Here's my beautiful unemployed-for-too-long-have-no-money-dont-care-about-looks lab :)

picture of a raspberrypi, switch, HP elite desk, KVM and mess of cables on a desk

Hey it's more than good enough to run all this Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

screenshot showing list of hosted apps and resources usage of servers

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[–] 130 points 7 months ago (12 children)

people put too much "lab" and not enough "home" in homelab. we need more dust, more cables, more jank. love this.

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  • [–] 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Dust and jank you say? Behold, my old basement homelab when I rented just outside Boston with a very permissive landlord who agreed to let me have Comcast gig pro fiber pulled into the basement, running off an outlet I installed without asking on a free slot in our breaker box. The dust was terrible, the rack was a hodge podge, I had to put up that sign because maintenance guys kept plugging their power tools into the UPS when I wasn't around and tripping it. But Comcast fucked up the billing and the 2gig + 1gig symmetric internet is still active to this day for free, which I left behind minimally working for the next tenants after parting out the rack. The tower by the side was a friend who wanted to colocate on my fiber, and I had some fun stuff like a slide out vga console. I also pulled Ethernet into every room, most of them installed with nice wall plates all bundled down to the rack, so with a house full of gamers, you could have multiple people pulling a gig on a game download without anyone stepping on anyone else's toes.

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    more dust

    Believe it or not I cleaned before taking the pic lol

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I had a dusty laptop running a homelab for you, and figured I should show something nice on the screen. Then, I typed in my password like an idiot. Not gonna put that online. :(

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  • [–] 65 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    A little late to the party, but here's mine.

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  • [–] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    the hardrive just out in the wild, living life like it was meant to be lived.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Is this the β€œbefore” shot? There’s 190 spare ports. I’m all for leaving room to expand, but that’s a lot

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I remember looking at Sysracks racks a while back when I was trying to find sound-absorbent enclosed racks (which they do make, though I didn't get one; wasn't willing to pay for it, as they come at a very large premium). They were one of the very few companies making them. I don't think that those particular ones are the sound-absorbent models, but their name stuck in my head.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I got this because it’s almost fully enclosed. Most of the noise comes from an open rear door which this doesn’t have, and an open front door which this sort of has. It’s not very loud when the hvac is set to a reasonable level, even though it’s pulling air through 4 fans on the top.

    I have additional sound deadening material if I need to apply it but I’m not there yet.

    I’m eyeing 3-5 more 1U servers though so maybe I’ll need to do it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I have additional sound deadening material if I need to apply it but I’m not there yet.

    That's probably a pretty good idea in terms of cost. I checked earlier when I made the comment to see what the price difference these days was, and IIRC a non-isolated 18U is ~$800 and an isolated 18U is ~$1800. They aren't putting anything like $1k of sound-absorbing material into the rack.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago* (14 children)

    I was too lazy to put on clothes and go out to my shack. This picture is a bit old. It's missing a lot of mess and my PeerTube server.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oh neat! is that where peertube.wtf is also hosted?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That's the server currently missing from the picture. Right now it's a mess, because I'm doing a re-setup of everything. But getting my hands on hard drives have been difficult and I actually still need a CPU and motherboard.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Is the UPS between quotes just a fancy power hub? I mean that would work, that's smart.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Yea, it's a power station with built-in UPS. https://iallpowers.eu/products/allpowers-r600-portable-power-station-600w-299wh-with-lifep04-battery-1

    The white box at the wall is also a battery from my solar setup, with an ATS. So kinda double UPS 🀭

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I want one! Ive been thinking of setting up one with solar since my area gets next to no rain and hot as hell. Might as well use that to my advantage!

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I'm still not using one. The problem is that you've got two classes of devices that haven't quite converged to what I want.

    UPS

    Traditionally, the purpose of UPSes isn't to keep systems running (other than through very short outages). It's to do one of the following:

    • Provide a small amount of buffer until a backup power system, like a generator, has time to come online.

    • Give the systems time to shut down cleanly. If the user is right there, they have time to save their work. This was particularly an issue before journaled filesystems became the norm, since an unclean shutdown in the era when Windows was using FAT, Linux was using ext2, and MacOS was using HFS had at least the possibility to corrupt your filesystem. They have the ability to report their charge level to an attached computer so that it knows when the battery level is critical and then software on it can start it shutting down. On Linux, the most-common software package to do this is Network UPS Tools, or NUT.

    These things don't need a lot of capacity. They rarely get drained, so they usually use lead-acid batteries, which are heavy and don't have many full charge-discharge cycles in them (but are pretty happy staying fully charged all the time). You can still get these. The lead-acid batteries are replaceable, though, so an old UPS can keep going for a very long time.

    Powerstation

    These are designed to keep attached devices running for a longer period of time. Unfortunately, they have a couple of important limitations for powering computer systems.

    • They do not normally have the ability to report their charge level. Irritatingly, they do nearly always have a voltmeter rigged up to some software to map voltage to charge remaining to drive a 'charge remaining' display on the device, and there are USB HID device classes for reporting charge levels to a host OS, but for some reason, powerstation manufacturers don't seem to have an interest in making a powerstation that has the latter functionality. NUT does have a USB HID backend, which means that it can monitor and shut down a system if they'd expose it. I'd really prefer the ability to treat one of these as a laptop-style battery, as Linux (as well as other OSes) have the ability to hibernate on low battery. On Linux, these show up as /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*, and there's lots of software to display charge information and act based on low levels...but AFAICT from looking around the kernel, there is no way to get the kernel to deal with a USB HID device reporting remaining charge like this as a BAT device.

