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Lol, get fucked Google (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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[–] 140 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Personalized ads are off
Timeline is off

I see this as an absolute win, keep not knowing my age!

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago

    Right. Safe Search doesn't matter because Google Search has been outclassed for a while now. There's no drawbacks... other than the fact that apparently OP gets told about this every single day.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    They will nuke your account after 14-30 days if you don't comply.

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    • [–] 42 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    My Google account itself is over 18. I wonder if that's verification enough.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    it could be passed down from your parents, fairly common to register emails for your unborn children, otherwise the cool ones might be taken by the time they are concieved and in need of an email. personally, i have reserved emails for many generations to come, my eventual grandchildren will have dope emails

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    How do you know the names of your unborn grandchildren of your unborn children?

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    • [–] 66 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not your problem. Call tech support.

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    • [–] 29 points 7 months ago

    I have to work with Microslop at work, i feel your pain

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    [–] 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    At least here in Canada it is illegal to share employees personal information without their consent, and I don't consent to giving my id to anyone. They can't fire you for not consenting. We can't do business with any company that does their customer support through Discord as a result. Discord fucked themselves so hard in the corporate world. If it requires personal id EU can't do business on it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I don't trust Carney to respect that.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    The responsibility of government is split between the federal government and the provinces. The conmen and postmedia have convinced you that the prime minister, the leader of the ruling part, is the President. We don't have a President. Everything they have told you to get mad at Trudeau for was probably a responsibility of the province, and you fell for it. Labour, Education, and Healthcare are all responsibilities of the provinces. Next time you make a comment at least do the research and understand what you are saying.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The Privacy Act and The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA) are Federal. Carny has shown he is willing to trample on our rights and is pushing for a majority to make future attempts easier.

    Being critical of Carney is not an endorcsment of PP. Holding Carney accountable won't put PP into power.

    Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Trudeau by the end but still better then Harper, PP or Carney.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    It's specifically a labour law that regulates employers. In Quebec it is Law 25. So I guess get mad at François Lagault? This was an easy 20 second Google search to know the answer. People constantly say epically stupid shit to me that could be prevented by a 20 second Google search. Stop being that person.

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    • [+] 57 points 7 months ago (20 children)
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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    I'm de-Googling right now, and I'm trying out Kagi for search. It's paid, but so far I'm liking it. No ads, and very customizable in that you can boost or lower results from specific sites, among other things.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Honest question: if you're paying for Kagi, how is that different than using a credit card for verification with Google? It would seem to me that you're willingly connecting your identity in either case. Maybe i'm wrong.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    Cheat code: Have your employer pay for it. ;)

    A more serious answer is, you could use an anonymous payment card, or apparently crypto as well, if that's your threat model. I'm not looking for total anonymity, but theoretically paying for the service means you are a customer and not the product. No ads/paid search rankings, no tracking, no selling your data to third parties. Yes, I do use uBlock Origin, I could block ads on DDG or whatever, but that doesn't seem like a sustainable business model. I'm kinda rethinking the services I use and how much they are worth to me. I'm not here to sell you on it, I'm on day two of my Kagi subscription, but so far I like what I see.

    Edit: I don't think I really answered your question. Kagi isn't in a position to be an identity verifier, and it doesn't look like they have any interest or requirement to do that. It is looking more and more like Google/Meta/et al will be policing the Internet, and I just want no part of it. Google will absolutely sell your data to third parties. Kagi says they will never do so. I don't know how they'd prove that, but I hope they are true to their word.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I'm a proponent of privacy for the sake of privacy and as a right. Anonymity is the only way to ensure privacy. Seeking privacy does not inherently imply nefarious intent (not that you explicitly said it does). Sounds like Kagi wouldn't be a good choice for me. And that's OK. Thanks for answering my Q!

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I added some more context in an edit to my comment.

    I agree with you about privacy being a right. It's extremely difficult to have 100% anonymity, and I think that's part of the calculus when deciding who we trust our data with. Google 100% already knows my identity, and therefore they shouldn't need to collect any further identity verification documents "papers, please"-style. Maybe it's more of a protest on my part, and I'm sure it'll be just as effective as one, but I don't want to participate in this identity police crap.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Thanks for the heads up about the edit.

