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[–] 71 points 7 months ago (20 children)

And that's why everyone is sailing again.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (16 children)

    Are they though? I see a whole lot of talk in these threads every time and I’m not convinced. Feels like a lot of hot air

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    I went back to full arr stack and usenet when it became too fragmented and unreasonably priced.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Is there enough good content to make it worthwhile? I haven't downloaded a movie in months, the latest offerings are so unappealing.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

    Find better sources. If you're not seeing something you want in the places you know about, put in more effort. You're not gonna find shit from a google search.

    As for myself, I hopped on Usenet and ditched torrents almost entirely. Far better selection of pretty much everything.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I do not get how us3n3t is still operating. Amazing.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Us3n3t is wild for sure. I mean they've wrote the textbook on how staying obscure is the ultimate approach to success with most things. And it just functions. Plus the need for a bit of knowledge acts as almost an intelligence test to keep the morons (and the people who can wreck it) out.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'm even more lazier than that. Pirate subscription. It's still a subscription, but I'd argue the 10 dollars a month is worth my time to type an obscure tv show I've suddenly remembered into my TV, with one eye open at 2am. I've got nothing against a subscription or two, but I certainly am getting sick and tired of like a dozen of them.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    That's my take. I subscribe to the whole "piracy is a convenience issue" mindset. If you're gonna make me pay for 12 different subscriptions just so I can have access to a few decent shows, I'm cancelling everything and just pirating it. Fucking greedy-ass companies are never happy until they get all the revenue.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    The source isn't the issue, it's the quality of the art. I used to download TV shows, haven't seen anything worth watching besides the odd episode of Abbott Elementary.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    That or just sure numbers. It kind of feels like when we got satellite as a kid. I spent two days of scrolling the guide before realizing I hadn't watched a single thing. I was like great, we now have 500 channels of TV, but my life still sucks.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I think most people now are too tired with the world, and also tech illiterate, that those on the high seas are dwindling except for the hardcore. Hopefully gen z and alpha change that.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    All it's going to take is a recession, and then it'll be back with a vengeance. Because guess what's first on the chopping block when money gets tight?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I mean the convenience of it all would say no, but these services have become so enshitified, they pull content constantly, you need to have a billion of different ones, and now they are putting stuff like Atmos and 4k content behind higher pay subs. Plus ads now too, which is infuriating.

    So yeah I mean I'm sailing more than I have in the last decade. Because streaming is now just cable except I have to individually subscribe and not just have one subscription (which you just know is around the corner and then it will fully be cable 2.0).

    I'm getting mighty sick of spotify too. The great thing about Spotify when it came out was convenience obviously, but moreso was that you didn't have jammed full iPods or your phone wasn't plugged up with music. But my phone's like 256gb now, that holds a shitton of music, it ain't no 8gb iPod. So barriers removed. And I wasn't pirating basically at all the past decade either. So they only have themselves all to thank now. Solely. Greedy fucks.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago

    It will still cost me the same amount 🏴‍☠️

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  • [+] 58 points 7 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago

    My piracy continues.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    "Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product."

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    DAE remember Kim's Video in NYC? The main store was 4 floors of rentable media in a skinny former tenement building on St. Marks with a yellow/black facade. They had every movie imaginable from all over the world mostly in DVD and VHS formats in nondescript black cases, sorted by nationality and then director. You'd pick a case and bring it to the art students manning the desk, they'd judge your tastes without subtlety then go into the vault in the back and return with the media. Members only, no more than two rentals at a time, strict late fees. Friends and I were there every day or so rotating out an endless stream of cinema.

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    [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    This is all because I never returned those DVDs in 2006, isn't it.

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    [–] 57 points 7 months ago (26 children)

    Do people expect the price to go down?
    I'm confused

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  • [–] 42 points 7 months ago (22 children)

    Do people expect the price to go down?

    Actually yeah that would be great. After all, Netflix is raking in more profit than ever (this chart represents earnings after expenses are removed):

    That's billions. Billions of dollars every year that's just.. extra. Where the fuck are they wasting all this money that requires them to raise prices instead of lowering them?

    I mean, we all know it goes to funding the Epstein class and making the world a worse place for everyone else, but it should go towards making their service better and cheaper.

    Let's stop normalizing the predatory nature of capitalism, and instead be surprised when people don't expect better.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    The profit metric they look at isn't profit itself, but actually year-over-year profit increases.

    That's the imaginary money line that tells shareholders and execs how much the actual money line has gone up since last year. When a big company says they're operating "in the red", they're still making ungodly amounts of profit - just not as much as last year.

