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[+] 107 points 9 months ago (48 children)
  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago* (21 children)

    Only catch is, one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads and the other gets a standing ovation in the US Capital.

    Like, you can't talk to me about influence peddling and not talk about J-Street. Let me know when Washington DC has an R-Street and we can talk about their relative influence.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads

    Allegedly. Its not clear to me Trump sees either of these people as opponents. Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals, and vice versus. They might not be coordinating but the outcomes might as well be.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

    Where do you get this stuff?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Sergey Belyakov, Mikhail Fridman, Ivan Glasenberg, Oleg Deripaska, Semion Mogalevich, Dmytro Firtash, & Sergey Naryshkin (allegedly)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    This is definitely a List Of Guys. But you might want to do some more research. Mikhail Fridman is Ukrainian who has dedicated enormous sums of his own personal fortune to propping up the Ukrainian defense budget. Of course, it's an easy mistake to make. The EU courts had to take him off the sanctions list in 2024 when they found no evidence whatsoever to support claims that he had violated post-war sanctions.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Was this Epstein consulting Chomsky on methods of improving his public optics and embarking on a PR campaign?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    By putting a mediocre level of effort into paying attention into world events and world politics, and then analyzing those events.

    Its miraculous what putting in even a basic level of effort does. I highly recommend.

    Here's a visual example that shows how Israel thinks of itself, displaying what I'm talking about (another lemming posted this earlier in the thread, cant for the life of me remember whom):

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    Here’s a visual example

    Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

    :-/

    Oh no! What could this mean?!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

    That Putin doesn't like being so short. Or you know, he's really unhappy with not being able to manipulate Obama. Probably short as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    Reading this, it's very easy to understand how Trump won.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, I wasn't impressed with Obama, but I did vote against Trump every time. The reason that Trump won is because Americans are terrible at spotting propaganda, are racist, worship the rich, can't tell the difference between tv and reality, and what an instant gratification economy and Trump promised that. They would rather go along with the lie they want to heard rather than the truth they don't want to hear.

    Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends. That also includes Israel and the billionaire class. A lot of money got pumped into marketing Trump. Putin's been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems and he was just a way to launder money, but when Trump was slighted by a Black man and decided to run for office, Putin saw an opportunity to divide America. When Trump won, he saw an opportunity to take Ukraine.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends.

    Trump's never been shy about putting himself up for sale. That's the reason Hillary backed him for the GOP primary in '15. She thought he'd be easy to manipulate, then push aside when she was done with him.

    Possible that Putin made the same mistake, only to discover the EU could outbid him. Either way, Trump's family has grown fat playing Western Capitalists against Eastern Nationalists.

    Putin’s been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems

    Trump's been working the US bankruptcy courts to his favor since the 1970s. And Trump's been trafficking sex workers out of the Eastern Block for his friends in Manhattan since the 1980s.

    At every step, liberals turned a blind eye or helped him out.

    Until they reaped what they'd sown.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The elites turned a blind eye. The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully. But Putin was still a part of this and it's obvious how he benefited. I don't know why you're singling out "liberals".

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The elites turned a blind eye.

    They were enthusiastic accomplices.

    The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully.

    So they prosecuted the most broke and vulnerable, instead.

    Putin was still a part of this

    As a scapegoat, a boogeyman, and a useful idiot who could justify another generation of Western military industrial economic looting.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Bruh we're literally sending billions annually to Israel so they can then turn it around and bribe our politicians to get more.

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  • [+] [S] -20 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Looks like you drank the entire bucket of us propaganda. Liberals that see Russia everywhere is to distract you from the failures of their political party. The politicians that screamed Russia the loudest are the ones that had taken the largest amounts of money from AIPAC. Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

    I think something the Epstein files are showing us is that they're the same threat.

    Fascists globally, are the threat, regardless of the government they've commandeered.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Oh, so McCheetoh has no connections to Russia? And Russia clearly has not directly benefited from his actions?

    Don't get me wrong, AIPAC can burn in the deepest layers of hell; but pretending Russia is harmless is just beyond the pale.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    A few 100 memes on Facebook didn't have any impact on elections. Russia didn't fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don't support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.

    Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT'S what decides elections, not how many are 'red' vs 'blue' (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).

    Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don't do anything is just not true. Like at all.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we're going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don't agree with.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Lol

    A Republican will tell you they're going to lower your taxes, then raise them; that they're going to reduce government size to save you money, but it's actually to make corruption easier and cost you more.

