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[–] 114 points 8 months ago (17 children)

Yeah but I cannot find any HDDs

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  • [–] 81 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

    I am SO pissed off about this AI hardware grab causing global shortages, im about to revert to using fucking tape drives for storage and core rope memory as RAM.

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  • [–] 66 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Its by design, I swear. They don't have anywhere to run any of this gear, its all piling up somewhere.

    Either that or it doesn't exist and what we're seeing is price gouging based on hypothetical demand based off of "letters of intent" that aren't actually worth the paper they're written on.

    I think its the latter.

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It’s definitely the latter. These are writing contracts to buy hardware that has yet to be produced for data centres that haven’t been built. All so they can satisfy a demand that doesn’t yet exist for a product no one is going to be willing to pay for.

    It will crash. This whole grift is too expensive to keep going. The naysayers keep forgetting that hardware gets old, it wears out and fails, and gets superseded by newer models. The chip makers are riding high now because the idiotic belief of the market is that this will keep growing as the data centres keep being built and the AI companies will keep buying new hardware.

    It just can’t. This candle is burning fast at both ends.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yep, Western Digital said they were sold out of drives for all of 2026. Since 2026 is just starting, they haven't actually produced those drives or gotten actual money for them.

    Hopefully the bubble pops soon, though I hate that Americans' 401Ks and IRAs will take the brunt of the "losses" when it does.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    The whole thing is speculation because its based off the back of letters of intent, no real contracts for anything. Its all still, currently, smoke and mirrors until something is inked and someone gets paid (or atleast, finance agreed)

    So right now, we're watching bullshit speculators sink the market. And/or restricted supply being used to milk us like cows.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Yep, Western Digital said they were sold out of drives for all of 2026. Since 2026 is just starting, they haven't actually produced those drives or gotten actual money for them.

    This is exceedingly normal procedure for manufacturing companies, and not limited to tech industry by any means. They know how much they can potentially produce on their lines, if they have predicted customers to fulfill the capacity for a full year they are basically sold out despite not having produced most of it yet.

    The company I work for also has "sold out" for several of our factories because we have orders for 110% production capacity on them. Orders are not paid up front, they never are in any industry, it's always paid after delivery usually with a 30-90 days delay (and even more in some cases).

    There is nothing spectacularly weird or out of place in the announcement they've made, it's basically standard procedure.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah, the issue is that it drove up the price to justify price-gouging even though it's likely these won't actually get purchased. They shouldn't reserve nearly all of their product for pending transactions. They should fulfill actual demand before theoretical ones. This is clearly only possible because of the industry consolidation into essentially a monopoly. If they still had real competitors, they'd have to actually sell for a fair price and they'd be concerned that they likely won't get paid for these "reservations".

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    I didn't realize HDDs are taking a hit now... I'm moving overseas and opted to move my sever with me instead of rebuilding since ram alone is close to 1k now. I didn't price HDDs at the time cause they are only 4 years old... Sure hope they hold on for another few years....

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I scored some new WD 14tb drives for $120 US last October, and I am glad I did! Was a hell of a deal.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    When I first got my Synologies set up (~2024), I got 4x 12TB refurb DC drives for $75 each from goharddrive on eBay. Today, those same drives are $220 each. Absolutely ridiculous.

    So now instead of expanding my space, I just cut back on my usage to make more room, bc it'll be a long time before I can afford an upgrade.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Was going to buy a bunch off serverpartdeals in January/february. Got one for Christmas as a gift at least, but the en the price started going to the moon and I’ve decided the raid array can wait

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  • [–] 76 points 8 months ago* (17 children)

    Ram and HDD prices: 📈

    Me: 😭

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    I had purchased first 12TB drive for 4 bay NAS last summer. These are fuckton expensive so couldnt get all 4. I finally saved up and bought 2nd 12TB drive to get to RAID 1 for redundancy. Not even month passed, WD reports no more drives. Shop where I got one reports out of stock. FUCK!

    Fuck AI and fuck big tech. I got my 12tb cloud and will give you 0 money in near future.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Realistically it's worse than that right? Where is your second and third 12tb drive for back ups? Raid is a nice to have but meaningless when it comes to back ups.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Most of my storage is media - movies and series. Immich, Nextcloud and personal files take little less than 300GB. I do backups weekly to NAS storage, monthly to storage SSD in my PC and to an external HDD. I am looking into way to somehow be able to backup to a rpi3 that I have installed at my father's place. This might cover my 3-2-1 needs, just need to figure out that 1.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Yeah. I have a RAIDz2 on super old version of FreeNAS. 8x4TB.

