I get that it says “flavored juice drink” now, but I was tired and the text is pretty small.

“Fruit snacks” are so much worse. It’s just candy, and inferior in taste and texture to anything made with actual fruit.

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[–] 57 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Unless you’re looking for Apple or grape juice specifically, this is what you get. I’ve long decided to avoid juices as a result. If I want a sugar water packet, I just pack a honeycrisp apple, orange, Asian pear, plum, or a slightly overripe bartlett pear.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Disagree, I was able to find the local grocery store's store branded 100% fruit juice in cranberry, apple, grape, and pomegranate. It's just a regular grocery store too.

    They even had the welch's 100% juice varieties.

    Now that being said I had to pay real close attention to the labels to select the right juice, but the good stuff is still out there

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Apple and grape are the same

    8oz of Welch grape juice has 35g sugar. 20oz of classic coke has 65g sugar. Adjusted for volume, that's 26g/8oz. Somehow fucking coke has less sugar. Apple is ironically the same as coke at 53g per 16oz

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago*

    They are, however, made of the fruit they’re named after with little sugar added. That 8oz is about half a pound, and half a pound of grapes is calorically comparable. I’d guess that the apple/juice situation is similar but it’s harder to ascertain because of variation.

    We’ve cultivated tree candy, and I can’t see it any other way.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I have an apple tree at home and I've tried to make apple juice. It's absulte rancid if you don't add tons of sugar. Clearly there's better kinds of apples for this, but those are also more expensive. So for the stakeholder's sake, lets add some sugar to the cheap apples and make more profit.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe true in USA, not true here

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It’s only true in the U.S. if you live in a food desert or somewhere rural with a single walmart. Which admittedly is a problem here.

    But if you live anywhere with healthier stores like Sprouts and Whole Foods, you will find plenty of juice.

    Even my regular local regular supermarket carries various juices.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    It is approx 9 teaspoons of sugar per 300ml bottle. Typical tea cup mug is 250-300ml. Imagine putting 9 teaspoons of sugar in your tea or coffee. Fucking gross.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    That's exactly how I like my coffee and is the reason I don't drink coffee. I love the smell and it's great in desserts, but miss me with drinking steaming bitter piss. So glad I don't have a caffeine dependency.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    Such a fucking scam. I'm ok with "juice from concentrate", but this is literally more HFCS than juice. There should be no HFCS in juice; real juice has plenty of sugar all on its own.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    My problem is mostly that HFCS tastes like ass. I was expecting it to be a blend of apple juice, pear juice, and a hint of passion fruit.

    The health aspect is more about always keeping an easy to access non-beer thing in my fridge.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What's crazy to me is how the alternatives are often the same price.

    Buying Jelly (for peanut butter and jelly), 95% of the garbage out there uses HFCS. Then you have a few all natural ones with 3 ingredients and there's no difference in pricing. But apparently people aren't paying attention.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It’s an alternative to other things like soda or alcohol

    More like "something to add to alcohol". That's just about the only time I drink juice. Sugary drinks just aren't it for me.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Pure passion fruit juice would probably cost you 10-20$ per liter and it would be waaay too concentrated.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You can cut strong juice with other juice instead of with water and HFCS. Mixing passion fruit and orange juice at a level where it still mostly tastes of passion fruit makes something nice and not so expensive that it has to be sold at a different price to other orange juice.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes definitely, but from OPs context it seemed like they wanted a juice ready to drink.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Pre-mixed 100% juice drinks are readily available (depending on where you live). You don't have to buy several juices and mix them yourself if you're thirsty when walking past a shop as long as the shop stocks them.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    it would be waaay too concentrated

    100% is 100%. But yeah, you probably wouldn't like the taste.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Yes. Who drinks a cup of 100% lemon juice?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Me.
    A few times when I got smaller bottles of 100% lemon juice I just ended up drinking it as-is. But I'll also eat lemons if they are easy to peel.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I also like to take sips of lemon juice now and then, but a whole glass? Thats hardcore xD

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    All you need to do is read the label. Which you should always do for everything you buy.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    These things have so much fucking sugar in them it's actually crazy. I had one for the first time ever about a month ago (apple flavor I think) and it was so sweet I don't think I was able to even finish the thing. It's insane. I had no clue they were this over-sweetened based on how often I've seen the brand and I genuinely don't know how anyone drinks this stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    this is exactly how I feel about sugar in tomato sauce.

    I make it myself and dont add sugar. Was at someones house during dinner the other week. they made food for everyone. They used Jar sauce... 8mg of sugar per 1/2cup serving of sauce. 8! And they added so much salt on top, I called it a fasting day and didnt have any supper over there

    I dont understand how people live like that. Reminds me of years ago I met people who would put cows milk and sugar in their kids' sippy cups :(

    so much sugar is unpalatable.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    There's juice that's literally labelled in big huge text 100% juice, not from concentrate on the front of the bottle.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    which is also not good for you, just to be clear.

    one of my new years rezzies was to eat more fruit and it's been actually really enjoyable. Fresh mango, pineapple, cherries, grapes...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    "not good for you" is relative. Heavily dependent on individual case by case and against what standards. Sure, there are many better alternatives. But I'd argue there are even many more worse ones.

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    [–] 12 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    If in the USA, look for "100%[fruit] juice" in easily readable font.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    And also check if they add High Fructose corn syrup. If they do, don't bother.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    As far as I know, 100% fruit juice doesn't add sweeteners.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    The sweeteners are the sweeter juice that they add. Usually concentrated apple juice.