    We could go on. We have no heroes in government, but fuck's sake, man, one party are openly fascist.

    But whatever. Go play on Truth* Social.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Accusing others of falling for propaganda while denying that trump is a russian assett is very funny.

    That's like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

    You mean like what Democrats have done the last few years?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. That's what i meant. I thought that was pretty clear.

    Your denial that trump is a russian asset is a willful denial of reality on par with americans who deny that israel's genocide is a genocide.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Inside the US, there's a pretty substantial amount of pro-Russia propaganda. For years the NRA was a dominant force in politics and it was completely compromised by Russia. The current US president is a Russian asset. Etc etc.

    Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections

    I'm not sure about "by far", but it doesn't really matter. Two things can be true at the same time. Israel and Russia are both significant threats to the US, both have obtained substantial control over US politicians, and both are threats to their neighbors.

    And also there's overlap because Israel and Russia are partially aligned. (See for example how reluctant Israel has been to offer any support to Ukraine.)

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    Russia isn't "harmless" if we're having a conversation about capitalist incentives and imperialist interest and how they result in global conflicts were the working class suffer the consequences.

    But if you hear mainstream media start to cry "but Russia" you should see that as a HUGE red flag.

    There is no comparing "Russian Influence" to the extension of US imperialism that is the Israeli colonial project. That's ridiculous.

    I think the only silly thing we do is pretend that Israel is "controlling America". No, Israel does the the absolute worst things in the interest of American Imperialism; that even the American oligarchs want to distance themselves from.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Let us know of the Russian PACs able to funnel millions into election campaigns

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  • [+] 21 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    NATO and the USA have lost the Hybrid War launched by Russia in March 2013.

    The CIA has unlimited budget, that installed nazis in Georgia (instigated separatist movement within weeks) 2008 and Ukraine (smartly avoided immediate Russian liberation of Donbas seperatism to delay with peace talks) 2014. The hybrid war accusation against Russia is projection for the high intensity propaganda (hybrid war) on the west to support Russophobia.

    Western divisiveness is mostly a function of western wackos. Be angry at the wackos without making you try to hate Russia instead of the wackos.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Zionism is a fundamentalist ideology that Israel is following. Zionism is not a religion it is an evil political fundamentalist ideology that claims supremacy of a particular race. Zionism justifies extermination, oppression, exploitation and apartheid of those people who do not ethnically align with their supremisist ideology to fulfill their imperial ambitions. As long as the United States keeps giving them a blank check at the expense of the American people this will only get worse as this cancer spreads. Nazism is similar to Zionism as it is a supremisist ideology that justifies imperialist expansion of the chosen “race” and the systematic extermination and dehumanization of a “race”of people deemed less than.

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    [–] 24 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] [S] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    It can be both, but Israel is the greater threat. Because nearly all politicians are either openly taking up AIPAC money or they're doing the work for AIPAC for free. And Democrats by and large, take more contributions from AIPAC, From the last election cycle. Seven out of the top 10 were contributions to Democrats

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    From the last election cycle. Seven out of the top 10 were contributions to Democrats

    I believe the DNC was paid by Zionist "donor pressure" to lose to the candidate who wanted "Israel to finish the job" more passionately than a democrat who would say polite things against genocide.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    But the thing about this is Trump may have said Israel to finish the job, but Biden and Harris had already finished it for him. The picture was literally taken Biden's last day in office. Biden proudly proclaimed he was a Zionist throughout his political career.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    This image is not enough to show how terrible genocide joe was. We have data about the level of destruction.

    • 70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
    • 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged
    • 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
    • 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
    • Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
    • 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    They both seem like real problems though don't they? Also the links between Russia and Israel are pretty strong...

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  • [+] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It wasn't for Democrats interfering in Russian elections in 1996 Putin wouldn't be in power right now to be their boogeyman.

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  • [+] 23 points 9 months ago (23 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Account age 11mo?

    (Tbf .world has a bunch of those instances de-fed’ed.)

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (15 children)

    Urban dictionary says it means authoritarian communist.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

    I'm pretty sure I've heard/seen it but never took the time to figure out what it meant.

    Yeah that explanation makes sense.

    Authoritarian communism, is , from my perspective, not genuine communism.

    Isn't a core principle of communism (as the term itself implies) a communal society. Which would be where each citizen has more control over legislation and government actions. ?

