
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