    That way they can continue to label it 100% juice and no sweeteners added and put on the nutrition label 0g added sugar, but still add a bunch of sweetness and sugar when formulating the product.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yes, you can get the 100% juice label by taking (e.g.) cranberry concentrate and the reconstituting using (e.g.) apple juice instead of water, adding calories and sweetness without adding a (non-juice) sweetener.

    On top of that, most of the juice aisle does not even qualify for the "100% juice" label.

    Gotta read the fine print on the label AND the government labeling regulations AND have some level of trust in the government to get what you want from a mass-market product. Local products and producers are not a panacea either.

    But, I'm going to overdose on ACE-K given the amount of Zero Sugar Mtn. Dew I think, so I'm not going to shame anyone for their favorite juice, whether it is "100% juice" or not, from concentrate or not, or whatever.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    What Canada doesn't tell you is that they permit 10 Micrograms of Beaver Essence in all products.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    On the lemonade, I assume that you are pointing out that it is cane sugar rather than HFCS?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Doesn't matter....lemon juice is acidic and cane sugar, or sucrose will undergo acid hydrolysis to glucose and fructose in an hour after bottling.

    Idiots importing Mexican coke should have paid more attention in grade 10 chemistry.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Juices like this also exist in the US...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Give it a year with the way your country is massively declining. Soon the FDA will classify straight sugar water is "juice".

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    Canadian nationalism is so strong. I like Canada, but it isn’t the best place on earth. On the internet though, you’d think it’s heaven.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    American's are upset their country is a fucking tire fire.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    It’s Canadian nationalism because in a conversation where nothing has to do with Canada, a Canadian brings up that Canada has 100% juice. Why bring up Canada? Why be disingenuous and act like Canada doesn’t have bullshit with HFCS too? The US also has 100% juice. Some Canadians on the internet always feel the need to compare themselves to Americans for seemingly no reason other than misguided nationalism showing superiority. It’s just pointless nationalism. You immediately went ad hominem that I have a shitty soul that doesn’t know peace and accused me of being a bot. It’s insane how quickly you jumped to that. Please insult me some more to prove your superiority. If my comment sowed discord and division, you need to toughen up—I even said I like Canada! The Canadian comment’s purpose was division. Get a grip.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah absolutely. Best case that's a real person that is salty their government lets businesses poison their customers and they are going to disparage any other government that protects their citizens in even the smallest way.

    Not to say that fructose is poison per se, just that regulations around food, food advertising, labeling etc are very good to have.

    I feel bad for OP, the convenience fruit drinks that are available here are mostly real fruit juice.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Do you actually think you can’t get 100% juice in the US? It’s pretty ridiculous to bring the US/Canada comparison into the conversation in the first place. Just like you can get Flavored Juice Drink in Canada, too.

    And yeah, it’s that mindless Canadian nationalism that is commonplace on the internet. Sorry I struck a nerve, but it is what it is.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    Please explain what’s silly? I’m pretty sure I was clear. What is so sad about calling out pointless nationalism? Are you Canadian? Are Canadian juices part of your cultural identity?

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You really enjoy talking down to people.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    100% passion fruit juice? I shudder.

    I don't know how the law is where you are, but around here there's a clear and simple word for 100% juice. But we also have the "juice drink". It's a little sad because people who don't bother with such things will fall for it over and over. But once you know the verbiage it's simple enough.

    What really fucks me up is how little juice there is in it, and how much fructose syrup. 😡 It's possible to produce affordable drinks that don't add any sugar. Apple or grape juice concentrate is cheap.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Part of this I believe can be attributed to labelling rules. Only the concentrate portion can be called juice.

    When it is made from concentrate the reconstituting water is the main ingredient. What's shitty is that water gets more and more sugar/HFCS mixed in so less concentrate is used. Getting it down to 10% or less like that: it's just flavoring the corn.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Aye, USA famously have terrible consumer rights so they can get away with shite like this

    EU and UK (for now) have stuff like the Square Bananas act and the False Advertising act where this would be classified as illegally lying to the consumers and get the product taken off of shelves.

    We even for USA imports have this policy that they must have their ingredients list covered by a more accurate sticker

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    The "drink" part of the description is the give away. 66% sugar, faaaark, diabetes in a bottle. Fuck that shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Just means you get corn juice in addition to all those fruit juices.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    Then look left 2 feet and buy anything but this trash.

    Skill issue.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Or perhaps we shouldn't create a society where buying juice requires having and using a skill.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm more annoyed that stores can have entire "juice" aisles, but only the last 10 or so ft. are 100% juice, only 2-3 ft. of which is organic. The rest are juice flavored drinks.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They just have the things people buy. Sugar water seems to be what people prefer over real juice, so that's what they make and sell in higher quantities.

    Education is probably the answer here, because people assume it's healthy. We'd definitely need better regulation on package labeling too.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    They stock things they make more profit on. If the margins on sugar water are much higher, then they don't need to sell as much to make it worth stocking it instead of juice. If the margins are higher because consumers are unaware they're being sold a cheaper-to-manufacture product for the same price because the packaging is deceptive to anyone who hasn't been told they have to look or is in too much of a rush to have time to look, then shops end up full of sugar water that few consumers actually want.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Most Americans would benefit from taking a look at a nutritional label once in a while. I couldn't give two fucks that someone has THE AUDACITY to make a.sugary drink and give someone the chance to purchase.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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