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Yes there is: it's a Ponzi scheme (AI companies will fail when they get no new funds to pay off the stockholders)
Are they paying off stockholders?
I like electron finance
Their exact location cannot be pinpointed; instead, they exist in a probability cloud where they are likely to be found at any given time.
That's what this hype cycle is founded on. If I lend you $5, you have $5 you can lend further. Now, we each still have a right to $5, so we can lend that debt obligation again for $4.50. Now we have, somehow, a market value of $19.
Until someone looks, then it's probably 0.
Unfortunately there’s no good term for that, I guess.
Market manipulation?
It's a racket, plain and simple. There used to be laws against this sort if thing.
It’s called Imaginary Economics.
It tends to happen right before a capitalist system fails.
It tends to happen right before a capitalist system fails.
How often does this happen that we can claim this correlation? 🤔
About once every 350 years... With a sample size of 3... 😅
So you're saying which empires/systems exactly then?
Spain perhaps? The Holy Roman empire?
It’s about to. The very nature of it, means you can only have a sample size of one.
And when do you predict this will occur? When should I have built my nuclear shelter so I know when to start building it?
Too late for that I’m afraid. It already happened. It just takes a while before the [citation needed] folks understand that past performance is not a guarantee for future success.
Lol sure, any time now, just one more year bro, just one more year and it will collapse bro, promise.
Maybe the usa will collapse a bit (because those people are often americans that don't know there are other countries out there) but that's another story.
I highly recommend staying ignorant honestly. It’s a much lighter burden to carry than seeing all the datapoints and seeing the collapse as a certainty. Have a good life, seriously.
if you want to be treated seriously maybe provide some proof instead of saying that you're attuned to all datapoints and can therefore see the future lol
I don’t want to be treated seriously on this platform about that subject.
If you’re curious you can find it but it won’t be thrown in your lap, as people would simply stop working/paying taxes or have children or fight the elites wars for them if the collapse data becomes widespread knowledge.
But as I said, there is nothing serious about this, and the best advice I can give is to simply enjoy life and appreciate precious moments with loved ones.
I don’t want to be treated seriously on this platform about that subject.
Mission accomplished. You sound you're talking through a tinfoil hat.
We ask explicitly for information because we want to know. We want enlightenment because we're not content with just living our lives in ignorance until the suffering starts, we want to be as prepared as we can for it. We have many years ahead of us. And you're purposefully withholding information because you "don't want to be taken seriously"? "On this platform"? For what?
If you have this information, just provide it. Let us be the judge of what we want with our lives.
What, you're withholding it because you don't have much time left in life and you just want to live calmly the rest of your days while we are slaving away for capitalism so it won't collapse during your lifetime? That would be very selfish.
Please make sense of this. Thanks.
Well you asked kindly.
I don’t want to have a conversation about this, but if you study a little bit of (ancient) history, sociobiology, look at when our currencies became decoupled from gold standards, then take in the climate data, and our real economic data (not quarter returns of silicon valley, but real metric tons of food produced, how that supply chain works and how it is already being affected by climate change), then figure out where you are on the food order list, and how close you are to sea level. People in Sudan are already experiencing what will come to most of Europe in the next 1 maybe 2 decades. There is so much more to this, but you need a serious stomach to digest it all. I went through it once, and I wouldn’t recommend it, hence my reluctance to share or encourage people to go on this journey.
The most important part is: we really don’t understand much of how complex the myriad of systems that are keeping us at this very nice level of living way above our means. But we do know everything is connected, and through Earth System Science we know that the collapse of a few pillars will cascade into other areas.
Just writing it I can sense how you will push back that that’s not specific enough, and that’s fair, but the full picture took me many years, and I couldn’t point to a single piece of literature or data for you. If you want to know, you’ll find it.
Also be mindful that this isn’t just a knowledge change, but a change to your belief system as well.
But somewhere I think you do know or you wouldn’t respond like that.
We have never in the recorded history of this planet have had an economy that is so vastly disconnected from the resource reality below it. We have never had so much poverty, poor education, healthcare for the lower classes against such an over the top wealth for the few billionaires. We have never been with this many mouths to feed. Most of us are now living in a world with 2 to 3 times as many people than when we were born. Housing and healthy food production did not scale at the same level. There are now more armed conflicts happening simultaneously than ever before. While that is all going on, the climate and our environment are basically done.