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  • [+] -14 points 7 months ago (20 children)

    If people invested $1.50/mo into NFLX stock every month in addition to paying the subscription, it would have net out to be free over the past 10 years.

    I’d you can’t beat them, join them. It’s a public investment market.

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    you can’t beat them, join them

    Saruman was not supposed to be a role model.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago

    Saruman wasn’t supposed to be a role model, true. But neither was the guy complaining about rising prices from his couch while the free market delivered infinite content on demand.

    I can hate the game and offer advice on how to play at the same time.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    This is high risk though. The company could underperform or be unexpectedly overcome by competition. Also when should one exit the position to reap that bargain?

    This should also be applied to all publicly traded companies that one uses and enjoys, but is that appropriate? I guess that’s basically just a prompt for people to invest in the market broadly, as they should be anyway.

    I’m going to think on this more.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (14 children)

    Could you elaborate? I don't really understand the stock market and don't see how investing in them would make it free.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Don't bother, this is terrible advice. The idea I guess being "if you bought some of their stock each month, it's gone up enough that if you sold it at some point, it would cover the subscription".

    As if that's a thing people can know ahead of time and use for decision-making. The only people who try to do stuff like this routinely get fleeced by "the market". Random average consumers are not out here using stocks to their advantage in this way, it's not a thing.

    It's very similar to saying "if you just throw X dollars into a casino every month, Y thing becomes free!" - no, no it doesn't lmao. It could, maybe, but of course it never does cuz that's not what a casino is for, it's for other people to profit, not you. Stock market is surprisingly similar.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    This is terrible advice.

    Investing in companies whose products you enjoy is a very reasonable and successful strategy of investing.

    The entire stock market is not a casino where random shit happens. There are conservative investments too.

    Are you trying to prevent people from enjoying the fruits of capitalism? I don’t understand why you’d do that.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (6 children)

    Your comment above implied an active investment strategy, which is for losers and suckers.

    I'm not saying the "random" nature of the casino is the similar part. I'm saying the baked-in way the average Joe loses in comparison with the casino operators - that's the similar part.

    Either you're advocating active investment ("I have a hot hand today at the casino! Or any day I choose cuz I know how to do it!"), or you're saying "well a conservative investment strategy is a useful thing for most folks" - which has fuck-all to do with paying for a specific monthly expense? Namely the Netflix subscription from your comment?

    Your original comment was fucking stupid and misleading, now you're just doing the thing where you instead say fairly reasonable stuff that isn't half as controversial. Take the L on your bad take, is what it is, apologize for it or just be quiet.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    I disagree. I think my original comment was spot on. If you find a product that you like, investing in the company that makes it is an informed strategy.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    For one thing, by today's standards that kinda stuff sounds like the investment advice equivalent of "just walk into businesses, give them a firm handshake, and ask for a job". Anachronistic to the point of sounding like satire.

    Market value is untethered from business fundamentals, has been for a long time, anyone telling you otherwise can go listen to Jim Kramer or whatever. You as a consumer thinking a product is good has fuck-all to do with a company's stock price (and therefore, fuck-all to do with that stock being a good buy - anything that you've observed that happens to line up is closer to happy coincidence than "informed strategy").

    And regardless, the comment I'm talking about had you claiming one could simply offset Netflix's rising price by buying their stock - there's just so, so many things to disagree with in that statement. I chose the one that the person who seemed to take that seriously needed to hear, so as not to burden the thread with my ideas about all of it.

    I can do that now, though, if you really insist.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Sure am happy to listen. Fundamentals always bubble and burst but in the long run, products consumers like do well. That’s my experience.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Have you ever rigorously compared your own picks, against having bought a comparable index fund instead, making sure to account for e.g. expense ratios and other fees, and taking the long view as you're describing? I would imagine your picks look successful in isolation, as in your positions improved, but it's very unlikely you did better than picking an index fund that minimizes costs and decision-making over that time instead. That's one of the big tricks - active management, even if magically chosen well, suffers from higher fees (no matter the performance, lmao) - you get stable (fixed) higher costs to overcome before profit, with a less stable potential for profit. Additionally, we can talk about order prioritization, e.g. where your broker (and then theirs) reorder transactions, using info you lack, to maximize their own profit, literally at your expense - another fun trick. There's more, but lo and behold, consumer tends to lose over time while brokerages mathematically can't - casino shit.