    No single leader would be needed. And would always cause a failure of the system.

    A rotation of elected counselors would be optimal.

    Authoritarianism only leads to fascism. Doesn't matter what the intention is behind implementation. It will inevitably lead to fascism.

    Many Democratic presidents who gave themselves more power, paved the way for the position we are in right now.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Authoritarian communism, is , from my perspective, not genuine communism.

    Isn’t a core principle of communism (as the term itself implies) a communal society.

    "Communism" is a moneyless, classless, stateless society. But while communists see this as an end goal, many don't believe it's possible to go directly to that. Colloquially, the term "communism" is sometimes used to describe a society in which communists hold power, even if it has not reached that ideal, i.e. "Communist China," although the more acurate term for that is "Actually Existing Socialism" or AES.

    Frederick Engles argues for the necessity of authority in "On Authority:"

    All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?

    If we're at the point of saying that Marx and Engles weren't "genuine" communists, maybe it would be better to just chose another word for what you're describing, because most self-described communists around the world are Marxist-Leninists, or "tankies."

    No single leader would be needed. And would always cause a failure of the system.

    A rotation of elected counselors would be optimal.

    Both the US and China (as examples) already have "a rotation of elected counselors," do they not? Both have a congress of elected representatives which represent the highest legal authority. Or do the president/general secretary count as "a single leader?"

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I don't know about China but the U.S does not have term limits for Congress. So. No. It does not have a rotation.

    And because of Citizens United, and Israel, "elected officials by the people" might be a subjective interpretation of our current politicians.

    Term limits = limit corruption. That's something that's a big problem with our justices as well.

    Also , most leftist, who support communism, consider communism to still involve money being exchanged.

    I don't think Marx advocated for no money to exist or be exchanged.

    We can't do trade and barter for everything.

    It sounds like your interpretation of communism is a hippie commune or co-ops. Not really the same thing.

    Hippie communes can only work at a small scale. Same for co-ops.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    I don’t think Marx advocated for no money to exist or be exchanged.

    It sounds like your interpretation of communism is a hippie commune or co-ops. Not really the same thing.

    Again, Engles:

    Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.

    This is, of course, the distant ideal and not what Marx and Engles advocated for doing immediately. This is why it's important to understand the distinction between the ideal of communism and what communists advocate for in the present material conditions.

    And because of Citizens United, and Israel, “elected officials by the people” might be a subjective interpretation of our current politicians.

    And this is precisely why some form of authority has to exist in order to stop the bourgeoisie and reactionaries from influencing the political system. Even if you got rid of Citizens United and made bribery illegal again, the rich would still exert influence on politics through the press and through their control of the means of production. Citizens United is a symptom of that problem, not the cause. There's a broader reason why Citizens United became a thing in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    This is, of course, the distant ideal and not what Marx and Engles advocated for doing immediately. This is why it's important to understand the distinction between the ideal of communism and what communists advocate for in the present material conditions.

    How can you assume this is what they ment?

    I'm pretty sure if that's what they ment, they would have said so.

    They said a lot of things. Never that.

    Communism is an extended form of socialism.

    You are talking about something else entirely n Communism does not advocate for the loss of personal finances. Communism isn't what the u.s government and school systems has told you it is.

    It's not giving up all your wealth and work to "the state" so it can be evenly distributed.

    That's ridiculous.

    It's about making the system more fair and equitable. Billionaires wouldn't exist. And top hierarchy class wouldn't exist that controls everything.

    No one could be in control of the media or elections if no one was allowed to exploit others and amass such large amounts of money.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    How can you assume this is what they ment?

    What do you mean? How can I assume that when Engles wrote "money will become superfluous" he meant "money will become superfluous?" Or how can I assume that he's talking about a distant ideal rather than an immediate course of action? For the latter, it's literally in the same piece of theory that I linked:

    Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. The main measures, emerging as the necessary result of existing relations, are the following:

    (vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers.

    That's the short term, immediate measure he's advocating for, in contrast to the long term idea of "money will become superfluous."

    You are talking about something else entirely n Communism does not advocate for the loss of personal finances.

    I never said anything like that.

    Communism isn’t what the u.s government and school systems has told you it is.

    Lol? I'm literally citing theory. Where on earth did you get the idea that I'm relying on "what the US government and school systems told me it is?" Of course it isn't that. I'm going off of actual communist theory.

