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[–] 33 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Motion to redo the peguin with 8 pack abs.

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    Hey don't come at me like this

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    I just have to do it. Im daunted by it because I literally have a barely functional grasp on software, but I know that Linux is the only real option at this point.

    When the convenience of doing nothing no longer outweighs my apprehension I'll switch

    Edit: how nice you guys are about this isnt helping me be lazy god damnit

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    Zorin OS is geared towards people coming frim Windows or Mac wanting to maintain UI similarity. They have a "paid" version where you just pay for tech support help installing + more desktop layouts, but the free version Zorin OS core is most popular and I'm sure the community here would be happy to help walk you through it.

    If you have nvidia graphics card they have support for that during installation.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Gotta take it in stages my dude and it won’t even feel daunting once you finally do it. I procrastinated for months too lol.

    Stage 1: Note down the software you need to bring with you Stage 2: Do the distro decidin’ (watch some videos, read some nerd posts, whatever) Stage 3: Check hardware support, starting with your most expensive components. Stage 4: Figure out where to look for help before you’re stuck. The hardest part is that most guides start from step 1 and you probably need step 0 so don’t be scared to ask an AI for help, they’re great for stuff like this. Stage 5: Backups! Stage 6: Set aside a whole day and do the dang thing!

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I’m pretty close to making the switch. I just have a little more experimenting to do on a spare laptop before I swap my main PC over.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I feel personally targeted

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    Still using it because many apps I paid damn good money for a use daily have no Linux support and Linux as zero similar apps.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

    You can always run windows on a VM within linux. You can passthrough any required hardware. And windows actually runs better in a VM than on baremetal.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)
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    Whoa thanks for making me aware of this project, this looks great. I was running Linux on my laptop before, but had to go back to windows because of running into issues with figma. Excited to gtfo windows permanently.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    figma

    ...........what's figma.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's a design software - mockups, prototyping etc.. for sites and products

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    @Fredselfish @Morph9 for me at the momment the only app missing on linux is fusion360, found replacement for any orher and I dont see me going back to wibdows now... my newest setup dont even have dualboot

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Well unfortunately they don't have ones I need. 1 TuneFab an app that allows me to convert my Audible files into mp3s. Second Tune Amazon that allows me to convert my Amazon music files into mp3s. And lastly need a good dvd/bluray ripper software. Also what VPN software does Linux support?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Linux supports any VPN protocol pretty much. If your VPN vendor doesn't want you to lock in their software - they probably allow you to download pure OpenVPN or WireGuard config file that can be easily inserted on any major distro.

    And also as far as I knke, Proton VPN and Mulvad has their GUI clients for linux

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Proton VPN and Mulvad has their GUI clients for linux

    They do but don't use Proton. They're very lazy about their VPN implementations and the official clients are very leaky in general. Plus they neglect all their linux apps.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I can't speak to bluray/DVD ripping, but I don't expect that to be an issue. What format are "audible files" and "Amazon music files"? I don't think I've met a format ffmpeg couldn't convert, but maybe not in a way you'd like or would feel as convenient.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    TuneFab

    Is this a feasible alternative? https://getlibation.com/

    As for tunefab for amazon music, why not just use soulseek instead?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Which version should I use for Linux Debian? and I will have to look into Soulseek.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Excellent meme, a welcome addition to the collection.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I use Windows 10, MacOS, and Linux. Use the right tool for the job is whatI always say. Linux is the right tool most of the time, just not all of the time.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I finally broke off my dependency from Windows last year. Still have the Mac for music, but not having to deal with a single Windows update or bug for six months has been such an improvement.

    I’ve always said that with Linux, it’s a buggy, under-development experience, but the mistakes are honest. When one of the biggest companies in the world can’t stop from putting out one broken update after another, all for the sake of short-term profit, I had to just call it quits completely.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Same. And in most use case scenarios MacOS is practically Linux, but with commercial app support. And on AppleSilicon with insane performance/battery life.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    it's the opposite when I do VR

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Me too. I've heard good things about Bazzite. I'm planning to install Bazzite when I "upgrade" my desktop to W11. Still building up the courage to do all that.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    i just got a win 10 ltsc setup for vr and then linux for everything else

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    I'm Ryan Gosling in this image, looking at SteamOS and waiting for the modern version to come to desktops.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    You can try Bazzite with Steam Gaming Mode. That is basically steam OS.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I use bazzite as a general desktop distro. It's incredibly stable and the atomic nature really has grown on me.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Bazzite is what I'm considering.

    Any other feedback or tips you'd offer? Any areas you had to spend more time? Anything thay surprised you (good or bad?)

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    If you're coming from something like windows or non atomic distros, there is a learning curve. Just be aware that you should not install packages manually. You can't simply do something like: sudo apt install package

    There is an app store where you can install probably 95% of what youd need (bazaar), start there and if it isn't there you can spin up a distrobox.

    I do dev work, so I have a dedicated box with Ubuntu that I have my build tools and vscode installed on.

    This is really nice because it allows me to run experiments without nuking my main distro, it just feels really weird at first to be running most things containerized.