    • Computer power supplies can only smooth out so much of an interruption in their power. Computers rely on something on the order of a 10 millisecond transfer time after AC goes out until the UPS needs to be running full-tilt. searches ATX PSUs apparently are only required to operate for 16 milliseconds without power. Other hardware attached may or may not actually deal well with interruptions, but obviously the shorter the transfer time, the better. It looks like line-interactive UPSes tend to do something like 3-6 milliseconds. The problem is that a lot of powerstations have a transfer time in excess of this.

    There are some LFP UPSes now, but these have their own disadvantages. They tend to be fairly pricey, and the batteries are often not replaceable, which means that unlike the old lead-acid UPSes, when the battery dies (which will take longer than with a lead-acid battery), the whole device is also going to the landfill.

    And lastly, you have the problem that while lead-acid batteries are pretty mature and prices are pretty stable, LFP battery prices are coming down (and sodium-ion might start competing with them for fixed batteries). If batteries are cheaper in the future, waiting means a better deal.

    I don't currently run a UPS on my systems (though I have in the past). I kind of decided that if I'm going to run a UPS, I'm probably going to just bite the bullet and use the combination of a traditional lead-acid UPS and an LFP powerstation, with the UPS plugged into the powerstation. In that configuration, the powerstation provides provides the longer-running power, and the UPS deals with short transfer time and warning computer systems that power is about to go out. This isn't perfect, because (a) your computing devices can't see the remaining charge on the powerstation in an outage (b) at some point, one still has to toss the LFP powerstation, and (c) there's a little extra hardware involved. However, it also has a number of benefits:

    • Lead-acid UPSes pretty much always have replaceable batteries. One can keep the UPS around, though the batteries will have to be periodically replaced.

    • The UPS will provide time for the system to shut down.

    • UPSes are designed specifically for this, and have short transfer times. You don't need to worry the way one might about a powerstation having marginal transfer time.

    • You can get a lot of AC-related functionality in UPSes, like online capability (which will clean up the power, if you want), which isn't generally available in powerstations.

    • You can upgrade the "powerstation", even (if you want) doing a build-your-own thing with separate cells and an inverter and charge controller (which is generally more cost-effective for larger systems) down the line. These discrete-component systems are also a lot easier to provide human monitoring of remaining charge, since you can pick the components (and worst case, all you need to do is connect a voltage sensor that can talk to a computer to it), though they don't integrate as nicely off-the-shelf with something like NUT as do traditional UPSes.

    I'm not saying that this UPS+separate-battery-system is the only route to take, but I spent some time banging my head on it, and wanted to share if anyone else is similarly thinking about the same thing -- that there may be a good argument to have a traditional UPS and some kind of separate battery system.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

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    More specs / details available upon request.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    Re: the cabling up top there, there's some Reddit subreddit devoted solely to people showing off their spiffy cable-routing.

    searches

    Might be:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/CableManagement/top/?sort=top&t=all

    Though that looks like in-PC-case cabling. I thought that it dealt more with network cables.

    searches more

    Ah. I think this:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/cableporn/top/?sort=top&t=all

    It looks like we do have a !cableporn@lemmy.world, but basically nobody is posting.

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  • [+] 20 points 7 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    What kinda monitor arm is that? I have one for a lil monitor I have but it uses a clamp on the top and bottom of the screen instead of screwing in. I’m looking for one that doesn’t stress the screen with so much pressure!

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    βœ… Rackmounted

    ❌ Professional

    What front end are using for your apps? Looks nice.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Built a year ago, didn't change anything but drives since. PCengine APU OpnSense, two Proxmox cluster hosts, one mini PC NAS with JBOD. All DIY.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Did someone ask for jank, dust, and cables?

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

    Love this thread, here's my contribution

    Just a pi4B and some external drives for Linux ISOs

    edit : they resting on a piece of foam to reduce vibrations

    Bonus pic of the zigbee dongle for Home Assistant

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I bought a 16U rack this year to organize stuff a bit. Zigbee dongle is still installed exactly like this. I'm not convinced there's a better solution.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You may get better signal by not folding the antenna.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Oh! So you mean pointing it downward? Would you mind explain how that works? I'm clueless when it comes to these things

    Some context, the house is on two levels and this is level 0. The ceiling above is level 1. Also we're on the edge of the house not the center, the tip of the antenna is pointing towards the center

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Still busy building it. Have a few more parts to print, like the back trim and plug holder, and I need to remove the protective plastic from the aluminum sheets.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Love it, i'll probably end up doing something like that with a few HP elitedesk.

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  • Thanks! I made it from some scrap pieces of wood from my IKEA headboard, aluminium extrusions and some aluminium sheets, then just 3D printed trim and fittings.

    I was lucky and got a good deal on some ram, so each has 24gb.

    Its supposed to be my kubernetes homelab. My actual server is hidden in the electrical box in my apartment.

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