    It’s not giving up all your wealth and work to “the state” so it can be evenly distributed.

    I never said anything like that.

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    Pretty sure they didn't mean there wouldn't be any money.

    That's just not feasible.

    They probably meant being wealthy would be superfluous.

    Amassing a bunch of money wouldn't get you anything extra.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Look you can argue this point as much as you like but you're wrong. I'm citing actual theory and you're going off what "feels right" to you. What you personally believe is "feasible" or "not feasible" is completely irrelevant.

    If you won't believe one of the authors of the Communist Manifesto, then maybe you'll believe Wikipedia, which says in the first line:

    In Marxist thought, a communist society or the communist system is the type of society and economic system postulated to emerge from technological advances in the productive forces, representing the ultimate goal of the political ideology of communism. A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access[1][2] to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless,[3][4][5][6] implying the end of the exploitation of labour.[7][8]


    As I've explained to you several times, this is the end goal, an ideal to work towards, and not a policy to be implemented right away. Let me try to explain this to you.

    Right now, you need money for everything. You need it for rent, you need it for food, you need it for transportation, for entertainment, for luxuries, etc. This makes people very dependent on the capitalist system, on wage labor, it makes it so that you have no choice but to sell your labor to survive. People will put up with a lot to keep their jobs because they're afraid they'll end up on the street otherwise. Some people will even put up with things like sexual harassment at work, or they'll stay in an unhealthy relationship so they have a place to stay, or sell drugs, whatever. Ain't no rest for the wicked.

    Now, imagine that the state implements a free housing program. Now that you're no longer dependent on money to avoid being homeless, you are no longer as desperate for it. Of course, there's still plenty of stuff you can buy with it, but you have a safety net, and with that safety net, the balance of power at your job has shifted - if you get on your bosses bad side, you'll be faced with a meager living situation but not a desperate one. Because money is no longer used to buy housing, it has become a little bit less critical to your life.

    Now, imagine that, one by one, over time, more and more things are moved out of the financial sphere and distributed based on need or fairness. With each step, money becomes a little more "superfluous." You don't need it for food or rent, you don't need it to get to work, you don't need it to pay for internet, etc. It becomes something that's used only for luxuries, collectables, imported goods, that sort of thing. Nobody goes around seizing everybody's money, it just becomes more and more limited in its applications.

    Eventually, is it really so impossible to imagine a world where money is so limited that it doesn't really matter anymore? Where it has become "superfluous" and is eventually eliminated altogether? Obviously, such a transformation could not happen overnight. But we can certainly take steps to move in that direction, like the housing program I suggested. And taking steps in the direction of that vision is what Marx and Engles advocated for. Objectively. Indisputably. Even if you personally can't imagine it, others have.


    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm wrong, then I have to ask where your ideas about what communism is come from, because they certainly don't come from reading theory. And I don't mind explaining things to people, but I do mind when people try to assert that I'm wrong about something without knowing basic facts about what we're talking about.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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    Aren't you describing anarchy ?

    My understanding is communism still supports laws and regulations.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    "Authoritarian communists" believe a state is needed to build communism, and as aspects of people's lives are made better with a socialist state, the influence and impact of the state will wither away as the systems of community direction become more robust and helpful.

    Anarchists believe the state is a fundamentally broken tool, and that it will only seek to maintain power, rather than wither away.

    Both believe in the end goal of a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Authoritarian means strong enforcement and control over others.

    Citizens.

    That's the literal definition. I think you are mixed up about definitions.

    Authoritarian:

    --favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    It’s absolutely both.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Both are and both should be dealt with

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    It is an absolute winning electoral strategy to invalidate the treasonous candidacy of any demonic zionazi warmongering genocidal subhuman piece of shit, with amplification that the more money they raise the more invalid their candidacy.

    Platform shouldn't be wealth taxes, it should be the financial zeroing out of any candidate and financers of zionist supremacist rule over America.

    We're all that wrestler with sunglasses movie from the 80s. The lizard people having constitutional protections to rule over us is the moral question of that movie.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Look into any political person you're thinking about voting for. Call them out for taking this money and primary them

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    The person who raises more money wins 95% of the time in USA, and this post is about AIPAC dumps millions into US elections. Though that seem to be changing. Unless Israelis get smarter and realize that in order to win an election, you have to point out that you're raising less money than your opponent, you have to bathmouth both AIPAC and Israel.

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