Approaching the point where I need a new phone. Curious what would be better. A fairphone 6 with calyx or /e/ os. Or a new pixel with graphene. I've heard graphene is the best but the fairphone is very tempting
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As an FP4 owner, what is the point of getting an upgrade? I don't use my smartphone beyond calls and texts and a Lemmy app and listening to music.
What can you do on a new phone that you can't do on an old phone?
Honest question, I'm not being facetious.
I think Fairphone would say that they want you to keep using the FP4 forever, replacing individual parts as they fail. Their goal is the reduce waste in the smartphone industry, that's why they make it so easy to maintain your device. Maybe eventually the main processor on your FP4 will be too slow to keep up with even those light apps. At that point, you come back to Fairphone and buy whatever the latest one is.
And as Sunshine said, continually releasing new generations of phones keeps them enticing to the vast majority of smartphone consumers that don't already use a Fairphone. I'm literally looking at this new one and considering if that will be my next smartphone when my Pixel 7's battery starts to turn. Seems like a pretty good deal to me, tbh. Might finally rip me from Google's grasp.
FP4 will be too slow to keep up with even those light apps
That's true however android is not very well optimized for older hardware. It would be cool to see fairphone become large enough that they can order better deals with cpu manufacturers in bulk to have more powerful chips while largely contributing to an efficient linux mobile distro.
When considering new customers or those who, for example, have irreparably damaged their Fairphone, it's important to recognize that selling a three-year-old device as new may not be appealing to them. Additionally, many people today rely on their phones as their primary computer and therefore require the performance necessary to handle a variety of tasks.
It's great for people running at the end of their phone's lifespan such as those with pixel 5as and iphone 8s.
I am not dissing the phone, if I was in the market it would be a no-brainer, I am just interested in what a new phone could give me and when should I plan to switch.
Perhaps at the end of software support, that’s how I do my upgrades.
I just replaced the battery in my pixel 7 and I’m asking myself the same. I use my phone for fewer tasks than you. Calls and messages only.
Nobody should feel a strong need to upgrade after only two generations. Same deal with most tech like GPUs and CPUs.
I use my phone a lot and my Pixel 7 is fine. The primary factors driving my last couple upgrades were battery degradation and software support. Neither should be a big problem with a Fairphone.
I'm also trying to decide whether to stick with the Pixel/GrapheneOS ecosystem or go for Fairphone.
How hard/expensive was it to replace your battery? I looked on iFixIt and it seemed a lot harder than my orevious phones.
I'm glad there will be a us release :)
Can you lock the bootloader on Fairphone?
One of the reasons given as to why GrapheneOS is not available for the Fairphone is because the end user cannot lock the bootloader.
I might be confusing things, but I'm running calyx on a fair phone 4. Pretty sure that I locked the bootloader after install
TIL.
Heard for years that it wasn't possible. Would love to hear that I'm wrong. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/relock-bootloader-step-by-step/98339/10
How long until Fairphone and Framework merge?
I am very interested in Fairphone, when my current phone inevitably breaks it’ll definitely be my on my short list. Also considering the pine phone pro.
It’s really cool to see the phone space opening back up with meaningfully differentiated options. Like foldables are starting to have a good selection, red magic has one with a fan for active cooling, and we’ve got phones with repairability and maintenance in mind.
I’m also curious to see if RISC-V processors start making any serious inroads in to phones. I know Qualcomm was talking about it a while ago, and there is some amount of support for android on it.
There is legitimately interesting things going on again, and it’s so annoying to have all the oxygen sucked out of the room by the current hype cycle.
The biggest issue that I read was that these phones weren't getting security updates fast enough.
If they could figure that portion out and sell them to more countries, I would love to have a phone like this.
Now, if only they were officially in the US market, I would absolutely buy one the next time I need a new device. There's two big problems. Firstly, I can't guarantee that it's going to work with T-Mobile US, which is my carrier. And second, if I needed a spare screen or battery replacement or whatever, I'd have to get it shipped from Europe, which is a pain in the ass.
You can officially buy them in the US through Murena: https://murena.com/america/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-6/
Doesn't change the carrier compatibility problem. Until they either make a device specific to NA, or make their existing one more global in its frequencies supported, I don't see it selling very much over this side of the pond - and that's rather unfortunate.
That murena site has a bullet that specifically says compatible with TMobile and looks to have the required band support for 4G and 5G.
Too bad I'm on Visible (Verizon-owned MVNO). Thanks, nonetheless.
Start selling them where you're making them!
Headphone jack would have been trivial to add.
"not disposable" but they want you to but their disposable wireless earphones as there is no headphone jack in this phone.
Although, it's not high end.
I'd argue that mid-tier specs are good enough for almost everyone.
In the past when phones improved significantly with every generation this would've been more of a problem for longevity IMO.
Yeah people are still used to phones evolving rapidliy. However in the last 8 years nothing much changed with phones any more.
I hate to be that guy, but if FairPhone aims to reduce waste, be modular and repairable, why are there 6 models of them? Are they inter-compatible? What hardware (other than 5G antenna) changed since the first/second one? Even if it did, could it have been replaced (upgraded) on the original model?
Not necessarily a dig at the manufacturers, but I wish collectively we would stop chasing more features / CPU / RAM, stuck with something for a decade, and made existing software more efficient instead.
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