    Aside from that, the idea of offsetting or paying for a product's price increase - by buying stock in the company - felt deliberately misleading, hence the initial hostility / severity of response. The average consumer of investments has zero hope of trading profitably in that kind of timescale, and were you to say "well I mean over the long-term it's like it paid for the price increase" - that's just hand-wavy to the point of disingenuous nonsense. Okay I guess the slice of dairy in my own portfolio's index fund is paying for milk getting more expensive and everything's just fine over the long term then? No one would accept that, it's a bad premise, no matter how I try to consider it.

    One of the more egregious parts though is the way the suggestion seems to reward a company for abusing its own consumers, in a self-reinforcing loop. In an era where we suuuure need less self-reinforcing loops of abuse! You see that right? "It's okay if they keep raising their price, I'll just keep buying their stock, that way when they win, I win!" - you can imagine the signal that gives the company, right, should others do so? Ya know, the big publicly traded company, where the decision makers notably care about nothing, not even basic human decency, more than the stock price and leap at anything that promises to make line go up? Why would you advocate to be fucked like that lmao?!

    And finally, how exactly do all of us manage to benefit from the fruits of capitalism in the way you're describing elsewhere? If you're selling your stock someday at a profit (Netflix price increase defeated, huzzah), someone is either getting a bad deal (your buyer will be unable to do the same later, they will take a loss) - or prices just go up forever. The first is not what you described as all enjoying fruits, the second is...obviously impossible (though not far from how the system actually behaves / pretends!).

    I didn't even start on the way the current administration / crime family has dropped the mask and openly manipulates markets, through large and frequent crimes like well-timed lying up through some of the biggest crimes available, literally triggering gigantic global events, as well as having established multiple income streams for open bribery. I didn't talk about the clear bubble that is present valuations and what always happens IF the invisible stress limit for the bubble is breached [edit: well, you kind of did, I guess indicating that in your view good picks recover]. I didn't talk about how the petrodollar has a real risk of unraveling altogether, which would entirely reshape all US economic everything. I didn't talk about the ethics of it all, what it means for all American high earners to have their savings and futures locked into this hideous machine that merely exploits them, while ruining and killing the rest of the world.

    I'm trying to choose where to stop ranting, but again, what ya said struck me as severely, disastrously wrong. And just extremely dated, it's advice from the same era that produced the "single income of almost any kind buying a life of ease for an entire (specific kind of) family" anomaly. As in, before monsters like Jack Welch came in and "innovated" techniques by which he discovered you can make a stock's value go up by actually closing a profitable manufacturing plant, even one that happens to form the economic engine of an entire small town. If it's not profitable enough, compared with others, well maybe that's a bad sign and the shrewd business exec is better off cutting it loose before it becomes a drain!

    And other such pearls of wisdom and value, fruits of capitalism I guess, from the slavering wolves. Your simplistic take just functions as bait to have others financially raped and abused yet further.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    my picks

    I have retirement money strictly in retirement funds. Other money in index funds and non-US currency baskets, and I play with call options when I know more than the market.

    My suggestion was more a thought exercise for the reader, yet genuine advice at the same time. We love to complain about capitalism, but we are often complaining about it in its current form, a post 1971 era filled with ever increasing corruption, which is the greater problem.

    felt deliberately misleading

    It wasn’t intended as such, I still think it’s a valid point.

    Why would you advocate to be fucked like that lmao?!

    We are being fucked either way. We take it up the ass from big tech constantly - so why not buy stock in knee pads and condoms if we have no option but to take it? It’s all just a waiting game for the music to stop anyhow.

    current administration / crime family

    It’s all been crooks for 50 years. They get more and more brazen over time. At this point it’s the entirety of DC in on it. The current admin is certainly more brazen than the prior - but I don’t think he’s any more crooked than the rest. He’s just dumber than the rest.

    Your simplistic take just functions as bait to have others financially raped and abused yet further

    I think you’re simplifying in the other direction. I’m not wrong that investing in good growth companies rewards you. I’m not wrong that identifying good companies can often be as simple as “what company’s products do you use”.

    You’re taking the issue of corruption in the markets and making that the basis for refusing to invest in markets

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I say you're underselling my position entirely with that last sentence, in a way that borders on uncharitable. Boiling down today's extreme escalation in corruption (by my measure) into just garden-variety "corruption" is dishonest (by my measure). And I never claimed to refuse to invest in markets, nor recommended such for others, in fact I make it pretty damn clear how I think most folks are best served BY specific investment choices. But nonetheless your phrasing is at least broadly in line with the spirit of my points, yes.

    I'm claiming there are at least 2 classes of entity in the market, you and I are in the "get fucked every which way" class. Doesn't mean there isn't money to be made in a broad sense, even for that class, and it seems like we agree on that pretty solidly. We disagree from there, kind of increasingly so, the further we go from those broad points, and it doesn't sound like we are going to get any closer to one another's POV by further discussion.

