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[–] 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Headlight height regulations and lumen limits. If a transport truck can have reasonably placed head lights, so can the f250.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I've been thinking about this stuff since I moved to a place where nights are very dark and people use high beams much more liberally (and inconsiderately)

    It's it possible to have some sort of lumen-activated glass tinting? Something to protect the receiving end?

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think ive heard of glasses that do something similar in the sunlight. I think auto makers will be hesisitant because if it fails to revert back the low visibility could be hazardous and result in a lawsuit. I think we can solve this problem with proper regulation rather than add even more tech to new cars. Along with lumen limits the "warmth" (kelvin) of the lights may be regulated as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I believe any kind of window tint on windshields is illegal in the United States. Even electrochromic tint that is 100% transparent most of the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    My understanding is that thwres a a federal limit of like 30% light being blocked for windshields, with most states having stronger regulations.

    My state, Mass, only allows any tint in the top 6" for instance. BUT, its really easy to get a waiver, overriding that. All it requires is taking a doctor's note documenting photosensitivity to the DMV.

    Back in highschool, my friend's mom had glaucoma, and got her car tinted. Because he was on his parent's insurance, that made her a registered user of his car, and also entitled him to tint his out. He had his windshield tinted to about the darkness of a medium pair of sunglasses.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Enforcement would help. The biggest problem in my locality is lifted trucks that become retina destroyers to reasonable-height cars. I don't think I've ever heard of someone getting a ticket here for having too-bright headlights.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't understand how lifted trucks where the bumpers are lifted as well and are well above those of all the other vehicles on the road are legal.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Alternative response: retroreflective mirror

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    unfortunately you'd need a quite large surface for it to be effective

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Not if they're slightly hyperbolic.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    There is a quick fix, sealed beams.

    There was a time when all cars in the US had round headlights. That's because there was only one headlight and all cars were mandated by law to use it. That law can be reimplemented at any time. It would fix the headlights as soon as it goes into effect.

    Car makers would hate it. It would ruin a lot of their styling and marketing having to use the one and only headlight. Which would make it an effective deterrant. Any major government using sealed beam laws as a threat would make the industry self regulate quickly.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I support a return to round sealed beam headlights. Especially if we can have pop-ups again.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    90% they have every light on people don't take the time to figure out their cars so drive about with fogs on full blast 24/7

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Ok, here's how you fix it:

    1. Calculate how many headlights need changing and how much it will cost
    2. Create a fund for that amount.
    3. Announce that in a 1.5 years headlight regulation changes and all cars need to adapt.
    4. During annual checks verify the lights. If they don't comply with the regulation send driver to regulate/change them for free (covered by fund established in 2)
    5. After 1.5 years do random checks. Each car that still doesn't comply gets towed. The owner can either pay for the tow and fixing the lights and can't recover their car.

    Just saying there are new requirements would be unfair to poor people that bought a car before the new regulation. They would have to spend extra money now to fix something they are not responsible for.

    Saying that car manufacturers have to fix all their cars would be unfair because they were selling car that complied with all regulations. This would not stand in court.

    That's why there's no quick fix. Doing it fairly will be complicated and it will cost money. It's easier for politicians to ignore the issue.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    during annual checks

    Most of north america doesn't do that. Some place require a safety check to initiate insurance, after that most just wait for things to break or get pulled over by a cop/ministry of transportation.

    Im also a little iffy about #2. We already subsidize drivers enough, making them pay for their lights or at least partly pay sounds reasonable.

    I think a middle ground solution would be add the regulations for new cars and enforce the regulation when a noncompliant car changes owners. This way buyers of used cars should be able to research if that cost is likely to impact their model or not. It doesn't take all the headlights off the road at once but it starts phasing out the problematic cars.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Most of north america doesn’t do that.

