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[–] 97 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"I have usernames older than you" is actually a pretty sick burn

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    My Reddit account was 19 years old before I was permabanned by their stupid AI for liking Luigi pics and saying I wish Trump wouldn’t wake up in response to a pic of him napping 😔

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  • [–] 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

    I will invoke the old words

    A/S/L

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    [–] 104 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Oh, you think the darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark.

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  • [–] 84 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written.

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    These kids have never been slapped around a bit with a large trout and it shows.

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I've known adventures, seen places you people will never see, I've been on university work terminals and back... frontiers! I've stood on the back deck of Usenet bound for Mosaic with sweat in my eyes watching Netscape Navigator fight on the shoulder of the internet... I've felt wind in my hair, riding Lynx off of monochrome monitors and seen usegroups burn like a match and disappear. I've seen it, felt it...!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The true measure of your worth: do you prefer amber, green, or true B&W?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My terminal used to be set up such that local terminal usage was green & black and remote was amber.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So, that was a PC, or a color terminal? Either way, you're probably a young old fart.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    It was a color terminal starting with my upgrade from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS 10 (and Fedora around the same time). If I recall correctly my Claris works terminal was black on white in the 90s when I was in Usenet (alt.rec.scouting, baby (and others))

    But I kept it that way because of my history growing up with Apple IIs (and an old interface to airline booking software in the early 2000s as well.

    Born in 80.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Assuming y'all aren't just fucking around, reading the comments here is actually really cool, tangentially interacting with people who have internet stories from well before I was born

    I'm just from the dialup era, and I still feel old online a lot of the time, but then someone here is like "yeah, Berners-Lee invented HTTP just to make a website to mock me"

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  • [+] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So much of the wonder of computers and networks and just.... all of it has been abstracted away

    So many people just have phones or tablets as the majority of their computer experience

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Get into Lora (meshtastic/core). When I settle into bed I check to see if my solar powered nodes made any friends or if the heltec I keep in the car pinged anything cool.

    I did a meetup a few weeks ago and its a cool smattering of younger folks and HAM folks who go wayyyyy back.

    People talk about it being useful in an emergency, and sure, but mostly it's just cool.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I got my first "home computer" in the days of the BBS's when there was such a thing as a "long distance call". Internet access was crazy expensive and not for the average geek. Back then it was a bit "underground". There were professionals and there were passionate hobbyists. Most people didn't have or need a computer in their lives. Things changed in the late 90's boom. A cultural shift when suddenly everyone joined in. The geeks were no longer king

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    When we upgraded from the Atari whatsit box to a 286 it was amazing

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I remember getting a Hotshot/286 card which allowed me to upgrade my 8088 to a 286. I don't even remember what programs I used back then but I'm sure they ran a lot faster after that.

    IIRC correctly, the card was normally around $400 but I managed to get one for $150 and I was so proud of my dealmaking.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    i just remember we had 2 games: King's Quest 4: Rosella's Peril and Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego, but we could only have one installed at a time.

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    [+] 43 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Shit, my steam account is older than most of the highschoolers I work with

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    My Steam account is almost 18 years old and I still have to select DOB when viewing "adult" games....

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well, I guess Steam won't have a problem with California law

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I was on BBS forums in the '80s.

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    Well not sure about the other poster but the BBSes I used were ones you had to dial into and you were the only one there. Well unless it was a fancy one that had multiple phone lines. I even ran one for a short bit my junior year of high school on my commodore 128 and a 1200 baud modem. Good times. Then I got to college and learned about usenet and IRC. This was like ‘89.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I am one of the few people, it seems, that can not for the life of me remember my ICQ number... but I was there, using it.

    Anyone remember Trillian? Having your Yahoo, AIM, ICQ, Messenger, etc all in one program..

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    I also don't remember my ICQ number, but I had one. And I remember my first time stepping into a 99 cent only store and their registers used that "uh oh" sound from it. I always felt like nobody else recognized where it was from.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I absolutely remember Trillian. It's what convinced me to finally make an AIM account to talk with my "mainstream" friends who didn't have ICQ or IRC, since I wouldn't actually need to run any new software.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    It was just last year that re-found my little black book from the late 90's and 2000's with all my accounts from back then AIM/ICQ/Yahoo, shit there was even a /. account number sub 100,000 that I couldn't log into any more

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    [+] 177 points 8 months ago (16 children)
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    Back when I was booking shows it was great because you could blast a small event and know it was reaching a lot of people. Bands would share it, every band member would reshare it. But then I noticed the growing discrepancy between the amount of people who claimed they’d attend online and who showed up. Like so much on FB, the illusion of being a part of something became more important than actually being a part of something. But yeah, for a brief moment there was a bit of “social” in social media. Then came the yelling.