    Certainly 100% anonymity isnt possible, even with a VPN. Best practice is always dont do anything online that you wouldnt want attached to your real identity/life.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    It sucks, there's inherently a trade-off between anonymity and participating on the Internet. Here's my step-by-step plan to staying anonymous on the Internet:

    • Acquire a Thinkpad T480 with cash. Meet somewhere without cameras. Don't drive past traffic or Flock or Ring cameras on the way. Leave your phone at home.
    • Flash libreboot, install Qubes OS
    • Spoof your Wi-Fi adapter MAC address
    • Crack your neighbor's Wi-Fi password
    • Operate over TOR to exploit machines and build a botnet around the world under different jurisdictions
    • Be active during set hours to appear as if you operate in a different region
    • Build proxychains across your botnet
    • Don't do anything at all on the Internet because everything now requires an account and identity
    • Go outside and touch grass

    Edit: I don't know how to format.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Man I don’t know if this is a parody but you’re inconveniencing yourself to an extreme that doesn’t make any sense especially when the EU is in negotiations to happily hand out all our biometric data to the US anyway.

    I am all for privacy but let’s be honest it is a total sham nowadays. Go de-google to your hearts content, i did the same and I couldn’t be happier (you just get treated better when you’re not the product, funnily enough), just understand you’re not really protecting yourself from anything when governments can, and do, just negotiate your data behind your back anyway.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Thank you. It's a long process to migrate all these accounts, I have hundreds of accounts listed in Bitwarden, and I'm going through them one at a time. I'm moving my email to my own domain that I've had email hosting setup on for a while now. At least I shouldn't need to do this again as I "own" the domain.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Lmao at specifying no ai ddg

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I mean to be real, every search engine in the world has or will implement an AI quick search feature.

    I feel so bad for ddg getting absolutely reamed for simply trying to innovate. They have one of the best most private ai implementations yet, and for that innovation they got nothing but hate.

    If you don’t like quick search whatever, but ddg’s implementation of it is great.

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    • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Ai generate an adult face, display it on a display, point camera at it, "selfie", ???, profit

    Scratch that. Draw a face. See if that works. I bet you could draw a face well enough to fool the detection software.

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    • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I got these as well. Can't wait to set up my own Peertube instance and then I can delete my google account

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    [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    Since porno sites are limited to 18+ people, I suggest you could authenticate yourself by providing the link to a very specific type of videos

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    • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I hate that we live in a world where a selfie is now an official form of ID. My bank wanted one the other day to use their app so I just deleted it lol, get fucked

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    [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    just upload the McLovin id from Superbad as your id. problem solved

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    [–] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I'm so sorry. :(

    My workplace hasn't forces Big Evil upon us yet, but I think it's just a matter of time. Whenever that happens, I'll buy the cheapest off brand phone for that purpose.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Work should buy you the phone 🤷

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Got a job at a BYOD workplace, so I ended up having to repurpose my old devices as my work devices. Fortunately I had many from my hoard to choose from. Still get taken aback when I realize that most of my coworkers have all their work stuff connected to their personal devices without a second thought.

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    • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Speaking of Google: has anybody noticed how unbearably slow Google sites are lately?

    I almost never use Google search anymore. But I hit it the other day because I couldn't find some really obscure kernel error message, and the damn thing froze Firefox. And it did so repeatedly and consistently after restarting the browser, until I killed almost all Google scripts in uBO.

    The same "experience" can be felt on any Google site, like Map.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I've heard they intentionally ruin the experience for Firefox users, but my canon is that google engineers are simply incompetent. If they want to prove me wrong, they can fix it.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    YouTube definitely does that. Im on Brave, been for years, and in the past year clicking on videos makes them load with several seconds delay, with a popup in the bottom left along the lines of "Experiencing interruptions? Find out why" and the help page it takes you to if you click it, basically gives the default reasons of "youre internet may be slow", but IIRC it also includes the reason that you are using ad blocking scripts

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    [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Take a 'selfie' of a 4k video of a talking person, beats it. Or if you have access to a paid gen AI service I would expect a high detail AI fake to work, although it doesn't work with low detail.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Couldn't it get flagged and manually reviewed leading to a ban?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The selfie is 3rd party so I doubt it. I did it to my main account when it showed up on YouTube a while ago and I've had no issues. However it works is too stupid to know I'm taking a photo of a laptop screen even though it's unbelievably obvious to anyone with eyes.

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