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[–] 53 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the Department of War Crimes.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I mean it's really the only one that can actually do them.

    Though I guess I should brush up on American history, maybe it was the department of the interior that was killing all the natives.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Limited to what?

    Well, umm, war.

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    [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    And now, suddenly, they find out why it was named the Department of Defense and not the Department of War in the first place.

    For PR and propaganda purposes. And now they just realized they made their PR and propaganda more difficult because of Dear Leader's idiot idea to rename the department.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    not surprised, johnson seems like someone who would deadname lmao

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    DoW is still not the legal name. All they did was change a plaque and some letterhead, not the law dictating it's existence.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    interesting, had to look it up and you are half correct.

    it still is officially the DoD, although there was an executive order stating it can legally be referenced as the DoW too

    Sec. 2. Implementation. (a) The Secretary of Defense is authorized the use of this additional secondary title — the Secretary of War — and may be recognized by that title in official correspondence, public communications, ceremonial contexts, and non-statutory documents within the executive branch.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The executive has no actual authority to change the name of a department. So I am fully correct.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    you are half correct because department of war is now the legal name the department of defense can also go by

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Executive orders don't make law.

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  • Oh, so now they're dead naming the Department of War. Crazy how they can't even respect their own pronouns.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    To me, the only thing that is clear is that everything is unclear

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Disgusting bunch of weirdos, please join me in celebrating every bad consequence that befalls them. And hey, let's do what we can to assure there are many reasons to celebrate.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    No difference between "this week it's trump, next week it's krasnov".

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    The department of Big Badaboom!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    "It's the Department of War. But not that war. It's one of the wars we can win"

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Spécial military opération bop https://youtu.be/S-sqsvcZJ2w

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    [–] 67 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I don't know if this makes it better or worse but it never stopped being the "Department of Defense."

    The "Department Of War" is essentially stylistic preference in the executive branch. The "Defense" name is still the statutory one.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    EDIT: See below; this is invalid.


    I'll add that I – giving Mike Johnson the least benefit of the doubt I could – tried pretty hard to find any instance of him referring to the DoD as the "Department of War" following Trump's executive order; I could not.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    He corrected himself a few days ago in a back and forth about iran after he called if department of defense and called it the department of war.

    Here he is 3 days ago:

    "We are not at war. We have no intention of being at war," he told reporters. "The Department of War has made it very clear -- this is a limited operation. It's an operation that is limited in its scope and duration."

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Oh shit, that's why I didn't find it. Here's the C-SPAN clip. He says "Department of Defense" and then immediately corrects himself to "Department of War". Jesus christ, Mikey, I really tried.

    (This was somewhat difficult to find even with the quote; please link a source if you use one in the future instead of just quoting.)

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We've now hit the point in the timeline where these morons thought maybe if we change the name back no one will think it was us.

    "What? No, we are the Department of DEFENSE. That whole thing going on in the Middle East was caused by the Department of War. That's not us."

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    [–] 42 points 8 months ago* (12 children)

    The Department of War was its original name. I've always thought it to be a more honest name than the Department of Defence.

    When was the last defensive war the US fought?

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  • [+] -12 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Afghanistan is arguable, but it was primarily to prevent terrorism.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    primarily

    Ostensibly.

    Nominally.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Well they didn't go over Afghanistan for the oil.

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    Attacks on heroin production were primarily to hit the Taliban's source of funding. Fentanyl is synthetic, and almost none of the US heroin comes form Afghanistan.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47861444

    The Afghanistan was really was about terrorism (even though the hijackers were Saudis).

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago

    The war on Afghanistan was in response to Saudi Arabia attacking the US on 9/11. As Obama's released documents showed, the US government knew that it was Saudi Arabia, but likely due to business reasons, Bush/Cheney decided to attack other Middle Eastern countries for their oil instead and call it a War on Terror (TM).

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago*

    The Trump admin learning firsthand why the euphemism was used.

    Department of Face-Eating Leopards, on the other hand, is doing great

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    It's not a war, it's a Country Building Operation. Tehran in 3 days!

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  • [+] 11 points 8 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Oops, forgot who he was speaking with and got the wires crossed.

    Soon the GOP might have to set up a clubhouse and private Facebook group so they don't leak their real feelings.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Oh man, I timed that Molly perfectly

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Are they going to call it the Gulf of Mexico again? Or are they still pretending like it's all not a distraction from Epstein?

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