I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.

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[–] 73 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

I used to be anti-nuclear energy until I learned a bunch of science and engineering behind it. Turns out things are less scary when you know more about them.

Edit: I also learned that it's okay, and usually preferable, to not have a strong opinion about things that you don't know about.

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  • [+] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I suppose that is true of everything in the world though. Cars jump to mind pretty quickly.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    I used to be strictly against nuclear energy until like 2025 or so.

    I recently looked into it again due to a school project and realized that nuclear energy is actually fine. Renewable energy is still better but nuclear energy is fine. The biggest problem with nuclear energy is high cost; And renewable energy is just nuclear energy with the most difficult parts outsourced (to the sun).

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    The main problem with nuclear power is that it's the most expensive form of electricity. People who say otherwise are only looking at the cost of running the generator, rather than including all the true costs involved in generating each watt, which is called the "Levelized Cost Of Electricity" (LCOE)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levelized_cost_of_electricity

    So there's no reason to build any new nuclear generators now that renewables+storage are the cheapest form of electricity, and are also the easiest and fastest to build.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I know nuclear is expensive, but power generation isn't the only reason to build nuclear reactors. Nuclear power plants basically prop up nuclear science. Without nuclear power plants, you're hampering the chances of discovering a breakthrough that could lead to cheaper nuclear energy. And you're pushing back the timeline on fusion.

    Also, medical isotopes used for cancer treatments are created in nuclear reactors.

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  • fusion is a pipe dream at this point; nuclear physics has been so thoroughly researched through CERN and other organizations that it's utterly unlikely that any big break-throughs are gonna happen anytime in the next 100 years.

    the only optimization that could still happen is in the reactor design, that is, in everything except the nuclear physics part. stuff like how do you build cheaper plumbing through a 1 m thick concrete wall ... not really exciting stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'm curious how SMRs will end up affecting overall cost of nuclear as well. Once we get into a unit that can be mass produced rather than tailor making each site, I could see the line going down at least a bit and would also allow us to keep pushing those boundaries.

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    [–] 129 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Before using AI for the first time: "Holy shit this is gonna be dope!"

    Aftwr using AI: "Yo wtf? This is bullshit."

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    Itd be fine if it was just useless slop that sat there. But then it gets shoved I to every last possible device, burning up water, and taking up valuable land resources to enrich billionaires, oh and outright stealing the works of others while telling us plebs "it's illegal to do that!" Thats the issues I have. If it was all locally ran, open source, trained in public data only, I'd maybe be OK with it being used for research or data purposes only (nothing to do with art or surveillance) but we will never have that.

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Google, Reddit, etc. are good. Now I know the horrors and they are obviously our worst enemies.

    That we don't need school and it's useless. I used to not like going to school when I was younger. Now I love it and look forward to almost every day, especially now that this is my last year in high school.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I used to love google. They were the plucky upstart disrupting the microsoft ecosystem.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Used to be that Google offered applications and services that rivaled or surpassed the established pay-for alternatives. Now... FOSS is the new Google, Google is the new Microsoft, and Microsoft is innovating a whole new category of shitty and ubiquitous slopware.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, FOSS isn't the new google.

    It's a normal part of a market cycle that a cheeky upstart, a disruptor, will enter with less inertia and a fresh approach. Inevitably they become the incumbent with the same problems as those they displaced.

    I think FOSS holds the same position it always has - low cost, generally low "perceived" quality. However, as the higher perceived quality brands become hostile to users regarding privacy and features like AI, that perception of quality around FOSS is changing, but not to an extent that's significant in the market.

    What I mean is, FOSS has become an appealing option to you and I because we care about privacy. In general though FOSS is in the same position it always has been.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    When forced to make a profit by the profit focused side of reality, idealism has traditionally fractured.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    There are plenty of nonprofit organizations that have existed for more than 100 years.

    In fact, I would say there's a better track record for such organizations than there has been for publicly traded capitalist enterprises, which tend to pop in and out of existence like bubbles by comparison. The only 'for profit' enterprises with comparable longevity are businesses that have have been owned by the same family for generations.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Well, both started out fine. It's just that greed always drives everything down the shitter.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I remember feeling that "We're cooked" feeling when Wall Street came out. Everyone was shouting "Greed Is Good!" without irony.

    I didn't know what that feeling was then, just the sensation of a huge void falling in my gut.

