I thought the point of Christianity was that everyone deserves mercy?
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Not sure that’s how Christianity is supposed to work…
glances at the history of Christianity
The saddest thing about the history of Christianity is just how juxtaposed it is to the actual theology contained in the new testament. Anytime in history a movement actually starts to apply the actual lessons of Christianity they seem to get hunted down by their fellow Christians.
My dad's side of the family got kicked out of Europe towards the end of the bohemian reformation, and then got kicked out of colonial georgia for accepting slaves and native Americans into the church.
Jesus is a marketing mascot. Expecting the Christian religion to behave according to the teachings of Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to behave according to the teachings of the Quik Bunny.
There isn't a religion on the planet that hasn't been manipulated and misconstrued to encourage violence against others.
"a way of thinking". It's not just religion that gets people blood thirsty. It is human nature unfortunately. We need to rise above our animal selves
Yeah, but when a way of thinking is based from the outset around letting authority figures dictate your beliefs it becomes a hell of a lot easier to manipulate. Other ideologies have to at least pretend to be logically coherent. Religion doesn't have that limitation.
Other ideologies do not have to pretend to be logically coherent. Phrenology and Eugenics were fairly widely accepted by colonial era Europeans and had no logical coherence. White supremacy continues to be a worldview/ideology for a not so small minority even today and has no real logical coherence.
Any ideology can gain widespread adoption if it fits with what people want to believe.
Maybe not how it's supposed to work, but it is how it's always worked.
It is for most "Christians".
To be fair, the real ones some like this... But how many of those are left?
Oh man, he really wants to subject himself to that? Well good for him, he deserves no mercy
Don't cry when violence comes to your doorstep then, Petey.
This is a religious war for these people. They believe they are sending the next wave of the crusades.
Some years ago I'd seen studies showing a 'religiosity cycle' - war and strife drives people to religion, religion drives more war and strife - and I can't help but wonder if that's the goal here.
Well crusades always work out great. Let’s read about a famous one!
A boy began to preach in either France or Germany, claiming that he had been visited by Jesus, who instructed him to lead a crusade in order to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity. Through a series of portents and miracles, he gained a following of up to 30,000 children. He led his followers south towards the Mediterranean Sea, in the belief that the sea would part on their arrival, which would allow him and his followers to walk to Jerusalem. This did not happen. Instead, two French merchants promised to take some children across the sea to the Holy Land. However, the children were either taken to Tunisia where they were sold into slavery by the merchants, or shipwrecked on San Pietro Island off Sardinia.
Did he consider that if his prayer was granted, he'd get a lightning bolt right up his own ass?
Does this guy know anything about Jesus, at all?
I’m so sick of these fake Christian assholes.
Jesus? The guy who makes threats like these to any who oppose him? What a hideous, vile individual. He'd be a great roommate for Pol Pot, Stalin, or Kim Jong Il. Don't sanewash his brutality.
John 3:18
whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
John 3:36
whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.
Matthew 25:41–46
Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Matthew 13:41–42
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Regarding those who do not belong to His Kingdom)
None of those quotes actually call for people to be or celebrate violence though.

Nahum 1:2
God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
fake Christian
Try reading the Old Testament. You don't get to disown these people. They absolutely are Christians.
Okay but “Christian” includes the New Testament and the new covenant. That replaces a lot of the suffering/sacrafice/punishment based covenant in the Old Testament.
I’m not a theologian so I can’t argue good here. You kinda have Christ in your teachings and heart or you don’t.
Do I really need to quote Matthew 5:17-19again?
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And remember, those laws included explicitly outlined rules for how you should treat your slave.
Why the fuck is the Pentagon hosting a Christian service anyway?
As an aside, with as evil as they are, we should be calling them The Pentagram.
Don't put these weirdos in the same boat as satanists, who generally try to actually help the masses.
I think it's a logical extension of having chaplains in the armed forces. It makes sense, provided that there are services for other denominations including non-denominational. No idea if that's the situation or not.
"My god is the god of love and compassion, and if you don't believe in him, fuck you, I hope he kills you before I do."
I always loved getting Buddhism as a religion in Civilization. Then spreading it everywhere at the point of the sword.
YOU WILL ACCEPT PEACEFUL ENLIGHTENMENT, OR YOU WILL DIE!
Um... Buddhist nationalism is a thing. For example: https://radicalisationresearch.org/research/jerryson-2011-buddhist/
I mean... he has crusade tattoos on his chest. Tf did Americans expect?
He thinks he’s the cool kid. It’s in every expression.
He's the dumbass that peaked in high school.
Generous of you to suggest there ever was a peak. Guy's like this stay steady mid tier or below forever. Their anger is often a manifestation of coming to terms with that. I guarantee you this guy questions whether he's in over his head with some frequency and it's exactly his mediocrity that makes him push forward. I don't sense confidence from this guy at all. He's clearly been faking it for a long time and will probably continue to do so, hoping the rest of us don't see the insecurity and incompetence painted on his face every time he opens his mouth.
His words are antithetical to Jesus's teachings. Diametrically opposed even. Perhaps even a smidge Anti-Christ-ian to anyone with morals or brains or a shred of bravery to stand against this? Hmmm?
It irks me when people try and counter this kind of stuff by arguing that Jesus was all about love and peace and kum-bah-yah blah blah blah. Because
- Trying to mount arguments based on logic with these people is an exercise in futility
- If you've read the book, he kinda really wasn't
- His "teachings" are either the fanciful musings of some illiterate shepherds, or state-sanctioned propaganda, and either way, are kind of worthless from a philosophical or moral standpoint
- Most importantly, religion has absolutely no place in government, and that's what we should be saying every time something like "the monthly Pentagon Christian religious service, headed by one of the highest officials in the federal government" crops up in the news, instead of this pedantic attempt to paint Jesus as some peaceful figure
So, your argument is "he kinda really wasn't" peaceful and that it's more important to oppose religion in government then it is to say they are doing religion wrong?
Wow it must be hard to be so enlightened.
I mean, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's not hard at all to be enlightened enough to think religion and government have no business mixing lmao
it's more important to oppose religion in government then it is to say they are doing religion wrong?
That's just a non-fundamentalist position, surely?
It's the only rational position lol. There are like 40,000 different denominations of Christianity, telling any one of them that their version of "wrong" is worse than sisyphusian.
Similar to how the person I replied to thinks it doesn't matter if jesus opposed violence because religion shouldn't be in government, I believe the US government shouldn't exist so it's pointless to discuss if it should include religion or not 🤷♀️
There’s so many Christian’s that are going to Hell
Does anyone here read Dungeon Crawler Carl? I Uzi Jesus wouldn't carry this, but that was the first thing that came to mind.
Just like Jesus wanted!



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