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[–] 263 points 8 months ago* (56 children)

IF you're actually curious, it was because we used to import them, and the importers would dye them red due to discoloration in how they were harvested. Domestic production ramped up in the US and since pistachios didn't have to travel as far, and because modern harvesting was more mechanized. It was easier to wash, dry, roast and salt them in a shorter time period avoiding the discoloration that required the dye in the first place.

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  • [–] 65 points 8 months ago (24 children)

    Wait, this is real? I thought this was a joke...

    Like "Back in my day, bananas were bright purple, but that breed died out."

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    I also figured this was just a "let's screw with the youth"-type post. We used to eat pistachios all the time when I was a kid (I'm 35) and I don't think I've ever seen a red one before today. They were always beige/greenish.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    We over-60s remember when pistachios were red, airplane security was non-existent and everywhere smelled like cigarettes.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm two decades younger and remember all that except red pistachios. And my family used to eat a lot of pistachios.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I'm also 35, and I remember the red ones. But my mom ate a lot of pistachios and sunflower seeds when she quit smoking in the mid 90s

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Now smoking is much more financially responsible than eating pistachios

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Where? In EU and Australia at least tobacco is taxed to high heaven and costs like 10+ western money units (take whichever, dollar or euro, still roughly applies) a pack/pouch

    I pay 14.30€ for a 30g pouch of rolling tobacco. And it's probably more expensive the next time I buy because the pack before that was 13.50€. There's a few price-hikes every year.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm in the US but it varies state to state. Some states are dirt cheap while others are insanely high. Probably 8 to 10 dollars a pack on average around me

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Oh well, it's still a bit cheaper than here, relatively.

    But I remberer lots of people saying how they were gonna quit once packs hit 5€. And at the time it felt like something crazy that would never happen, and packs cost like 3 or at most 4€ then.

    I mean yeah, I don't consume as much cigarettes nowadays, in fact none, but am still a smoker as I don't like smoking weed without tobacco, but I also don't like smoking tobacco without weed.

    My opinion is just that vice taxes are shit, because while there might be an argument made, it disproportionately affects people of different income. What's a pack of ciggies tripling their price to someone with high and stable income? Nothing. What is it to the lowest classes? With minimum wage back in idk say 2005 you only needed to work like 15-20min to earn enough for ciggies, now it's definitely more than an hour. And that's not counting income taxation etc, just from gross pay.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I'm 38 and remember red pistachios. Also remember finding some sort of worm thing burrowed into one of those red pistachios, while I was sitting at my grandfather's kitchen table eating pistachios. Didn't stop me. Well, it stopped me from eating that one. But I'm always leery if a pistachio has a hole in it.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    It's absolutely real; there's a joke about it in The Naked Gun.

    It's not that there used to be a red variety of pistashio, they were sold coated in this oily red gunk that would stain your fingers pink. That stopped at some point in the late 90's early 2000s.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    The real answer is that yes, they were red, but no it wasn't because they were poor quality.

    It's because the world's largest exporter was Iran, and Iran had a blanket policy of dying their pistachios red.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I also thought this was a joke until I read the comments. Pistachios have always been pistachio coloured in the rest of the world.

    There's something very American about drowning a perfectly healthy natural product in brightly coloured dye.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Iran died them before export. Not Americans.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Presumably at their request, or at least their approval, since it doesn’t seem to be a thing in any other country. Most products in the US are imported, don’t pass the buck. “Iran forced it on us” goes against absolutely everything else we know about US consumers.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Nope. It's real. I was actually thinking about this the other day and just "wondered". Probably got busy with work and forgot to Google it and then this. I remembered them being red when I was a kid. Now I know why.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    There are still some dark purple bananas out there. They are usually less than 1/2 the size of a normal (cavendish?) banana. They don't taste as good to me but many people love them.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    many different kinds of bananas and plantains

    and even the "original banana-flavour"-banana is still around, the kind is called "grand michel" and can still be bought, but is no longer suitable for mass farming (due to some fungi/bacteria vulnerability)

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  • [–] 78 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    I see, so that's why they have never been red outside the US

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Ok that makes sense because I (a 30+ yo canadian) was so confused.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It’s also about ten years out of date, 25 year olds today probably wouldn’t recognize this

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm 47 and have never seen this. I only remember pistachios in ice cream but they werent fucking red.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Pistachio ice cream was never red afaik, just the plain/salted nuts in shell. They also used to be way more expensive, so I only remember seeing them a couple times. I mostly just remember the color of my fingers after eating them.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Youre not paying attention like most in here. Or are just looking for another reason to hate on "the others"

    https://www.bulkbarn.ca/en/Products/All/Mediterranean-Red-Pistachios-Dry-Roasted-and-Salt

    Red pistacios still available in canada right now

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I'm blocked for some reason and can't access the page.

