In lieu of trees and shade, I've been told (by a woman that was almost 100 years old) that during a really miserable heat wave, (she hated being too hot) get into a basement or anyplace that has a first level that is in - not on - the ground.
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Anything that doesn't kill you brings you closer to death in some way if it is hurtful.
Heatwaves push EVERYBODY closer to the edge and for many elderly and people with health issues the edge was already right there.
I don't care if a city can claim technically zero heat deaths in the immediate aftermath of a heatwave, people die indirectly from the pure body stress of it excaberating other pre-existing issues and the impact doesn't disappear the next day.
Anything that doesn't kill you brings you closer to death in some way if it is hurtful.
Uhhh exercise can be hurtful (muscle soreness) and I'm sure we can find other examples
Not that I disagree with the rest of your post. I love a good sauna, but the joy of it is that it ends when I get out (and maybe jump into a pile of snow). A heat wave is just... Taxing
I love it when OP adds their own clarification in the square brackets to de-clickbait a title
Hasn't it been like 20 years since Afghanistan was digging anticipatory mass graves before summer because of the expected number of routine deaths that would be caused by the heat?
We've been in the middle of the dystopian climate catastrophe for decades now. It's amazing some people haven't noticed.
heatwaves have always wiped out people haven’t they?
This is talking about the weather conditions at which a person is guaranteed to die if they are outside for six hours in the shade (or at night).
Previously climate scientists said this would happen at a wet bulb temperature^1^ of 35 Celsius, theoretically enough to prevent a sweat-drenched human body from overheating. However, research has demonstrated the threshold is lower and doesn't perfectly follow a single wet bulb temperature. And the scientific article that the news article is about shows these conditions have already occurred several times, when it was previously thought this threshold had not been breached yet.
Of course people can find shelter in an air conditioned buildings, underground, or under a forest canopy. But billions of people do not have access to these options. At some point they can either die or migrate, and this research shows that point requires less climate change than previously predicted. Combined with climate change occurring at a faster rate than the median expectation, mass climate migration is coming a lot sooner than expected.
^1^: the temperature a thermometer indicates if the bulb is wet. If the air is dry, evaporation will cause this temperature to be lower than the air temperature, which is also the temperature a thermometer indicates if the bulb is dry.
Yeah, when they happen, and above a certain threshold.
The problem is that the "when" is becoming far more common and the baseline is rising ever closer to that "certain threshold."
Droughts and heat vs cold periods and floods.
You get a pummeling of that? TKO.
What we have gotten here have killed double digit folks. usually elderly or homeless. won't take much higher to move this into triple digits I think. Just going to get worse form there and this is a good place. Remember when where to go to avoid climate change was all the rage and then the pacific northwest went on fire.
You mean digits = deaths? We have absolutely killed that many and the WHO estimates near a half million heat related deaths. Or are you referring to a limited locale?
Remember how they solved this in that one book that starts with the sole survivor of a massive heat dome?
That book was The Ministry for the Future (2020) by Kim Stanley Robinson and the solution involved assassinations at scale of oil and gas industry executives as well as destruction by drone of all fossil fuel tankers and egregiously polluting cargo ships. Also, massive releases of sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere, aggressive immobilization of Antarctic glaciers via water pumps, and the onboarding of all central banks to rebase currency according to how much CO₂ you can fix into the ground instead of capitalism's belief in endless future growth. It is a very optimistic story, but one we'll have to carry out eventually in some form to at least the degree described in the book.
That was a surprisingly grisly start to an otherwise extremely disappointing book.
Kim Stanley Robinson is elderly now, time for him to put down the quill and pick up gardening. I'm constantly surprised that the people who are the most pro-tech and colonize space and "explore that" are never for the #1 most important thing: anti-aging and life extension research.
Careful, when I mention this I get downvotes and called a Doomer.
Look back on this moment fondly: the time before "wet bulb" became widely known...
If you haven't yet, I suggest reading 'The Ministry for the Future' by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's quite a realistic and sobering take on the near future that is to come, and how we could have a chance at turning things around. The entire plot starts with a heatwave.
a few years I got satellite data and calculated the wet bulb temperature of everywhere. some places already experience wet bulb temps of over 60°C. it's only going to get worse.
imagine a heatwave that will kill everyone who cant manage cooling themselves.
I think it would take an incident that kills a bunch of people that effect global economies for anyone care.
Everyone dies in a small Vietnamese town that makes t-shirts on the cheap. It wouldn't be the people that died that would matter, it would be the stop of cheap production. If the work can be moved elsewhere, their deaths are unimportant.
The world is a meat grinder for the rich and powerful. Eventually most of us will die because of it, the trajectory has been that way for so long. We did stop the hole in the ozone, but only because we developed technology to reduce factories producing CO2 not because we were willing to turn them off.
that won't even make the news, the real consequences will be mass refugee crisis, and the press will ignore the reason, that we made their countries uninhabitable.
CO2 didn't cause the hole in the ozone. It was CFCs. And it wasn't any huge endeavor to get rid of them because we already had relatively cheap, readily available alternatives. CO2 was harder to get away from for a long time, but there's less and less excuse these days.
I know I will be sent to work at that temperature anyway. Adapt or die.
How about we adapt by organizing to force governments to pass genuinely good workplace regulations around limits to working in the heat?
Ok, deal!
I just need 250k drones, and about 20 million grenades.
Or we can do things the economic way, which won't get us bombed. Those are the only ways you can reliably change anything. They are all different forms of force. I prefer economic for obvious reasons.
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