Context: in classical Greece, Sparta built a hegemony based on its military power that was formed around a core of professional hoplites, which was rare at the time as most military campaigns were fought by part time soldiers who were mainly farmers, handymen, etc.
This hegemony was broken when in Thebes the Sacred Band of Thebes was formed, consisting of 150 gay couples who became professional soldiers, too. These 300 (coincidence? Idk, but I find it funny) elite warriors were instrumental in two major defeats an outnumbered thebian army handed to Spartans who encountered another professional military for the first time.
The Sacred Band being made up of gay couples was intentional, as the idea behind it was that men would fight harder for and with other men they had a strong bond with and there was no stronger bond than love.

Idolizing spartan warrior culture is widespread among "alpha males" and the manosphere. Another funny irony that followers and propagators of such a homophobic idiology idolize a culture that was defeated by an explicitly gay warrior unit.

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[–] 71 points 8 months ago (1 child)

If Andrew Tate is such a tough guy, why is he so focused on women? A real alpha male would go after strong men, not like those pussy loving straight guys.

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The Spartans were also gay.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Rome came much later.

    The mindset is actually still alive today. A lot of central and south american countries still have this mindset due to Portuguese and Spanish influence over the centuries. I watched a documentary years back talking about the history and origins of machismo in Latin culture.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago

    He hates women so much, he's turning gay...

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] [S] 2 points 8 months ago (9 children)
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  • [–] [S] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, I know. I put those words there.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    "ALPHA MALES" WHEN WHEN THEY'RE TOLD THEIR FANTASY SPARTAN ROLEMODELS WHERE DEFEATED BY A UNIT OF ELITE GAY WARRIORS

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yes I know. I put that meme in there on purpose.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Where defeated?

    There, defeated! There, castle!

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I am totally out of the loop on the manosphere but do they really adore spartans? I think they adore the americanized movie version, sure, but do they like actually learn from real Spartan history because there would be truly a lot of homosexuality involved then

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Like they would accept historical facts and not the bullshit they make up on the spot.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    What's manlier then two men? Besides increasing multiples of men, of course.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Didnt the Spartans famously practice homosexuality as a way of strengthening bonds between soldiers? The reasoning being that you'd fight extra hard for the guy next to you if you were lovers.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The Spartans were all gay or bi too.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Wait until they find out about the Spartans.

    OH DEAR

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    As always, the alpha got mogged by a figglebottom

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Bonus fact: there was a lot of homosexuality in the Spartan armies too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    What's biblical about gay lovers/couples from the fourth century BCE, four hundred years before the christianisation of Greece even began?

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  • [–] -5 points 8 months ago*

    HERE'S MY JOKE WHAT YOU THINK, GUYS?!

    Here's me explaining my joke in detail so you chuds get it:

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