    Had that feeling a few times in life now.

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  • [–] 220 points 8 months ago (35 children)

    In high school, I was pro-death penalty. As part of a class on politics, I was randomly assigned the anti-death penalty position to research and debate on. I very quickly changed my opinion when I learned about the systemic racism involved. Now I'm an anarchist

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I used to be anti-death. Now I am in the pro-death camp. This is because if a 2nd American War is concluded, we will be left with many living MAGA in our prisons. Do we really want to house members of ICE in our prisons for life, or allow them to once again walk the streets they terrorized? Members of the Trump Regime willfully given up their humanity in all the ways.

    I cannot help but feel that executing them all will allow us to allocate more resources towards the people who matter: children, immigrants, and others who still have their humanity.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I feel that but also recoginize the inherent dark irony.

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  • [+] -52 points 8 months ago (25 children)

    Don't worry, when you graduate high school you'll drop the anarchist bit, too.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Because grown ups are capitalists ?

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    Obviously, it varies, but a thing often happens where as you're exposed to the details of how the world works (in person) you start to realise the generations who came before and made it weren't total idiots.

    Thinking it all makes sense isn't where that goes, but "a monopoly on the use of force is probably necessary" or "markets are more airtight than people think" can be.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Speak for yourself. All kinds of groups from conservatives to liberals to fascists to communists (although let's be honest, it's mostly the conservatives and liberals and 'enlightened centrists') love to arrogantly imply that their current worldview is the mature, rational conclusion that any intelligent person should reach in adulthood, and any other is just childish, naive, and poorly conceived. The people who do this aren't speaking to anything concrete about the world, they're just high on their own farts and confident in their ignorance.

    And it's the anarchists who catch the bulk of the sneering insults from these types, who will often demonstrate their own ignorance as they dismiss them as naive and uninformed. You did this yourself by extolling the virtues of markets as a defense of capitalism, apparently not knowing that markets are not exclusive to capitalism.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    Oh? Which ideology on that list the push for, then? I'm in the picture, I used to agree with OP on a lot and now I agree on less, but can you even guess how?

    Nothing is being sold here, I literally just listed a couple anarchist things OP believes. Learning as you get older is a real phenomenon, at least for most people. And, there's no shortage of older people who have more complex, less absolute ideas about any number of things than they did when they were younger.

    You did this yourself by extolling the virtues of markets as a defense of capitalism, apparently not knowing that markets are not exclusive to capitalism.

    I used a different word on purpose, because capitalism doesn't really have a consistent definition. According to Hexbear, China isn't capitalist despite having all the associated features, for example.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Alright, I'll have a go at guessing your ideology since you asked. Given your status quo preference ("the generations before us aren't stupid and things are the way they are for a good reason"), you're not a radical so that leaves conservative, liberal, or centrist. Given you've implied that you used to have some anarchist beliefs it's unlikely you went from that to conservative, so most likely you're some flavor of liberal, like a social democrat. You're vaguely sympathetic to some socialist and anarchist ideas but think you're too smart to commit to them because the world is "just more complicated than that." Capitalist realism has pulled you back from becoming a radical as you've gotten older.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Actually, you pretty much nailed it, nice. TBF that makes it kind of a trick question, since it's not neatly in any of the categories.

    Do you think the world isn't complicated? Even anarchists usually do. If anything, you see the argument that the world is too complicated to be reduced to numbers and laws.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think the world is more complex than any individual person can possibly comprehend, but that doesn't make us incapable of moral judgement or unable to imagine radical alternatives to the status quo. Yes, things are the way they are now for a reason, but rarely a good reason. I see the appeal to complexity as a cognitive trap serving as a thought-terminating cliché, and it's the trap that a lot of social democrats have fallen into. It is easier to stick to what you know than to speculate about a world you've never experienced, but I promise you the latter is more fulfilling and a great antidote to cynicism.

    I won't speak for you, but when I was a social democrat I was pretty miserable and cynical. I recommend the book Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher, as it is what snapped me out of being a social democrat, personally. That sent me into the world of radical politics and I found footing by reading David Graeber (The History Of Everything, Bullshit Jobs, etc.) which helped me put my thoughts into perspective and realize my beliefs had already been fairly anarchist for a while. I'm not an anti-realist like a lot of anarchists are, my worldview is still grounded in materialism, but I have become a bit more agnostic in that regard over time.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You're right, it is a thought terminating cliche for a lot of people. If you get rid of the thought terminating cliches and put in the work to understand, you open yourself up to all the ideologies, not just anarchism.

    but that doesn’t make us incapable of moral judgement or unable to imagine radical alternatives to the status quo

    If you want to turn this around and sell something to me, fill that in with details. Anarchists have a way of pointing out things that seem terrible, but then when you ask how things should work instead, getting really vague.