    Might still be a (North) America thing. All I know is that I'm over 30 and I have never seen red pistaccios in Germany. I remember that as a kid, I didn't like them but my brothers did and I'm pretty sure, I would remember if they were red. Sorry for spreading all the hate.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Similiar reason cheddar is orange. Cheesemakers used to die it to cover inconsistences in quality or rot.

    At this point, cheddar is almost perfectly homogenous, but people expect it to be orange, so its orange.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    In the same vein... Maraschino cherries aren't red, they are golden.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Those are cherries that are not yet Marachino. Light-colored cherries are used because the darker ones don't bleach enough to look good with the dye they use. Maraschino cherries are whatever color they are dyed with (usually red).

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So if in the 80s I lived in an area that didn't import them already, say, Fresno, the joke would go over my head? Because I sure as hell don't remember red pistachios

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit you are pinning my exact experience. I grew up in Fresno CA and have never even seen a red pistachio in my life.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Well howdy neighbor! I grew up a few (not gonna say the amount) miles north of you. If you're in your mid 40s we might have competed against each other in sports/music/&c. growing up.

    Beautiful area, great food, no?

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    So is a US defaultism kinda thing huh

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I hate this idea of "us defaultism" being labeled on anything that even remotely involves the US. This isnt us defaultism, this is someone from the US sharing something about the US worded to be for someone for the US. I see this numerous different times with different topics for different countries, but I don't go "oh this is German defaultism, oh this is Zimbabwean defaultism." It's a fun fact that you're taking too seriously because you have a hate boner for the US, which is honestly fair.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I world disagree because vast majority of the posts from different countries are labeled so (e.g. “In Germany, we had so and so”). Posts from US are almost never labeled so, hence the “defaultism”

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The shell of the pistachio is naturally a beige color, but it may be dyed red or green in commercial pistachios. Originally, dye was applied to hide stains on the shells caused when the nuts were picked by hand.[51] In the 21st century, most pistachios are harvested by machine and the shells remain unstained.[51] Wikipedia

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Well now I'm wondering what those stains were. Did they dye them red because the people picking them had their hands bleeding? We were all just ingesting small amounts of laborer's blood?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but as technique improved, there was less blood introduced on average and the pistachios would not be evenly coloured. To preserve the impression of quality, the farms then adopted the policy of wringing the worst performing worker of each batch of their blood to cover the batch in red homogeneously. This motivated improved performance batch on batch (less blood) and eventually, two workers had to be wrung, and at some point the remaining workers got so good that no blood was introduced and a drastic policy change had to take place.

    That or automation.

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  • [–] 71 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I know it's common for actors to not really eat when filming a scene in which the character is eating but it almost adds to the joke that we never really see them eating the pistachios. They're just fidgeting with the bags and chewing on nothing.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    Warwick Davis (best known for his roles as Wicket the Ewok or Willow) told this story from when he was an extra at the pod race in Star Wars Episode 1.

    He had an awesome looking cocktail and he made the fatal mistake of taking three large sips in the first take. And of course he had to repeat that action every take. And they had to do many takes. Trouble was (apart from the enormous amount of liquid) that the cocktail tasted absolutely awful. But as a professional he stuck to his role of course.

    Those takes never made it into the movie. They aren't even available as cut scenes or still photos.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Was this a regional thing? In my memory, they were all dyed green.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Pistachios are native to Iran, and until the 1970s Iran was the world's largest exporter. They dyed their exports with a food safe red.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I'm 31 and I've never in my life seen red pistachios in the UK and I've been eating them all my life. What kind of fuck-ass pistachios did you Americans get wtf?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Hey bud I've got some bad news for you.

    What number do you see in this circle?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    When I was a kiddo in the 80s, pistachios and other shelled nuts were commonly a winter holiday thing and I rarely ate whole nuts otherwise. I think peanuts, almonds and cashews are the exceptions, but they were almost always without shell. It's been a few decades, but I remember having red and green (default, I guess, but maybe dyed green as well?) pistachios at Christmas and having to fight with the shells to get them out. They were the tastiest and I didn't care much for walnuts, chestnuts or pecans.

    Searching about 'red pistachios' also suggests it was a way to hide lower quality nuts. I'm not fully convinced about that, though, because I remember red dyed things tasting terrible as a kid. I don't think most modern red food coloring tastes bad, but it used to. The amount of dye that made it on to the edible portion may not have affected the nut's flavor too much, though.

    All that to say: It could have been a marketing gimmick?

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    We used to get the red ones around Christmas. I just thought they were decorative for the holidays, like Hersey's kisses changed to Christmas color wrapping

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I'm 34 and have never heard of these.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Was pistachio ice cream also red?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Fun fact, the ketchup chips in Canada were inspired by these

    /s

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    US defaultism

    this is mostly a US thing

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Red-dyed ones were all over the middle east when I was a kid, but I've never once seen them in the US sold this way. I think it just depended on what exporter importer your region mainly used.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    32, American, never seen a red pistachio

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