    They do have recipes for common things if it needs to run on the host, like I have something added for controlling AMD GPU fan speeds/power profile.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    how does steamos help you? any user friendly linux distro does exactly the same stuff

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Steam is a well-known and "trusted" name, we're tribal critters and there are a lot of people waiting for an entity like that to spoonfeed them something certified

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    What a lot of people don't understand is how little I want to spend time dicking around with my computer. I'd literally rather scrub my toilet than spend time trying to get a different OS to work.

    And OS that is supported, and backed by a customer support helpline, and pretty much guaranteed to work, is something I'd happily pay for.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    It's specifically suited for gaming, which is all my desktop is used for. And since I have an nVidia GPU, they probably will have a better driver solution than trying to get that shit working elsewhere. That's always been the thing keeping me from switching to Linux as my main OS. I only use it on my media server rn.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    there are many different ones available right now specifically created for gaming. they come with some extra instructions for nvidia holders 😉

    im just saying you don't need to wait for steamos. the future you seek is now

    i actually replaced mine on deck with bazzite cause you can't set steamos to boot in desktop mode (or lets say installing bazzite instead of tinkering is much easier)

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    I can't wait to spend weeks trying to get my 10yr old scanner, my 4 yr old stream deck, my specialized proprietary keyboard mapping software, my almost unheard of cad software to work. Don't get me started on doing it on my laptop.

    Don't get me wrong. Windows is going nowhere, and Im sure I'll throw in the towel eventually. I know it's gotten a little better than when I last tried it a few years ago, but I know its going to be painful, involve compromises, and probably some cash on forced hardware changes. People pretending like the switch is easy for power users with specialized hardware are full of lies.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    For me, it wasn’t a promise that Linux would be annoyance free. It was the simple fact that Windows had been escalating its annoyances and built-in ads to catch up.

    Linux had some new annoyances, but I realized over time I just didn’t need to deal with the old ones. Keyboard shortcuts locked to the OS defaults was one; there were a lot of window management shortcuts I wanted to change or disable, and Windows simply doesn’t let you.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Hardware rarely seems to be the issue with major distros. I have had zero trouble with hardware for years now with a big distro like Ubuntu. Some of the smaller or lightweight distros? Absolutely, a mixed bag of hammers not knowing what will work. Usually wireless internet, but sometimes it’s something weird like an NVMe not working or some USB driver.

    Software OTOH is a really big problem. Software controlling hardware, for instance gaming gear like a joystick/throttle setup, RGB gear or pwm pumps for cooling, is nowhere near as comprehensive or user friendly, if it exists at all; and of course plenty of games and other windows/mac only software doesn’t exist for Linux or might work in something clunky like Wine.

    Linux can’t do it all, but devs have little incentive to make things linux compatible. Why deal with the headache of trying to get their software to work on a bunch of different distros when Windoze and Mac are still working fine.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Test it by booting into a live image, no install required.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm 100% sure it won't be easy, but I've had a tab open for like 4months with instructions on setting up a dual boot environment. If I live image I'll get frustrated and quit. This way I can work on it a bit at a time.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    A live image is an ISO that you can boot directly to without installing on to your computer. You can place the ISO on a USB stick with Ventoy, and then during post you chose to boot from the USB instead of your installed drive.

    Most Linux ISOs are live images.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Yes I know. I envision myself in a mercurial state Yanking the usb out as soon as I have driver issues. Making a partition for an install will take more work to undo, nudging me to commit to the change that I think will ultimately be beneficial.

    If this sounds crazy, this is the kind of tortured process I go through on a daily basis to try to outsmart and tame my future self.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    By the way Microsoft was going the last 10 years you'll have exactly your first paragraphs work on windows too, anyhow.

    I am still running windows on a gaming only device but I am regularly amazed at the amount of effort that goes into breaking things.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Got a friend who is way better at tech than I am, he made the switch to Linux about a month ago. Seems like it's a constant battle between him and his OS. Settings will randomly change with no explanation. Programs will refuse to run. The other day we were playing a game and suddenly his mouse sensitivity shot down to like the lowest setting possible. He didn't manage to get it fixed until the next day.

    Shit like that is what keeps me from moving to Linux. I already get headaches when I have to troubleshoot an obscure issue I have on Windows; combing through dozens of message boards and YouTube videos from years ago with outdated advice or solutions that don't work. I can just imagine having to do that almost every single day, but having even less resources because there are fewer people using my exact set up and having my exact problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I dunno. Less people but almost every one using Linux is tech saavy and an enthusiast. I think there's a lot of resources for help with Linux. I think there's also a lot more things to troubleshoot though because in general the world / devices are built specifically to work with windows.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Dude... the Steam Deck run on SteamOS which IS Linux.

    Anyway all it takes is to put a bootable usb in your pc, and check all the hardware before installing anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Sounds great but I don't have one of those.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    I'll switch once there is support for league on Linux, untill then I'll stay with windows 10. I feel like it's only a matter of time untill valve or someone else comes up with a solution for whatever type of anti cheat riot and other companies use .

    I am using Linux on my old laptop, and waiting for stream os to support more hardware before swapping my media PC to it

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I dual boot, one system is exclusively for league.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    most of my friends are on 10 and lost at what to do. i'm sure they'll just go 11 because anything else is scary. I sometimes offer to help but most don't take me up on it.

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