Every country should do this.
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Good move! Yet at the same time they’re buying Palantir software for the police and turning DK into a surveillance state nightmare 🥲
Anyone know what Linux distro? I assume Ubuntu...
Most likely one of the commercial ones that offer support and contractual guarantees of security patches, uptime, service, helpdesk support, etc.
So likely Ubuntu, SUSE, or RHEL.
Any of which would be a very welcome change and a benefit to the Linux community compared to using Windows.
Only SUSE is European, right? So either that or a lesser known one
I don't think so, because Ubuntu is also controlled by a private company, and Ubuntu has issues with open source, making everything they do dual license, meaning they can choose to switch away from open source to proprietary on everything developed within the Ubuntu framework.
So choosing Ubuntu would be incredibly short sighted. Debian is a much stronger candidate. Or an in house distro based on Debian, until a common EU distro is ready, which is already planned.
Again.
Every few years we hear a nations gov say this. Them m$ makes a deal to good to be true. And it all resets.
It's basically become an accounting trick for national govs.
This time its politics and not economics. Its not because Microsoft is getting too expensive. Its because Denmark wants to break free from big tech and dependency or other (big) countries
Microsoft will offer to build a big data warehouse there then.
For m$ it is very much about not having a big gov org successfully moved over. As then corps may consider it.
We already have more Datacenters than we should have considering the size of our country Including Microsoft.
They like to settle here, because they can get cheap renewable energy, which they then use as part of their advertising propaganda to claim they are working for a greener environment, when in reality it's Denmark that has made the investments in the infrastructure for it since the 70's to make it possible.
In the EU and its countries the agencies can't just send their data anymore to microsofts servers. They train is rolling.
True enough but we’re pretty serious about this shit in DK.
I’ll give them a call to make sure.
This is very true, but this time it's not just Denmark, it many countries in Europe, and it's also EU itself.
We are just among the first to have decided to begin implementing it.
I wonder how a corporate product deal would ever be cheaper than FOSS software. Bundled apps perhaps? And maybe central management? And maybe centralized or cloud-based storage and content management?
Tech support. Knowing you have available staff who understand how to fix issues. And will take responsibility
These are always the questions that sell commercial software over os to big corporations.
Anyone who has ever worked in a big corp recognises the arguments even if they disagree.
wtf the cookies banner on that site is fucked
Well it's the Danish ministry not the cookie ministry
A little while ago I met someone whose job is to worry about international affairs and they were worried about operating systems.
After that I started worrying about every end user device in Ukraine shutting down until peace was negotiated.
Will the donut and muffin ministries follow suit?
That webpage was basically impossible to view without consenting to third party cookies, some EU legislature malicious compliance. Does anyone have a transcript or footnotes?
From Word and Excel to LibreOffice: Danish ministry says goodbye to Microsoft Martin Holland The Danish Ministry of Digitization is to completely abandon Microsoft in the coming months and use Linux instead of Windows and switch from Office 365 to LibreOffice. Minister Caroline Stage (Moderaterne) announced this in an interview with the daily newspaper Politiken. It comes just a few days after the country's two largest municipalities initiated similar steps. This summer, half of the ministry's employees will be equipped with Linux and LibreOffice. If everything goes as expected, the entire ministry will be free of Microsoft by the fall, Politiken summarizes.
Far too dependent on a few providers
The Ministry of Digitalization's move away from Microsoft is therefore taking place against the backdrop of a new digitalization strategy in which the Kingdom's "digital sovereignty" is given priority. According to newspaper reports, the opposition is also calling for a reduction in dependence on US tech companies. Just a few days ago, the administration of the capital Copenhagen announced its intention to review the use of Microsoft software. The second-largest municipality, Aarhus, has already started to replace Microsoft services. Stage has now told Politiken that they should cooperate and that it is not a race. All municipalities should work together and strengthen open source.
When asked how her ministry would react if the changeover was not so easy, Stage replied that they would then simply return to the old system for a transitional period and seek other options: "We won't get any closer to the goal if we don't start." So far, she has only heard from employees who welcome the move. But in her ministry, which is mainly concerned with digitalization, she expects a lot of interest anyway. She also assured them that the initiative is not about Microsoft alone, as they are generally far too dependent on a few providers.
As background to the move, the article also refers to the events at the International Criminal Court, where an email account operated by Microsoft was disconnected. This caused an uproar across Europe. In Denmark, there is also the fact that the new US President Donald Trump has been announcing for weeks that his country wants to take over Greenland. The island in the North Atlantic is a self-governing part of Denmark, and the outrage at Trump's proposal is huge. The desire to reduce dependence on US companies is therefore evidently even greater there than in the rest of Europe.
(mho)
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Positive sign. This country is always ahead of the curve.
Meh I think it's subjective. I don't like the direction they are going (not in terms of getting rid of Microsoft).
While this is a great first step, I would like to remind you, that this is only one ministry containing maybe a couple of thousands employees.
As a comparison Copenhagen Municipality has around 45.000 employees - not all of them requiring computers of course.
But it illustrates that if real change is the ambition, nothing is going to happen before the municipalities gets involved.
And employees of a digitalisation ministry of course if gonna get excited, but imagine 60 year old Hanne Andersens uproar, when she hears that she has to learn a new OS or software suite to process drivers license applications or document travel expenses for s a disabled child.
So while it is great it starts to get some publicity, that we are highly dependent on a few very greedy and morally ambiguous corporations, it is just a very small first step, with a very long and hurdled road in front of us, that will get very little publicity.
Which distro
It kinda pisses me off that they used an ANSI keyboard for ths picture and not ISO. No true Scotsman Dane uses ANSI.
EDIT: No true Scotsman either, come to think of it 🇪🇺⌨️
Did they also replace the enter key with the Danish flag? Makes sense, they love Danish flags on everything m
Half the comments on HN these days feel like tech-broligarch propaganda.
All big companies have social media monitors to analyse posts about themselves, analyzing sentiment and then counter negative news with their vast trove of astroturfing bots. The social media is setup to be as opaque to the world as it can be, to be manipulated.
There's always going to be someone outside or inside the company (considering how big some companies are) defending, then marketing moves them to the top. Deflect and divide opinions and shame naysayers.
It's been going on since forever, now enhanced with AI.
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