US didnt think or care about our own people when "planning" this? Shocking.
I do hope they find a way out...
US didnt think or care about our own people when "planning" this? Shocking.
I do hope they find a way out...
Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, but isn't that like one of their major responsibilities?
US Embassies exist to protect the *people of the US in foreign settings.
*people as defined by Citizens United v. FEC (2010)
I lived in Saudi Arabia pre 9-11, and when Sadaam was getting Scudsy, they had people come from the embassy that gave my parents a card with instructions on what to do if there was a war. Part of that was a phone number where they could call anywhere in the country, and if you couldn't follow the instructions they'd send someone to collect you.
Man this is fucking pathetic seeing our government this fucking incompetent.
If competent people in so many departments got purged, can we still call this incompetent? I think it's about time we move over to malice.
Malice would be if they could do the jobs but refused. Incompetence stems from malicious removals, but it is incompetence because the people working are, in fact, incapable of doing the job.
State department can't always evacuate everyone. Can't spend the big bucks doing an extraction on every American because one building got hit. When the region was getting hot in 2021, state department had like five five-seater jump planes in the area to do everything.
Now you've got hundreds of people getting squirrelly and demanding a flight now when the airspace is not looking great.
Ransoming countrymen of the represented country is literally one of the oldest diplomatic functions on earth and is a big part of why embassies were established in the first place.
Your own source literally defines the term "diplomatic mission" as:
The basic role of a diplomatic mission is to represent and safeguard the interests of the home country and its citizens in the host country
So no, looking after the citizens of the represented country is NOT "secondary to the diplomatic mission" it IS the diplomatic mission.
Shame that's not what you said when I replied to you and then repeated several times in the course of this discussion.
Their main purpose, though, is to represent the state for relations and dealings with the host, citizen services are secondary to this.
Except that for Americans specifically, relying on the embassy for support and evacuation when a regional crisis arises has been a safe bet for nearly 100 years.
Certainly in the post-WWII era, if you followed the advice of the state department on not traveling to really dangerous places, and didn’t do something to get yourself into trouble (like getting involved in crimes), the US would use considerable resources to ensure an American citizen’s safe passage home. In fact, the hostility to Iran has some basis in the fact that Iran took over the American embassy during the revolution in 1978 and held the personnel hostage, a pretty blatant rejection of standard diplomatic norms. From a legal standpoint that was effectively an invasion of the US because an embassy is sovereign territory.
So regardless of your wording, this represents a pretty basic shift away from previous norms, especially given that the crisis people are fleeing is entirely a creation of the US government.
I said one of.
US embassies in Jerusalem and Qatar issued statements on Tuesday saying they could not help Americans leave the Middle East.
CORRECTION: US embassies in Jerusalem and Qatar issues statements on Tuesday saying they have CHOSEN NOT TO HELP Americans leave the Middle East.
Trapped Americans getting whoopsie-killed as shit all over the place gets blown up? That sounds like a great justification for throwing more money and lives at attacking the Epstein Files-- I mean, Iran.
Honestly I would be more surprised if it were simply a gutted and incompetent goverment, rather than intentional.
Them files gotta be a whole lot fucking worse than we think given the lengths they're going to distract people.
Look at the years that were witheld...

Do you happen to know the source for that infographic? I'd like to look deeper myself: 1999-2001 have Trump written all over them, even if only by inference, given the admitted dates of their "friendship" (if it ever ended at all).
Yeah I've deliberately put off fact checking and repeating that to be quite honest. The murmurs of the Internet were finally starting to unify against the rich. And to shut us up a possible runaway war was started. Everything is truly fucked.
The files are videos, apparently. Some folks around here keep posting the very large size of the seized trove, and it is a little shocking to think there would be that many .pdf files adding up to the total.
This regime probably thinks you don't deserve help if you chose to leave the Untied States
They adminstration that left people in Afghanistan dealing of the worst withdrawal of all time, happy to support a genocide, launching an illegal war, killing and imprisoning its own citizens and run by a pedo rapist will never care about anyone.
They can't even be bothered to take care of Americans at home. Why would they waste resources on anyone living abroad?
What were they doing in a war zone?
It wasn't a war zone until we attacked Iran…
Not a student of history, are we?
Okay, rephrasing it then "What are Americans doing in near proximity to a place that has been a war zone for more than 20 years due to US intervention in the region?" and the answer is "Either profiting off of US oil interests or propping up the tourism industry of US interested parties."
Do you think every place in the Middle East is at war? Dude, that's like saying every place in Africa is in poverty and starving. It's a big place.
And what about all the tourists propping up the US with tourism dollars, supporting a warmonger country? If you want to play Silly Buggers about the whole thing…
I think it's usually people with dual citizenship and Qatar wasnt a war zone until we made it that way.
If you voted for the bumbling pedo criminal and have front row seats for his piss poor planned shitshow, zero sympathy. I hope the water treatment plants fail during your visit.
Our government doesn't care about us beyond what we can do to make the rich richer. If we're not engaged in that effort 18 hours per day, then we should just fuck off and die, as far as they care.
As a MAGA with Family trapped and Probably going to DIE because of this I FULLY Support Trump for a Third Term because ONLY Trump can Fix what TRUMP BIDEN caused! I'm a FREE THINKER!
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