Somebody better put up a big fuckoff wall between the US and Mexico to keep the Americans out.
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What really makes me chuckle is whenever someone tries to insist to me that Mexican men are chauvinists, and I have to remind them that not only did they elect a woman, but they elected a woman who is doing FDR shit and actually making people's lives better.
I'm jealous. The closest we got was Bernie and both parties swift-boated him.
They are horribly chauvinistic.
Let's play a game. The US elected Obama so they are not racist riiight?
I see the point you're getting at, but this is too big of a debate for Saturday morning. :)
Have a great day.
Ladies and gentlemen, white US liberals when confronted with their shitty conservative positions. Saving this- it’s a such a perfect encapsulation.
Landed and gentlemen, the troll who literally never makes a comment on this platform other than to try and demoralize a doomed society of millions of people. Torturing people like this is clearly all you ever think about. It's pathetic and you desperately need mental help.
Come on, now, be fair, I love dunking on liberals as much as the next leftist, but "Mexican men aren't chauvinists" is hardly a conservative position, as leftists aren't we supposed to make the argument that no people are a monolith?
Men are chauvinists. This is not somehow unique to Mexico.
chauvinism, excessive and unreasonable patriotism, similar to jingoism. The word is derived from the name of Nicolas Chauvin, a French soldier who, satisfied with the reward of military honours and a small pension, retained a simpleminded devotion to Napoleon. Chauvin came to typify the cult of the glorification of all things military that was popular after 1815 among the veterans of Napoleon’s armies. Later, chauvinism came to mean any kind of ultranationalism and was used generally to connote an undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs. The term chauvinism also may describe an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex, as in male chauvinism. Some animal-rights advocates have used the term to indicate a similar attitude on the part of human beings toward other species, as in “species chauvinism.”
According to this definition from Britannica, men, women, trans people, etc can also be chauvinist. Men can be male chauvinist, in that they think they are the "superior gender". But that doesn't exclude the concept of female chauvinism.
The concept of a "woman chauvinist" is irrelevant. It literally does not matter. What's going to happen, are women going to take over society and force men into servitude? Stop them from leaving the house without an escort? Make them give up their careers? 🙄
In a society that was built by men, for men, men's chauvinism is a problem and an unconscious bias they all carry with them from a very young age. There's a lifetime of unlearning that men need to do to not be chauvinists. Any man who has gone through this process to rid themselves of their chauvinism has no problem with statements like "men are chauvinists" because they know it's true.
No it isn't true, because it's a broad stereotyping and generalization based upon "they who scream loudest" and negates any local culture or even considers the concept of a silent majority. Basically you're throwing billions of people and thousands of cultures under the bus cause it makes you feel superior.
It's the same kind of thinking that helps to create more chauvenists, because you're basically feeding people the "us vs them" mentality, also known as "otherisms", that is the bread and butter of fascist, nationalists and the like that want you to think in those terms - because that allows them to prey on weak and infirm, who feel powerless to that type of shaming tactic, which then makes them go against the concept of humanism, because "all men bad" is empirically untrue. That then gives them an opening to think in the terms of their oppressor, because it is STILL a class struggle.
You want it to be true as a matter of toxic mentality - which includes toxic femininity, which is the core of TERF thinking - and rhetoric as a tactic to try and shame people into being agreeable to your point. But it will instead have the opposite effect, which means your mentality and false axioms cause more harm than good. In effect it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, because it is blatant disinformation that refuses to see the actual problems of the world. That's why the world of psychiatry has said it clearly: "men bad" basically becomes a feedback loop.
If you think bro casts, think tanks and political interests are a 1:1 with the thinking of the general populace, you have put on the jogging suit and drink deeply from the KoolAid bowl because it is cheaper than therapy.
When you use terms like "them", I can't help but think that you're misandrist - and as I tell people all the time: misandry is just the other side of the patriarchy coin, opposite to misogyny. That in turn feeds the fire of chauvenism.
I.e you're apart of the problem.
are women going to
If given the chance, sure.
After all, they're only human..
“You cant be a bigot if you have a [POC/LGBTQ/whatever else] friend” is certainly a hallmark of conservative discourse
Agreed. And with sexism, the link is even weaker.
America is only 15% black so it at least suggests that a good chunk of the other 85% were not too racist to elect Obama.
But humanity is 52% women so in theory, women could elect a woman even if every man in the country was in fact chauvinist.
Correct, the major reason she won the elections is because she was supported by her predecessor. (There was another female candidate too!)
We can't ignore that since AMLO was in power he started a daily televised show that acts as state propaganda and one of his missions was to "continue the 4th transformation" as in "you need to vote for my party no matter who it is".
(US citizens will relate to the propaganda right now with the White House putting up press conferences almost daily to convince people that they are winning while trying to police which press is 'good' and which is 'bad')
You can see the chauvinism in some of the criticisms coming to Claudia, I don't agree with any of that misogynist bullshit but a lot of people are angry with her and the only thing they can say is "we won't have another female president".
Did more white people voted for Obama too? Because in Mexico, more men voted her than women did, relatively speaking. Also, our first black president was elected like 200 years ago.