- CO2: 427.49 ppm (Dec 2025); May 2025 peak 430.5 ppm — first time exceeding 430 ppm. Rate: +3.75 ppm/yr, ACCELERATING (+0.160 ppm/yr²)
- Temperature: +1.34°C (2025, 3rd warmest). Three-year avg 2023-2025 exceeds 1.5°C for the first time
- Sea level rise: 4.5 mm/yr — doubled since 1993. Acceleration: 0.077 mm/yr²
- Carbon budget (1.5°C): ~170 Gt CO2 remaining (~4 years at current rate). Effective budget tighter due to overestimated CO2 fertilisation
- Planetary boundaries: 7 of 9 transgressed — ocean acidification confirmed as 7th (Planetary Health Check 2025)
- First tipping point crossed: Warm-water coral reefs at 1.4°C (irreversible)
- Ocean heat: 23 ZJ absorbed in 2025 (record, 9th consecutive)
- Fossil emissions: 38.1 GtCO2 in 2025 (new record, +1.1%)
- WAIS collapse precursor detected — all model ensembles show Thwaites/Pine Island collapse
- Methane: 1940.59 ppb (Sep 2025) — decelerating from post-2020 surge
I want to believe in positive human collaboration. But absent a miracle and aliens landing with tech far beyond our reach or understanding, these changes are locked in. If we locked down the entire planet and froze the economy tomorrow, these metrics would not change by much.
Most people on this platform will not grow as old as their parents are today.
Enjoy your life, this amazing planet with so many wonders and beautiful people. Create close knit small communities. If you survive, it will be back to basics. Assuming you live in US/Europe, you might have another 10-20 years of relatively good life, though that might be optimistic.
remember that the end of the world has been caluclated many, many times now. sometimes with vibes, sometimes with actual data, and so far it hasn't happened, somehow we keep on persevering despite everything
however sure you are of your estimates, the world is to chaotic to ever truly know
I think there have definitely been times more grim than this, and we somehow made it through. Climate is a cycle, sometimes a change, life will go along with it, perhaps in another form, until the sun cannot sustain it anymore.
I agree with your comment on every point. We can't ever know, and I think no matter how much data you collect you can't know for sure what ideas or agreements will happen in 20 years' time. Unless someone promises to nuke the planet in 20 years of course. Then again someone might probably assassinate that mf.
Kinda weak sauce dude. It's just a bunch of stuff most of us already know. It doesn't account for how adaptable people have proven to be. It's far from inevitable that any of this will lead to permanent civilizational collapse. Though certainly the dudebro types like Fuckerberg think it will, but I think they're just paranoid, and not as smart as they think they are.
I find it hard to take people seriously when they start their argument off with gold too. Gold is no different from fiat currency. It's only worth as much as people think it is. Historically it wasn't even used for anything practical. It's one of my smell tests for people who have bad critical thinking skills, quite frankly. If fiat currency was such a terrible idea then the whole world would be in far worse shape than it is.
Wealth, and by extension, education, and healthcare gaps have always existed. Probably in more tangible ways too.
Rockefeller, Masu, Wu, Khan, and more are considered to have had more wealth than anyone alive today, and usually in actual ownership of tangible things. The poor of those eras were much more poor and much worse off in almost all aspects compared to the poor of today.
I'm not holding my breath.
We've been hearing about an AI crash practically since the hype train started.
People can see the trends and see how it will probably break down in some way, the problem is that the market can stay irrational longer than we can stay solvent. It helps that these dipshits seem to have forgotten that money equals abstract resources and creating new resource issues that'll certainly put pressure on them in a more direct way either through legislation or via sabotage of required infrastructure.
It's the biggest bubble seen to date. It has all the characteristics, and it will crash eventually.
Is this a thing? Because what comes to mind for me is "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent," which just happens sometimes
A mismatch between supply and demand is called a shortage. The source is irrelevant.
Supply monopolization?
Consumer fraud?
Sherman Act cartel market manipulation.
Section 1 of the Sherman Act prohibits price fixing and the operation of cartels, and prohibits other collusive practices that unreasonably restrain trade.
It’s shitty AI companies buying RAM
It's greedy manufacturers selling it all to them in the first place and other market segments be damned.
I'm no AI fan but the manufactures aren't angels either.
The shovel makers and shovel sellers always get rich in a gold rush
If your boss offered you a raise for the same work, would you turn it down?
Not the same.
The money is fixed. You getting a raise means the money has to come from somewhere- which means the boss taking a pay cut or the customers paying more.
Still not the same, i don't work for any of those manufacturers - and if i did i sure as hell wouldn't care if their CEOs got a paycut to benefit the consumers. Won't someone please pity the CEOs...
I'm referring to the relationship between someone offering you more money for the same work the difference of which gets passed on to consumers.