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  • [–] 81 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Couldn't disagree more.

    Prior to fb, there was dedicated forums for the music scene I was in to in my area. Everything was in them. Finding what was on was easy as all the promotors used them.

    Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb's chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.

    Fuck META.

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  • [–] 68 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I like how they specified before the algorithm and you cite the algorithm for why you disliked it

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Let me clarify.

    Before the algorithm when both fb and forums coexisted was still annoying.

    Some events would be on forums.

    Some on fb

    Some both.

    Occasionally I would miss out on early bird tickets or tickets all together.

    There was never a point where Facebook made anything better on that front.

    Don't even get me started on the fuckery that fb marketplace is vs what we had.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Discord is (unfortunately) filling the gap now. Why have a bbs when you can have a shitty chat platform with shitty search and conversations that are impossible to track?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb’s chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.

    It gets worse on the mobile app because there's much less control and so much slop, versus accessing FB on a browser with a Violentmonkey script applying custom filters getting rid of unwanted suggested pages.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    rofl tell me you do not understand how FB got started without telling me...

    That shit's been a privacy nightmare from the beginning.

    Zuck has been selling personal info from basically day 1. He's been abusing people since day 1.

    The day people realize convenience does not equal good is the day humanity grows up from a petulant child to a moronic teenager... Too bad it's looking more and more like we'll never make it past, "petulant child".

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    It was 2002-ish.

    A much younger korazail saw how my friends were leaving highschool, going to different colleges and foresaw they would continue to spread out after that.

    He had an idea of building a website to help keep track of friends so we could keep in touch despite physical distance and enable networking; a blend of Facebook and LinkedIn.

    I was a CS major and built a forum and database architecture that my local friend group used for a little bit to chat, but we were all still mostly local and it didn't seem super useful, and while always on Internet was a thing, I didn't have it and my server needed to be online to use my application.

    A few years later, Facebook.

    I wonder sometimes how the world would be if I'd promoted my idea, figured out how to host it outside my bedroom, etc. I might have also just been a Myspace or live journal, but maybe I'd have gotten there first...

    I don't think I'd be a megalomanic asshole, but I can't prove it.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Events was what kept me on the site for far too long after they went bad. Being able to organise events with friends so easily was incredible. I can track the decrease in my social activity along with fb making their system worse and it makes me sad

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Ive been around the internet since early dial up days, and while I haven't used every social platform that appeared, Facebook was the one where I saw everyone was really just posting their projected self, the world is amazing fake lives. I dont think it necessarily started immediately like that, but it quickly became that. Its the first place I saw it anyway.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I have usernames older than you

    Can't wait till I can use that did someday.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    23715769

    Social media used to be about socializing and communicating. These days its all drivel that has bren productized into a vehicle where streaming addictive brain rot keeps the advertisements flowing and lowers self esteem.

    Gen Z may have adopted the internet but it was born of us- AIM, yahoo messenger, ICQ, IRC servers, news groups... all on a dial-up modem. The good old days where there wasnt enough bandwidth for all the ads of today, and the most intrusive ads were a 468x60 pixel banner at the top or bottom of the netscape page

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like those platform ideas came initially from people who wanted to build something cool. Something people would use. The ads were a side effect of being part of the tech company.

    Now I feel they are built because it's a way to show ads or harvest data.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago*

    Exactly, the priorities have flipped. It used to be that ads were a necessary evil to fund the development and hosting costs for the service you actually care about and want to provide. Now it seems like the service is the necessary evil that's only there to provide an excuse for the real goal - selling ad space.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Honestly, the people who were around in the early internet days helped build the online world we all use now. A little respect for the veterans of dial-up isn’t a bad thing. 😄

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Back in our day, the Internet yelled at you when connecting to it. I think that conditioning helped us brace for what's to come, and we should bring that feature back.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    Look, instant messages were instant, but getting the computer to boot up, connecting to the Internet and logging in were not.

    I'm on the younger end but I remember so Many people having routines like prep the coffee machine the night before, when the alarm went off you would get up youd hit the power button on the computer, turn on the coffee machine, then hop in the shower. When you got out of the shower you would log in, and go grab a cup of coffee, then come back and connect to the Internet. Drink your coffee and you could check the 2 items and emails you needed before running out the door

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago*

    You see me now a veteran, of a thousand internet wars.
    I've been living on the edge so long, where the tones of dialup roar.
    And I'm young enough to look at, but far too old to meme
    All the scars on the inside...

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    Do not speak to me of the old magic, I was there when it was written.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you bought your dial-up internet from your local newspaper, there’s a pretty good chance I was doing tech support for it.

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