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[–] 54 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

When I see all those christian pedo-nazis, if I were to believe in all this BS (which I fucking don't), Hell is for sure where I wanna end up. I don't want to spend eternity raping children and shooting people of color in paradise.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    And their music is gonna suuuuuuuuck

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  • [–] 47 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Religious fruit cakes need to be told what to do.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Love how the religeous claim certainty that THEIR instructions from God, and they all seem to justify their "grandad's" values as to when to break their own principles.

    Ie:

    Love thy neighbour but MY NEIGHBOR got a Windmill so I should be allowed to arson!

    If a thief takes your cloak, also give him your coat... but no socialism for anyone I dont know, they r all lazy bums

    Etc etc

    No chance any of this is u know who, or maybe just your ego? Oh no, you know cause a gut feeling and old folks said so

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    No chance any of this is u know who, or maybe just your ego? Oh no, you know cause a gut feeling and old folks said so

    In Evangelical circles, we refer to this as discernment. Discernment is great, it explains why the bible might be confusing to some people, why it might seem to definitely contradict itself, and why it seems to be so broadly open to interpretation. To navigate all of that, you don’t trust your evil sinful gut - you use Discernment

    It’s spoken about as if it is a super power you get when you become a Christian. Unfortunately, you don’t magically become discerning once you become a Christian, and plenty of people are just dumb.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    When I was a kid, one of my parents' friends had a fun idea she shared with us. She posed the thought that maybe all the different religions were real and the world was just a game of chess they were playing with us as pieces.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think we are a science experiment. Not limited to religion.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    I read a really fun new age book titled something like "the most attractive place in the universe". It was all kinds of woowoo psuedo-judeo-christian but there were fun ideas in it.

    What follows is a rough summary of some of those ideas an in no way represent my view of the cosmos.

    Stars are angels and solar radiation is the method of sending divine instructions to creation. Our sun is Lucifer and our solar system is an experimemt in free will which makes it a desirable place for our celestial selves to choose to be incarnated. It is supposed to be a school as well as experimental lab of sorts but because free will is so attractive souls keep reincarnating here which is causing issues.

    There was a whole lot more going on but this was like 30 years ago that I read it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Even some Christian texts acknowledge that their God isn't the only God, he is just the one you are supposed to worahip.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    YHVH was the Canaanite god of war. Different tribes/groups would prefer one god over another. There were even specific deities for some cities/cities which devoted themselves to one god above others.

    Edit to add the wikpedia page for Yahweh

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  • [–] 43 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Believing in yourself is Satanic?

    Wow, religious propaganda is so insidious.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Literally, they want compliant, obedient, non-thinking sycophants. It's what the entire religion is based in, right down to Adam and Eve. It's a cult.

    Not to be the douche that links a tedtalk, but extremely relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7mBbXxJYA

    "We don't want women like you"

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    All religions.

    The crazy thing is that the three main religions all derive from the same dumb story of Abraham convincing himself that God wanted him to murder his own son to prove his belief in God.

    Luckily some slightly sane part of his mind kept him from doing it, but his delusion convinced him it was God that stayed his hand.

    I recently read that up until fairly recently in human history, people didn't understand thinking. They didn't realize it was their own mind coming up with ideas, they literally thought God placed it there. Come up with a good solution to a problem? You didn't think of it, refine it, figure out how to apply it, etc. GOD gave you the idea. They really didn't think they were capable of their own independent thought.

    So all three religions worship the exact same God, and believe in the same origin stories, but we still have to genocide all the others because their version of the guy with uncontrolled schizophrenia who tried to murder his son in the name of God, has different nuances than my version.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Whoa whoa whoa... Are we talking the guy with uncontrolled schizophrenia who tried to murder his son in the name of God council of 1879 here, or the guy with uncontrolled schizophrenia who tried to murder his son in the name of God council of 1912?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    One person seems to go "um, ackchually, real christians like Barack Obama are not like that".

