Search results are useless, AI is poisoning Wikipédia. While I do have the patience to read primary sources in my field of study, it becomes a nightmare to repeat this process for every bit of information I want.

I'm almost signing up for Encyclopedia Britannica. I don't know what else to do.

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[–] 16 points 8 months ago

You don't really.

Skepticism is a practiced skill, rather than just "being skeptical", you can learn how to assess credibility of a source, and develop a habit of doing so.

I quite like skeptics guide to the universe podcast. Although I admit I usually skip chunks of each episode.

Another avenue is researching about cognitive biases. We all do it.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    AI is poisoning Wikipédia.

    Huh?

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Yeah I don't get that. Wikipedia is a fine source.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Wikipedia has an army of human writers that probably don't take too kindly to AI.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It's actually about 15 people that mostly maintain it.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    Wikipédia is fighting an ongoing and ever increasing issue of collaborators pushing AI text into articles, which contain false information.

    EDIT: Why the downvotes? Your misinformation is not my fault:

    1 in 20 new Wikipédia pages contain AI-generated text: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2454256-one-in-20-new-wikipedia-pages-seem-to-be-written-with-the-help-of-ai/

    Wikipédia attempts to maintain a task force to clean the articles poisoned by AI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_containing_suspected_AI-generated_texts

    AI translations are poisoning non-EN Wikipédia: https://wistkey.medium.com/ai-translations-are-poisoning-wikipedia-and-putting-minority-languages-at-risk-c4539984734c

    AI "contributions" are bringing up recycled information and fake sources, and the human verification often fails: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-ai-generated-content-in-wikipedia-a-tale-of-caution

    But sure, keep downvoting me and ignoring the issue, geniuses.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    And there's corporations pushing agendas into primary sources. And there's lying liars who lie for lying's sake.

    If you're going to draw the line at "unassailable truth" then you're doing all the work yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you’re going to draw the line at “unassailable truth” then you’re doing all the work yourself.

    and since that's virtually impossible, then perhaps one simply shouldn't trust any news at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Or anything ever. The present is just a fiction made up to explain the current chemical state of your mind.

    Or we could be reasonable. I guess that's a second option.

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    [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I just follow you around and read what you throw out.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Nothing is a panacea against slop, but for general search, I've become a huge fan of Kagi. Gave up Google years ago, went to DDG, but Kagi is a cut above. There is a subscription fee, however. (Not shilling - no association with them, just a happy user).

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Use the Google flag of "before:2022" added to any search. This will limit returned results to only those captured before 2022, which is when AI slop feedback started. Obviously this doesn't work for current events, but if the data you're looking for doesn't need to be recent it can be useful.

    Example:

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    [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    The uncomfortable truth is that we lived through a very unique golden age of veracity. The photograph and later video completely revolutionized and changed the whole idea of what knowledge and verification were. Prior to indisputable photographic evidence, word and reputation carried more weight as often they were the strongest evidence towards the truth. AI has kind of us returned us to that stage, weirdly making the period of veracity we considered permanent instead a comparative blip in human history.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    What kind of information are you looking for?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    I don't know if it's a location as much as a mindset for me.

    I look for fallacies and falsehoods and should they arise at rates that would be hard to chalk up as honest error, I stop trusting the source.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    For news: the Bylines network in the UK. They have a source checker for every article.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Similar to the top comment, I learned leftist political theory (mindset in their case). Once you understand what capitalism and socialism truly are, you have almost like a shield to protect you from certain propaganda. This sounds arrogant, but its genuinely been my experience

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    most news are from propaganda sources, look for how its being worded in the title.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Books aren't an answer to this question if you need quick information you couldn't have predicted you'd need, and therefore do not own a book about.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I just feel books are the ultimate source of knowledge. Been collecting them forever. Also books are free at the library and they have computers to search for things.

    I also have offline Wikipedia from a few years ago, and an offline Reddit from a few years ago before it was poisoned with AI and bots.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Books are amazing, but i wouldn't agree they are a source of reliable information. Yes some books have reliable information, but just because its a book doesn't mean it can't have misinformation or even disinformation. Books were the original source of conspiracy theories and beyond that they can't be updated with new information.

    That being said books are amazing. With a good library and a good librarian you can learn anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    When I hear news and I'm unsure of the validity of it, I Google and under the news section, if there are multiple articles from various different sources talking about it, I figure it's true

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    RSS ( multiple sources for current events) , Wikipedia, and forums.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a user of Brave Search and I get reliable information with every search. I wonder what kind of information you're even looking for though. And Wikipedia is still pretty reliable for me.... Maybe try Brave Search instead of Google?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    I didn't even know Brave had a search engine, is it any good? I use duckduckgo and it's okay.

    edit - you said it's good. I wonder what others think/how it compares to DDG and the big evil one.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Personally, I have tried many search engines (Google, Startpage, DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, Bing, Mojeek, Presearch etc.). And so far, it's the best one I have used. And on top of that, it's not Big Tech and it literally has an independent index which means it doesn't rely on Google or Bing for it results. So I personally highly suggest it. It also has an AI overview (powered by their own AI) like Google but pretty useful unlike Google. If you don't like it, you can disable it though.

    And it also has its own AI called "Ask Brave", which is totally up to your choices if you wanna use it or not. I'm just letting you know.

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