What is FDR?
Franklin D. Roosevelt, a US president who in the 1930's ended the great depression by finally implementing some social welfare programs and reining in corporate power somewhat (like protecting the right to unionize) to prevent a socialist revolution.
God I love the Fediverse.
Feels weird, but I just love that people answer questions and aren't jerks about it.
The chillness of this place has been pretty awesome, and I very much want to perpetuate that chillness and goodwill as best I can :)
Depends on the question.
Lemmy, why is windows so much better than Linux?
All accurate beyond debate except for the part about his social programs ending the depression. That point is debatable, the debate being that it was actually deficit spending to industrialize for WW2 that did it.
implementing some social welfare programs ... to prevent a socialist revolution.
The irony...

TL;DR he was just a pussy who implemented pro worker laws just to deter socialist USSR influence
Flying Death Robots
It is my belief that every society benefits from free healthcare.
Wow, like youre not even considering billionaire pedophiles.
I have mixed feelings on this. If the entire world had access to free healthcare, chances are research and development would grind to a halt unless they also funded research and development. Taxpayers would need to be willing to pay a company hundreds of millions of dollars if they discovered a useful product.
...it can work in theory, but I'm not sure if it would work in a democracy. The average voter would demand that money be spent on more immediately useful services. If it did work, however, we would save the billions of dollars pharmaceutical companies spend on lawyers and marketing.
I also believe in free education, which includes research facilities.
You could fund the facilities, but how many people would be willing to get a doctorate in biological chemistry if the only available jobs were relatively low paying civil servants?
Most of the researchers in the pharmaceutical industry were employed as minimum wage workers during their six years in college. We would have to completely overhaul the incentive structure if we expected colleges to replace the for profit industry.
biological chemistry
fun fact: I have had a years-long interest into biochemistry since i was 12, and i want to study biology because of it, but i can't; because i don't have the time/money, because i need to get a job now to earn money, instead of spending another 6 years in school.
As opposed to now, where companies copyright and patent their medications and sell them ultimately to...taxpayers who pay them billions of dollars a year in just out of pocket costs, let alone the scheme that is the American private insurance/healthcare system.
If taxpayers had to fund drug companies or research institutions for R&D without the insane middleman that is the private healthcare/insurance system, it would cost a fraction of what it does now.
On top of that, this assumes that people won't do research for the good of society vs becoming filthy rich, which is a false assumption driven by Capitalist propaganda. Remember that the ultra wealthy CEOs and executives of these drug companies aren't the ones doing any of the actual work or research. That is all done by scientists and engineers, who make a decent living, but none of them are incredibly rich from it, classic Capitalist exploitation at work.
Often times these drug companies (and the private equity firms that own them) don't even primarily do R&D, they just purchase the patents and IP rights to drugs that are already on the market, and once they do that, they jack up the price often by hundreds of percent to increase their cashflow.
That cost gets sent to the insurance companies, which of course, they pass on to consumers, raising our healthcare prices year after year.
I want medical researchers, scientists, and engineers to make a good living, a very good living, their work literally saves and improves hundreds of millions of people's lives worldwide. But you don't need a CEO or executives, or private equity firms owning that space and making insane amounts of money, you just literally don't.
There are millions of very smart and passionate people around the world who want to do this kind of work because they enjoy it, and they want to make a difference. Providing an open and rigorous academic and scientific structure to study and practice this is all you need. That already exists today, many medical breakthroughs came from publicially funded research institutes, which is the way it should be.
If the entire world had access to free healthcare, chances are research and development would grind to a halt unless they also funded research and development. Taxpayers would need to be willing to pay a company hundreds of millions of dollars if they discovered a useful product.
I don't see why it would. A company would still invest in research if they thought they had a chance to sell it to the healthcare system, for example. It wouldn't be the first nor last time something like that happened, and the latter case isn't too different from how it works already.
Consider insulin, for example. Research into it and drugs for treatment of diabetes doesn't happen exclusively in the US.
…it can work in theory, but I’m not sure if it would work in a democracy.
And yet many democracies have UHC... and publicly-funded research.
Penicillin was invented in a public university lab. We used to have a strong public research in the health sector worldwide.
Then neo-liberalism managed to convince politic leaders to progressively shut down public research and subsidize more and more the private sector.
This is not unique to the US. Your taxes pay for R&D, then your insurance (or your wallet…) pays to get the drugs you subsidized. And the private sector does not need ginormous margins to stimulate private R&D spendings.
I've seen penicillin and insulin mentioned quite a bit in these comments, but these two compounds were relatively low hanging fruits.
Penicillin in particular is an interesting example. While it's development might have been in public institutions, it was largely the product of obscene defense expenditure. Things wouldn't have worked out like they did if it didn't have military applications.
Thats the thing about government research. Governments have narrow interests, and the average voter isn't equipped to see the bigger picture. They'd prefer tax breaks over research if given an option. They wouldn't want to pay for the research, but they'd expect the product of that research to be given for free.
Social medicine only enhances research and development because the studies can be conducted in a wider manner.
R and D is funded in nations with universal health care all the time. There's always been a pipeline and interchange between public and private health research interests. I'm not sure what your point is.