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    They're not wrong. The new testament is pretty unambiguous on what Jesus was about, and their religion is named after the guy.

    Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

    The peacenik that willingly sacrificed himself to save people. Someone that repeatedly preached tolerance, kindness to strangers, and that greed is evil. So I have absolutely no problem calling people that don't subscribe to their guy's teachings fake or hypocrites -- especially when there's examples of people that do follow that creed. E.g. Bob Ross, Fred Rogers, Dolly Parton, etc.

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  • [–] 73 points 7 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    sabrina show portrayed lucifer as one with the goat head, i dont think other shows ever portrayed other than a "DEMON" looking person. he still an angel though

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The traditional depiction of Baphomet, since before Christianity has existed, has had a goat head.

    Turn off the television.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Lucifer is the reasonable one in the Bible, God is the one who wipes out millions for amusement.

    Did you know that according to the Bible they hang out and talk shit together? God never hangs out with anyone else.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    A key reason why the church suppressed education for such a long time in what is now referred to as the dark ages.

    If intelligent people were able to read the source material then they would learn what utter shite they were being fed.

    Fortunately for religious organisations we now live in a society where most people are able to read the source material but choose not to and blindly follow the words spoken to them.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Well yes, Thats the propaganda of christianity. Their god doesn’t want you to have independent, critical thought. You’re supposed to do as the authorities tell you, pay your taxes like Jesus TOTALLY said 🙄and be a good citizen and follow the laws. Curious isnt it? Almost as if the texts were altered thousands of times over the years until they fit the views of the people pushing it

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    It is essentially a slave religion where you work for next to nothing your entire life in suffering and then you get imaginary rewards in the afterlife.

    It is of course a garbage religion that borrowed all of its stories from religions that came before it. Jesus was a doomsday cultist who believed in resurrection on this Earth hence why his cultists staged his resurrection to prove his teachings were true.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    There it is. Like sitting through hate sermons every Sunday isn’t torture enough.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Storytime: The last sermon I sat through was literally a hate sermon.

    One of my buddies in grad school talked me into coming to his church for a session one Sunday, and me being mostly agnostic/pagan at the time figured "Ahh, why not? I'm all for you sharing your culture and beliefs with me, I'll hear it out."

    Shit. You. Not. 20 minutes into the thing... The preacher was talking down the "evils of pride month" and how if you ever feel "ostracized" on your campus for "standing against" the satanic "influences" of the LGBTQ, you always had a "strong community" to turn to here.

    If you're cringing reading this... now just imagine this obviously queer 20s something sitting in the middle of the crowd with this giant rainbow scarf on (it was February) while these aryan karens and nutjobs to my left and right are casually nodding along.

    Made a fucking beeline for the door and never spoke to that crazy fucker (or went back to church) ever again lol

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I’m so, so sorry that happened to you. And I am so glad you didn’t give into the guilt and shame they tried to put on you. Probably saved you a few years of deep fucked up guilt, if not your life. (I’ve lived it, post religious trauma is real and heavy).

    That’s their entire model: making emotional hostages through guilt.

    I’ve left that behind a good 10 years now and I’m feeling so much happier but boy it’s been a ride. I’m still rediscovering life and myself to this day.

    Thanks for sharing. Thanks for standing up and walking out of there, hopefully you ignited something in some of them. As hateful as they are, a lot of them are victims, being held there by fear against their will.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    And that's why I left the church. Priest kept drumming up hatred for little zero reason

    Been getting more involved with a small non-denominational church over the last few months though. The pastor really steps back when to earth when he gets off the little stage, just back to being a normal guy

    I love community and hate hate... There's no room for hate within me, I won't let that poison taint me

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    I didnt have "Christians admitting Satan is doing a better job parenting than them" on my bingo card.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago* (32 children)

    Satan is not out here murdering 168 school children. Christians are doing that. Satan is not out here raping and genociding its neighbors. Jews are doing that. Satan is not out here murdering peaceful protestors. Muslims are doing that.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Satan doesn't kill a single person in the Bible. Yahweh on the other hand...