    On it's own that says nothing about the movement itself. But, when it's literally all you can find even looking hard at an old idea, it starts to seem like there's nothing there.

    Yes, things are the way they are now for a reason, but rarely a good reason.

    Doesn't "a bunch of other things have been tried, and they had X problem" count?

    On policy specifically, that's usually the gist. There's been a lot of history, very little is original unless new technologies are involved, and even there it's uncommon (eg. tech monopolies are railroad monopolies).

    I recommend the book Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher, as it is what snapped me out of being a social democrat, personally.

    You know, maybe I will. I'm pretty sure I did read Bullshit Jobs. Or maybe just the notes?

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (14 children)

    oh look, it's someone who doesn't know what anarchism is

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I know what anarchism is and I think it a utopian thought experiment.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Like every single political ideology you rube

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, other ideologies, support them or hate them, have at least existed in the real world at a mass scale.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    So you’re saying human civilization always operated under a hierarchical body politic without decentralized decision making?

    Serious ahistorical claim.

    By the way “anarchy” in the sense of childish movie plot stuff is not what any adherent of the ideology is about. Anarchy is a spectrum and set of guiding principles (like any political belief system), and one can argue that forms of what I might identify as anarchistic political structures have and do exist in many political systems. Just like socialism exists in neoconservative governments, and fascism in democracy ect…

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Anarchism can run a small commune but not modern societies like China or the USA. Let real leftists build movements that actually succeed in reality and not at the scale of like a couple hundred people.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Name me another leftist ideology that is perfectly constructed and has achieved utopia on mass scale.

    I’ll wait while you come up something specific. Until then I will use my ideology as a set of guiding principles towards a more equal society.

    Thanks. Also, read theory if you are struggling the above. It helped me

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I guarantee you that I’ve read more theory than you but also have the ability to understand the difference between fantasy and non fiction. Unfortunately, anarchists don’t have this ability. I actually really appreciate their utopian optimism. It’s cute.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago*

    Cool guy you are. Your “guarantee” isn’t worth the bits in your text given we don’t know each other - neither is your disrespect.

    But hey keep feeling better than someone else you don’t know if that helps you.

    I’m happy as is with my knowledge and political orientation. Was just trying to widen your lens - to understand why someone may support a political doctrine: anarchy, ghat comes from theory and practice which contributed to many positive changes across societies.

    … also still waiting for your alternate frame

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  • [+] -15 points 8 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    what gave it away, the website I'm on or the posts I made?

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  • [+] -16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't even look at your post history. It's just that Linux users and defenders of Anarchism as a true system of power have a very narrow Venn diagram.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    whatever. I'm not interested in discussing anything with someone this caustic. I didn't say "humanity must become anarchists" I said "you don't know what anarchy is"

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    [–] 110 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    I used to joke about eating two animals for every one a vegetarian didn't eat. I've been vegan for over a decade now, pulled a bit of an uno reverse in my early twenties.

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  • [–] 97 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Oh great. Now I gotta eat four animals. I’m never gonna finish lunch.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You can switch to crickets, I think that's your best murder per Kg ratio.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Larvae or maggot-based dishes would be my go-to. Or maybe edible mite gulls, which IIRC is a thing. You go too small and at some point you end up with questions about if the critters are so simple they're actually vegetarian, though.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Go to Wendy's and get a 4 for $4 add bacon. bacon cheeseburger, nuggets and fries. That counds as three.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago*

    Yeah we all go through a stage where we haven't mentally matured yet and have this tween-like rebellion reaction to any idea about changing for the better. Some grow out of it at a younger age, some at a normal age, and some not at all. I remember a bunch of examples I've seen happen through the decades;

    "You say i shouldn't eat meat, well i say nuh uh! Now I'm gonna eat twice as much!"

    "You say i shouldn't smoke cigarettes, well i say nuh uh! Now I'm gonna smoke cigars too!"

