French President Emmanuel Macron announced Monday that France will increase its nuclear arsenal and, for the first time, allow the temporary deployment of its nuclear-armed aircraft to allied countries, in a new strategy aimed at strengthening Europe’s independence.

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[–] 75 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yay. Airborne nukes. I’m sure that’ll calm everyone down.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago*

    I find it weirdly reassuring that the muppets in charge are all hardcore capitalists and grifters and are the best guarantee they will push this as far as possible without destroying the planet or the economy.

    Not saying there will be no death and destruction, but in the end they’ll just want to keep grifting.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Why don't these peasants want to have more kids they ask. Because of fucking this

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Isn't this a good thing though it allows Europe to be more independent and not get dragged into US wars. 

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Many on the left are under the misapprehension that being a pacifist must mean being defenceless.

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, the world is completely defenseless without nukes.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The fact that the EU needs to defend itself adequately is not mutually exclusive with how all this nuclear proliferation lowers the birth rate.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    France has like 300 warheads vs russian 4.5K, plus russians started proliferating first. I say let them do it, sow the wind and all that. Birthrate is gonna be shit anyway while we have billionaires

    edit: if i were polish this nuclear proliferation would calm me down actually

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If somebody's not having kids because "nukes" then I suppose I'm happy they're not reproducing.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I imagine for most, it's the economy and enshitification of life in general.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Yeah I think this is much more of the case because nukes can be more of a distant thought since it hasn't happened yet and people haven't directly experienced it. Money and the high cost to do anything now I would say is a much bigger driver as people are experiencing that everyday and can't afford to have a kid

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, that's new, I'm pretty sure the coverage from before explicitly said no nuke loans. Or did that just mean permanently?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Vive la France!

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean why the fuck not? Everything is going to shit lets make it worse with mass deaths and radiation poisoning for the survivors. /S

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    There are sharks in the water, all of them nuclear powers, and the EU - especially the smaller countries that make up the majority - need a deterrence. Before, that was the US, but that path is blocked.

    I feel much better with France as the nuclear power preventing Russia and the USA from grabbing what land they can than with having the naive believe that the US will still come to our aid in the case Putin starts raiding the EU.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    And people keep denying we're are in WWIII.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Macron is so happy that the world is going to shit, which he hopes will let him be a little dictator

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    This is about Europe replacing the American military. Trump can't threaten to withhold military aid.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    And my point is that Macron loves the idea of using war and chaos as a way to become the hero that saved everyone and can now control the world.

    Macron's big heroes are people like de gaulle or Napoleon that were clearly dictators selling the dream of the benevolent, "chosen one"-like dictator. Macron feels like he is meant to be the one true leader, and situations like that are definitely making him very excited because he will have the opportunity to try to become one.

    Why do you think he's reacting only now? He's just been waiting for the right time to do whatever he can to increase his influence, just like he's been doing since before he even got elected.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    what are we even fighting over jfc

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, sure, let's pour more fuel on the fire, Macron, what could possibly go wrong?

    Can't wait for this skunk's presidency to be over.

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