I should move to Mexico.
This made me think about it. Seriously. If I could get about $2k for gas I could get to TJ.
Please don't, we are already gentrified enough
Mexico is hardly gentrified. There are some areas where there are a lot of immigrants, but the population is about 130 million, and less than 1% are foreign born. That's significantly lower than both USA and Canada.
You obviously haven't been to mexico city or any of the other tourist destinations in mexico. Its really bad, there are far too many "nomads" pricing out the locals.
I've been to Mexico City. It's absolutely huge. There are probably neighbourhoods where "nomads" are pricing out the locals, but the vast majority of the city isn't affected. What's driving up rents in Mexico City is that it's Mexico City. Most of the people moving there are Mexican.
As for other tourist destinations, yes in tourist destinations there are tourists! Wow. But, there's a lot of places in Mexico that aren't tourist destinations, or are destinations only for Mexican tourists. There are entire cities with millions of inhabitants where you're very unlikely to ever see an American / nomad.
My brother in christ there are right now people moving into any city with working infrastructure here in México no matter the state: Tijuana, Hermosillo, Mexicali, Monterrey, Leon, Mochis, Mexicali, etc
It's not exclusive to México City, they will move any place where rent is 'cheap'. They have been outpriced by the US and will look for any place where they can live.
They are not going to show up in any population stats because they don't even bother changing their residency status and even then being less than 1% doesn't excuse their gentrification.
Wow, I'm impressed, you actually managed to mention one city that isn't either in the far north or on the beach. (And it's not Mexicali, even though you mentioned it twice). It's almost like you've actually visited Mexico before!
Must be nice to have politicians who are trying to improve the lives of the people.
Since coming to power in 2024, Sheinbaum has sought to undo decades of damage caused by neoliberal policies, building on the work of the previous socialist government. She has pledged to build 1.8m new homes to tackle a housing shortage while strengthening tenants’ rights.
Last year she announced plans to shorten the work week from 48 hours to 40 hours, while increasing the minimum wage by 13%, continuing a policy of regular hikes championed by her predecessor and mentor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador since 2018.
“For years it was said that the minimum wage couldn’t go up,” she told a conference in December, “that it would cause inflation, that there would no longer be investment in the country, foreign investment.”
Despite that, following a cumulative minimum wage increase of 154% since 2018, “we are at a record level of foreign investment,” she added.
Since coming to power in 2024, Sheinbaum has sought to undo decades of damage caused by neoliberal policies, building on the work of the previous socialist government. She has pledged to build 1.8m new homes to tackle a housing shortage while strengthening tenants’ rights.
Meanwhile, when she was governing CDMX, she worked with Airbnb and it helped to gentrify even more sections for the city. There have been people forced out of homes they have lived in for decades due to this pressure.
Last year she announced plans to shorten the work week from 48 hours to 40 hours, while increasing the minimum wage by 13%, continuing a policy of regular hikes championed by her predecessor and mentor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador since 2018.
The people actually demanded this to be immediate, but they preferred to listen to business owners and are just reducing it 2 hours for each year, culminating to 40 hours in 2030.
They didn't change anything related to how many days we need to work each week, so employers will try to squeeze these hours into 6-day workweeks anyway. She argued that this was not part of the historical demand for a 40 hour work-week.
Oh yeah and they EXTENDED the limit for extra-hours.
“For years it was said that the minimum wage couldn’t go up,” she told a conference in December, “that it would cause inflation, that there would no longer be investment in the country, foreign investment.”
Despite that, following a cumulative minimum wage increase of 154% since 2018, “we are at a record level of foreign investment,” she added.
Well that's true, but at the same time the cost for food has nearly doubled
How did she work with AirBnB? Your link does not explain your claim. About the work week it's still better, though not desirable for you the way it was passed as a law. The last point about doubling food prices is just false and shows your true colors. Food is more expensive of course because inflation is growing, and grows probably faster than the last few years, but doubled on food? Sure, pal.
As I said yesterday, it didn't explain anything, it just says that. Moreover, anyone could say she worked with UNESCO to pump CDMX as an attractive pole for digital nomads, too. Don't get me wrong, it's a bad situation with apartments skyrocketing prices, but that's hardly something owed to her.
And yeah, some products become expensive sometimes, but you said food doubled prices. As in 100% inflation in food, which is nuts.
I do live here.
Antier compré jitomate. 60 pesos el kilo en Walmart y hasta en el tianguis. 54 en el Chedrahui, en "martimiércoles" quizá hasta más barato, pero ese es mi punto. Sigues usando un caso particular para la comida en general. Si quieres ser serio, anda a ver cuánto se ha inflado la canasta básica. Como ves, sé de primera mano de qué hablas. No te gusta Sheinbaum, está bien. No es excelente, pero tampoco mames con tu "comida está al doble". Por mi parte, el asunto de la vivienda lo pudo haber manejado mejor y hasta donde sé, una iniciativa de ley está en curso para regular esto.
CIA backed fascist coup in 3...2...
Good for Mexico! Let's hope USA is past invading their Latin American neighbours when they elect Socialist leaders, though...

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