    "You say i shouldn't be racist, well i say nuh uh! Now I'm gonna be even more outrageously racist!"

    It's just a non-thinking reactionary response to the idea that you aren't perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    How do you get your protein? I've been doing the plants - and eating beans a lot - but this last week I ate some meatballs in my soups and boy - I really crave the meat.

    edit - not sure why it quotes irrelevant text in these replies

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    I eat a lot of tofu, soy curls, and chickpeas,mostly. I haven't had much issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Here's sort of a strange question. Not too strange though ;-)

    Let's say you had a basic rice and beans meal - garlic .. onions ... root vegetables .. blackbeans and redbeans ... then kale roots and final kale leafs ... salt pepper

    What spices do you use? What are your favorites?

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  • [–] 54 points 8 months ago

    I used to be excited and optimistic about new technologies. Now I'm just jaded.

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  • [–] 53 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I wasn't a supporter of euthanasia until I worked in a residential aged care facility.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    That's dark. People really do just be putting their parents in those buildings to die, aren't they?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They are. But what's the alternative? The elderly person who doesn't know who you are dies their slow, maybe 10 year death in your living room when you don't have the support you need to care for them? It's either awful for the elderly person or awful for everyone.

    Source: we can't stomach putting granny in one of those so she lives with us, and I wipe her butt every day. I feel suicidal, and she feels.. idk. Because the dementia is too bad for her to really tell me. We can't put her in one because we know she'll be abused, but I genuinely can't and don't judge anyone who drops their family member off and walks away.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So I keep reading that this activity of putting our old people in senior centers is something only westerners do. We have this kind of fixation on self reliance being the peak of individual achievement and the parent-child relationship being a hurdle to overcome in order to reach that.

    My personal recommendation: build a world where personal freedom isn't intertwined with financial dependence. And also better families who aren't motivated to get the hell away from eachother as soon as possible. But that's a pie-in-the-sky, ever elusive transformation that you and I alone can't make.

    For you? I'm so sorry. My cousin has done what you're doing and it wrecked her irreparably. I should have helped her but I fucking didn't. She didn't ask either. If you can, try to get help with your task. Trade off responsibilities, procure healthcare. You shouldn't have been made to do this alone and you are the exact reason why we can't afford to keep doing things this way.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, it's nuts. I'm one of 15 grand kids, and me and my 3 sisters are the only ones who do anything for her. No one's doing well enough to really help, so asking just feels like I'll lose the relationships and still not get any help. There's definitely resentment building though

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but it's complex. I helped care for a lovely old Scottish lady, she was so nice everyone was confused as to why her family never visited. Turns out before the dementia set in she was a horriblY abusive person, and none of her kids wants to have anything to do with her.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I used to assume police were generally trustworthy and I could believe their version of any given event. Now I believe nothing they say without supporting video evidence.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Homophobia was the norm where I grew up in the '80s and '90s. Took me until the late '90s to start questioning that, and probably a year or two more to become completely cleansed of it.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago

    I used to believe in a woman's right to choose. Then I got married, and having my wife always pick what we do had gotten us into some really boring shit. I would like to choose from time to time.

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    God it's awkward now to look back but I used to vote conservative.

    There's a phrase here "temporarily embarrassed millionaires", referring to people who vote for policies that benefit wealth people because they identify as a wealthy person even though they are absolutely not. That was me.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Used to make fun of small cars and "ricers". Now I have like 3 of them and hate large vehicles.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    The irony there being you now have more car than just a single large vehicle. Although you won't be driving more than one at once.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago*

    1 person who buys a new car (especially anything large) is wasting far far more than I am with my 15 year old cars. I don't believe in throwaway culture. Plus I hate new cars so there's that.

    I'll also add that I'm not a menace on the road like Karen road raging in her 8000 lb suv

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    That a dictatorship led by a "good, strong leader" would be enough to fix any country. Held that belief from ages 16-22. With time, I understood that it would devolve into a bad strong leader anyway, especially because any one single person cannot realistically do everything at such a large scale, nor can they ensure that everyone down the chain of command is "good". Paranoia would seep in, more and more resources would be spent hunting "the bad ones", innocents would be wrongfully accused either by honest mistake or by malicious enemies.

    Nowadays, I really enjoy the idea of "Do not take for yourself any power that you would loathe your worst enemy to have" and I wish it could be applied to all levels of politics.

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