    [Edit: to respond specifically about your "why not buy knee pads and condoms" - because of the nature of opportunity cost, and the nature of finding one's own dignity worth preserving, as I talked about in my "encouraging abusive loops" note above. You don't HAVE to be up in there, trousers loosened, defenses applied, ready to go. Ya could just do other things with your money.

    Again, my own is where my mouth is - I largely exited US stock positions somewhat recently due to a timely combination of factors, some old and some new, overlapping with the ones I'm discussing here. The lovely thing is - I'm no longer tethered to this gross beast that promises and delivers ruin, for everyone slightly below my rung on this idiot ladder (with the delivered ruin getting more inescapable and more omnipresent, the farther one descends those rungs...).

    And of course ya never addressed the "how can everyone enjoy the fruits of capitalism?" parts, and how that idea can't really hold up to scrutiny.]

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    By investing some extra money with them, you’re owning a piece of the company.

    If/when the company goes up in value, your shares in the company are worth more. The inverse is true as well.

    If you’re in the US, check out brokers like Charles Schwab or robinhood. You don’t have to have thousands of dollars to get started.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Thank you for the explanation, I get it now!

    And thanks for the advice but I wouldn't do that... I don't believe investing is ethical.

    The company you invest in has to turn your money into more money somehow, and more often than not that 'somehow' is by fucking over workers, nature, or customers.

    I know you only meant to help and I could be wrong, but I do believe we should try to prevent people from 'enjoying the fruits of capitalism' as you put it.
    Or atleast let them know that capitalism doesn't grow fruits and all you can do is enjoy the fruits of someone else's labor.

    There's no such thing as free money, and 90% of the world population would be a lot better off if people would quit trying to get some.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Investing is simply loaning capital to someone so they can build and pay for things which generate production.

    It’s like if your town wanted a park, but you didn’t have the money, you’d borrow it from someone and pay interest. You’re borrowing from investors, who lend to you with expectation of yielding extra for them assuming the financial risk. That scenario is more like a municipal bond, but similar scenario for the stock market.

    If you want to start a farm, or buy a house, or build an apartment building for your town, you’d need investors to pull together capital to pay for it. In most small business scenarios, the investor is a bank. But for some small businesses starting up, who need large amounts of capital and are high risk, they raise money through others in exchange for a piece (shares) of the business. Over time, the business if successful would go public - which means opening up those shares for the general public to trade.

    I understand the “people shouldn’t make money” argument, but it’s a proven effective way to grow. Its flaws seem centered around when politicians are in bed with the investors. Then crooked shit happens. We have systems in place to protect and prevent, but they simply aren’t working in the United States anymore due to widespread corruption of our government.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for taking the time.

    I do understand the principle of investing and agree on some level that it can be a good thing for starting a business.

    You'll surely agree though, that his is not how most see investments, and not what you were describing either;
    Netflix does not need more help getting started.

    People who invest in that type of business do I purely with speculative intentions.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    that his is not how most see investments

    Sure they see the retail investor side of it, business do good, number go up.

    not what you were describing either;
    Netflix does not need more help getting started

    Netflix isn’t raising money anymore. They are in publicly traded growth mode. If you want to own a slice of Netflix, you can buy it. No different than buying an interest in the ice cream shop up the road from you (if the current owner wants to part with a portion of the company in exchange for cash). You buy an interest in a company because you think the people that work for it do well and the opportunity for growth exists.

    When a publicly traded company is finished growing and instead changes its strategy to simply making income - it starts paying dividends. For instance, General Mills, Pfizer, and Verizon are some examples. All of them are paying dividends equal to about 5-6% of their value. So if you think they’re good companies, you can make more interest on your money by purchasing shares of those companies whom pay nearly double what a high interest bank account does (with added risk!)

    People who invest in that type of business do I purely with speculative intentions.

    I mean, in my income based stock example - sure they’re speculating that the company won’t die, but they aren’t speculating on massive growth. Just steady income.

    I would argue that many speculate buy simply holding USD vs Gold - you assume the United States won’t default on debt or make money printer go crazy, devaluing your investment in the “good faith” of the us govt.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I don't mind paying for things, but it was already ridiculous. This is too much even for me.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    👏Line👏 must👏 go👏 up!!👏📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Apropos to absolutely nothing, what countries do y’all use when torrenting with a vpn?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I need to go return some videotapes/DVDs.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    https://hydrahd.io/

    Has more selection and doesn't even ask for payment info.

    Anyone subscribing to media they could be getting for free needs to be laughed and pointed at.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    not my problem

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