A few consumers are going to a business and offering more money for the same work. The consumer is the business's boss just like your boss might offer you more money. You aren't going to turn down the raise because it will hurt other consumers just like the business isn't going to turn down the money even though it will cost other consumers more.
and if i did i sure as hell wouldn’t care if their CEOs got a paycut to benefit the consumers
I brought that up because that wasn't going to happen. If you get a raise, your boss isn't going to take a paycut to make it happen. The raise comes from the consumers.
Frustratingly this is not just affecting the current generation of devices, but the previous one too. DDR4 RAM (which I use in my desktop) has gone up 300% since I bought it a few years ago.
Here's hoping that nobody needs to replace current or previous gen hardware if it breaks in the next 2 years...
I overbuilt my system when I bought it and am glad I did. I also prioritize heat management.
Yeah so glad I went with 32GB when ram was cheap.
Same. Spent about 65 € I think, now it's looking like > 200 €
I bought some expensive ram back when i bought my current CPU to maximize Factorio and that was about 200 €. Don't even want to know how much it would be today. Also cheaped out and bought 16Gb ram for my home automation server last summer for less than 50€. Regrets hits me now as more would totally be better.
Yeah even used ram is going for like 2x-3x the price I bought it at new. I just checked and similar capacity (4x 8GB) at lower speed (3200 compared to 3600) would cost me about 300-400€ now. And I paid about 70-80€ back then
Me too. But I learned a while back that my cpu or slots are fucked and I can only have one stick installed at a time.
So I'm drowning in RAM that I cannot use. I could sell the RAM and get another motherboard but then I won't have the RAM!
It's not fair.... It's not fair.
That's so "Gift of the Magi" 😭
I, too, am glad that I added two more RAMs when they were cheap. Hopefully if one of them died, I can still have a decent machine in the foreseeable future.
Many RAM producers have simply stopped producing DDR4, because it isn't used in data centers.
I wish Sam Altman to encounter difficulties every time he had to use bathroom and increased chance of his phone fell to the toilet all the time.
My most recent hobby has been an old Suzuki Samurai that I dragged out of the woods a few years ago. It doesn't use much RAM. It doesn't even have fuel injection.
I've also been getting back into archery with my kid.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think that making it harder to get a computer and play games is a huge miscalculation. If everyone is distracted by Call of Battle: Dutyfield then you have fewer bored assholes casting about for something to do, and if people can still play Factorio, you don't end up with bored, autistic, organized assholes casting about for something to do.
Does this mean no smart fridges?
Coz that would be cool
i'd be willing to suffer another year of ram shortage if that meant all smart devices fucked off
maybe we could even see actual physical buttons on devices again! i miss buttons and toggles
You think companies would cut off ad revenue and pass cost savings to customers?
Fridges will get MORE expensive to ensure that you see ads on your fridge.
No, it means your smart fridge be AI enabled and you'll have to prompt the goddamn door open.
Also, it costs $3000 and it's the cheapest model.
I would LOVE to believe this will force automakers to return to using buttons instead of touchscreen.
Yeah, I know. But I'd sure love to believe it.
I think this will be required to get full score on the safety test in Europe soon, so hopefully it can bleed into the global car market in a few years.
Hyundai Motor group said they would commit to buttons but the leaks of the ioniq 5 refresh look like all the other chinese crap out there with a bigass tablet in the middle.
Also fuck Elon and Tesla for starting that shit
https://i.imgur.com/LgWLZsG_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand
They're going back to rotary dials in some cases because touch-only is bad for safety scores.
As for putting everything behind a separate button again, that's just too expensive unfortunately. I wish they'd at least do it for premium cars, but honestly anything short of a Bentley or Rolls is still fairly buttonless.
The number of touch screen clicks I need to turn my windshield wipers on is just plain dangerous.
I’m old enough to remember a time when windows were rolled up by hand. It wasn’t perfect, but you never had to turn your car on again to deal with a window forgotten open.
Wait, touch screen for windshield wipers‽ Fuck that shit. It's supposed to be a stalk opposite the turn signals because it's safety critical. What next, touch screen for your turn signals‽
a time when windows were rolled up by hand
If you are talking about using the handle, then there are still plenty of cheaper cars that have that, depending upon where you are looking.
I don't think I've seen manual windows in a car for at least 15 years. My lowest trim absolute base model civic in 2012 still had electric windows and would have been the same for the whole gen so at least 2010 for Honda. My 03 Saturn ion had manual windows (and the little thumb stick for the drivers mirror, my bae) but base model manual windows were already on the way out around then, at least in the US.
The Slate Truck has them, so assuming that that goes into production, it'll be an example.
The Slate Truck's base configuration, called the "Blank Slate", does not include an infotainment system, speakers, or power windows.
I like the function some cars have when you can old down the lock button to close all windows (and unlock to open them), without starting your car.
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