    Clearly, a solution for civilized countries :)

    But I agree, you can either pay and get the problem solved faster or pass the cost to drivers and wait a decade or more to phase out problematic cars.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Just put the onus on car and bulb sellers going forward, then tack on a req for antiques that goes into effect in stages, probably paired with registration renewals. That way it's not an all-at-once burden, and most people can know about the transition well in advance. No surprises.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    Have you tried baseball bats?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This article is from the UK, and nobody plays baseball over there.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So let’s get this straight: you’re driving along at night, a car driving toward you on the other side dazzles you with excessively bright lights, you roll down the window and grab your baseball bat, lean out the window and smash their headlights with the bat.

    But what do you do about the lights on the other side of the car? They’re not so easy to reach from your side of the road!

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    They've spent their entire lives bedazzling everything from hair to toenails to purses and beyond. They're not finding the way to de-bedazzle the lights, because they're not looking for one.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Interesting stats, if caveated

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Collisions dropped suddently in 2020. What could have possibly caused it???

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Death is not the only concern.

    You don't just not beat your dog because it doesn't kill it.

    These lights are too bright, they cause discomfort and stress out blinded drivers, and make driving at night impossibly for many who could otherwise drive safely before they were introduced.

    For many night driving has become a rather traumatic experience, and that negatively effects them and other people as a result.

    Imagine wearing a shocking dog bark collar and not knowing when it's gonna go off, but knowing it could, and you are also operating a 2 ton vehicle at 60mph on a busy and notoriously deadly stretch of road with your adorable 3 year old twins buckled in the back seat.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Idk, as a cyclist I’ve been blinded at night by other cyclists as often as cars.

    Don’t mistake me, I have plenty of reasons to share the “fuck cars” ethos, but LED headlights aren’t even in the top 10.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    idk man a hammer to the headlight seems like a pretty quick fix to me

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    In my daydreams that sounds like a great idea. In reality I think the law would probably close in on me for doing that.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    between flock and doorbell cams, you'd certainly need to take precautions carefully

    hopefully someday soon we reach a critical mass where the average person realizes how fucking shit and assholey these LED headlights are

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I was disappointed by the scene in 'fight club' where they hit the modern vw beetle with baseball bats.
    They did virtually no damage.

    Make sure you use a big pointy hammer.

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    [+] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They bring up the very valid point of various vehicle heights. Some vehicles are smaller and shorter, others are bigger and taller.

    Let's consider an analogy, where a larger taller vehicle is an adult, and a smaller shorter vehicle is a child. Now you, as an adult, aim a flashlight forward, but somewhat downward, you'll still be shining your flashlight right into the eyes of children in front of you.

    Now back to actual vehicles, they also have rear view mirrors, meaning that the driver and occupants of smaller vehicles are getting blinded both from in front and behind.

    If only there was a standard for how high the headlights are off the ground, regardless of vehicle height. Sigh, that ship apparently done sailed though..

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    If only there was a standard for how high the headlights are off the ground, regardless of vehicle height. Sigh, that ship apparently done sailed though…

    Can't change it for existing vehicles, but can for new ones. The existing ones will eventually age out.

    EDIT: I suppose that it might also be ultimately obsoleted as an issue on the receiving end if either:

    • Everyone winds up using a self-driving car.

    • If we shift to vehicles that don't have glass windows, like, just rely fully on cameras and displays. We already have vehicles doing things like providing radar HUD warnings and camera displays. We could move all the way to displays. It does make the continued functioning of the camera and display system functioning life-critical, which is not a trivial move to take


    if it fails, you're now fully blind at highway speeds


    but it could solve a lot of other issues, like helping older drivers with degraded vision. And for self-driving cars, the computer vision system is already life-critical, so...shrugs it's a problem that has to be dealt with anyway. If you're using cameras, then you can post-process the stuff and do whatever you want, merge data from infrared cameras, outline people and vehicles, get the blind spots from the pillars out of the way, whatever. Would also permit for cars to be a lot more secure and have better thermal and sound insulation.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    How many accidents are caused by glare? And how many more than decades in the past? Pretty sure it's almost none.

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