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Satan isn't really much of a presence in the Bible at all. Christians made up more shit to have something to blame for everything they don't like.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Wasn't it that Satan did 4 things?

    • A bit of arrogant rant that he is not gonna serve humans. Got thrown to hell. By all loving father. Yeah.
    • Still pissed, nudged Eve to break the God rule about apple. God had a meltdown and not only banished but also cursed Adam and Eve.
    • Teased Jesus to break his goal. Didn't work.
    • Teased God on few occassions about devotion of humans. Then God made people suffer to prove his point.

    Like, Lucifer always seemed to me more like disgruntled old family friend/worker than some evil guy.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Or rather nationalists. It's not that the IDF is a religious organization or something

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    So why is the Israeli government and IDF committing a genocide?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Because of nationalism and colonialism. They might use religious rhetoric where it suits them and there are religious people in government, I don't deny that, but over all it's a ethnic supremecist ideology and religion is only one identity marker, not the motivator.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    And all of this is rooted in religious overtones. You take the religious aspects out and I doubt this would be happening. The ethnic supremacy is rooted in religion.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Murican patriotic rhetoric is full of liberty and the founding fathers and the flag and stuff. Do you think, without one of these elements, there would be no nationalism?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    Yes religions are the cause of every issues /s not imperialism or capitalism, religion.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Evangelical Christianity IS a manifestation of capitalism. It is the culture arm of capitalism.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    It predate capitalism by a thousand year but ok.

    You're thinking of protestant, it's not secret that allowing usury meant breaking up from the pope. But even then, religions are theaters of the class war, not only tools for the powerful.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Racism literally came from Christianity. It definitely is the problem and creates a framework to allow capitalists/wealthy to take advantage of people.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    From Abrahamic religions in general. They seem to share the theme a lot

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    yea japan is notoriously racism-free.

    I know you guys are oppressed by a bunch of christian fundamentalist, but my wife is muslims and secularists here would love to "remigrate" her to the very same biggots that tried to kill her.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    Imagine confusing xenophobia with racism. While there are some traditional cultural groups that experience discrimination this does not translate to general racism like in the US or European.

    https://weai.columbia.edu/news/qa-professor-michael-sharpe-racism-and-immigration-japan

    Most African Americans experience more freedom in Japan than in Christian dominated cultures. Why is that?

    Toad opens mouth and inserts foot.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Because japanese racism is mostly targetting chinese and korean whereas black people is presented to them through american medias, which they consider high culture.

    Japan was allied with the nazis ffs

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Glad we can put you silly comment about racism to rest

    The US funded the Nazi for Christ's sake. What is your point?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    My point is that the US isn't evil specifically because it's christians and that religion isn't the enemy.

    My wife's muslim and the fascists here would have no problem shipping her back to the very same place where extremists attempted to her life. In the name of atheism.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I know all this. Ever heard of liberation theology? Religion is a theater of the classwar, not an enemy in itself.

    Nowadays secularists want to "remigrate" my wife because she's muslim.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    As a Christian, Ive always found it interesting how much Anton La Vey's Satanism reflect the values of the early church as a commentary on the corruption associated more commonly with Catholicism as a denomination, which I've always found incredibly based, even if the chosen mythography of satirization makes me a little irked. Still, I wouldn't take it seriously if I didn't believe either side was "real" either

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    And if the devil set me free
    Long live the devil
    And if the good becomes the bad
    Long live the evil

    https://youtu.be/09C3f94WQKU

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    ok but why does the guy in the pic look like a cave man?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Is this the temptation I was warned so often about by christians?

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    Ave Satanas! Shemhamforash!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    "Pour Portion"?

    Don't mind if I do...

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    And Kamina shouts, “believe in the me that believes in you”

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