    I’ve been needing to upgrade for about a year now. I’ve been waiting for the prices to go lower…. News about WD forced my hand for 8x18TB. Not $$ I was looking to spend, but fomo that my upgrade could now be much further away pushed me to just do it. :(

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    You can still go with unraid and buy more, smaller drives. Buy used SAS drives and an HBA. I recently bought a refurbished Dell optiplex with 32 gigs of ram and some i5 processor off eBay for 100€. SAS drives are really loud and consume more energy than consumer HDDs, but they last very long and are way cheaper.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    I had two 20TB drives in my cart three months ago for $350 each. Today they’re $420

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Drives have always been more expensive where I live due to taxes and extra "pirate taxes" they stick on anything you can store data on. But now they are even worse, so sad. $589 for 16TB Toshiba N300 was the cheapest "new" ones I could find at a glance.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I needed up buying these $420 20TB Ironwolf Pro drives from Microcenter, so see if you can order online from there.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sadly the import taxes from the states would almost double it. I think I can find somewhat cheaper drives in Germany if I looked hard though.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    I run on dual Xeon R410s with 128Gb of RAM (2013?). Got them for free, on Kijiji. Runs Proxmox on both and a pile of VMs. Dual GB nics, 6 SAS bays, HBA in IT mode for ZFS. Has iLo for OOB management, or whatever the Dell equivalent is.

    I mean, it's not fast, but each server has 24 cores and I can chunk PDF files fairly quickly for RAG on 10 cores and have plenty for mail server, Nextcloud, K8S running some side hustle apps, etc, etc. Kind of a noisy prick when it winds up though.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago

    Mhm, waiting for ai bubble to burst so I can upgrade my current rig to something future proof

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  • [–] 63 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    I run, my own:

    • Mbin server
    • Matrix server
    • Nextcloud server
    • GitLab server and Gitea server
    • Speedtest server
    • PlantUML server
    • Wekan server
    • BCH Explorer
    • Grafana
    • Mumble server
    • Dozens of websites
    • Proxmox instance that hosted its all, at home
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    Jellyfin and Immich jave stayed as mainstays after like 2 dozen projects I've tried on. That and a Samba share.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    How was setting up immich? Looking to expand and that seems interesting.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Give it a go, I just finished the docker with tailscale setup. Using parts of this guide from Alex from tailscale https://youtu.be/guHoZ68N3XM (for the ones saying don't post yt links, I've not seen an add in the past 6 years or so, just use revanced) 2 hickups I had to overcome: a dns issue and different gpu passthrough then jellyfin uses). Reason was unpriviliged lxc in proxmox in both cases. But I prefer an lxc in this case. Just lost 2hrs looking back at old photos, it works great! Rdy for introducing it to my non tech wife!

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Beginner here. What do you mean by a Samba share? Do you mean a shared network folder? Or something more elaborate?

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    I do believe, you may in fact, perhaps, be a nerd.

    You don't happen to have a simple how-to or wiki for these services do you?

    Official documentation is all well and good but sometimes it can be a nightmare to follow and understand (Nextcloud for example had me pulling my hair) for us mere nerdlings that haven't achieved full nerdhood yet.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    We need to, but can we?

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Wouldn’t this topic be more appropriate in other communities? Preaching to the choir here.

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  • [–] [B] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    NAS Network-Attached Storage
    RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
    SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
    ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

    5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 12 acronyms.

    [Thread #100 for this comm, first seen 17th Feb 2026, 19:51] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Could you also have a row for english?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)
    • NAS: A weird spinny thing where you store your data. Both over the network.
    • RAID: Multiple weird spinny things working together to recover the lost data if one of the weird spinny things dies.
    • SSD: A weird spinny thing that doesn't spin. Currently prohibitively expensive, so can be ignored.
    • SMB: A language that computers use to share files from the weird spinny things or printers with each other.
    • ZFS: A method that your computer uses to keep track of how and where your files are on the weird spinny things.
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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Are they more spinny than they are weird? Or weirder than they are spinny?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The SSDs are definitely weirder than they are spinny but otherwise it depends. A 7200RPM weird spinny thing is for example more spinny than a 5400RPM but if you take 3 of the 5400RPM in a RAID, then the spinnines is aggregated, making it more spinny than a 7200RPM. But in doing so, you are multiplying the weirdiness, making it exponentially more weird than a single 7200RPM weird spinny thing. This has to do with how the weirdiness particles flow between the spinny things to make sure that you'll always be able to recover the weirdiness of one of the spinny things from the other spinny things in case of an untimely demise.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Time to repurpose all of my random mixed capacity HDDs in a bag somewhere, I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Need should*

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I've got 200TB of HDDs all with 80,000+ hours on them :(

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