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[+] 107 points 9 months ago (48 children)
  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago* (21 children)

    Only catch is, one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads and the other gets a standing ovation in the US Capital.

    Like, you can't talk to me about influence peddling and not talk about J-Street. Let me know when Washington DC has an R-Street and we can talk about their relative influence.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads

    Allegedly. Its not clear to me Trump sees either of these people as opponents. Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals, and vice versus. They might not be coordinating but the outcomes might as well be.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

    Where do you get this stuff?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Sergey Belyakov, Mikhail Fridman, Ivan Glasenberg, Oleg Deripaska, Semion Mogalevich, Dmytro Firtash, & Sergey Naryshkin (allegedly)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    This is definitely a List Of Guys. But you might want to do some more research. Mikhail Fridman is Ukrainian who has dedicated enormous sums of his own personal fortune to propping up the Ukrainian defense budget. Of course, it's an easy mistake to make. The EU courts had to take him off the sanctions list in 2024 when they found no evidence whatsoever to support claims that he had violated post-war sanctions.

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    Was this Epstein consulting Chomsky on methods of improving his public optics and embarking on a PR campaign?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    By putting a mediocre level of effort into paying attention into world events and world politics, and then analyzing those events.

    Its miraculous what putting in even a basic level of effort does. I highly recommend.

    Here's a visual example that shows how Israel thinks of itself, displaying what I'm talking about (another lemming posted this earlier in the thread, cant for the life of me remember whom):

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    Here’s a visual example

    Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

    :-/

    Oh no! What could this mean?!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

    That Putin doesn't like being so short. Or you know, he's really unhappy with not being able to manipulate Obama. Probably short as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    Reading this, it's very easy to understand how Trump won.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, I wasn't impressed with Obama, but I did vote against Trump every time. The reason that Trump won is because Americans are terrible at spotting propaganda, are racist, worship the rich, can't tell the difference between tv and reality, and what an instant gratification economy and Trump promised that. They would rather go along with the lie they want to heard rather than the truth they don't want to hear.

    Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends. That also includes Israel and the billionaire class. A lot of money got pumped into marketing Trump. Putin's been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems and he was just a way to launder money, but when Trump was slighted by a Black man and decided to run for office, Putin saw an opportunity to divide America. When Trump won, he saw an opportunity to take Ukraine.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends.

    Trump's never been shy about putting himself up for sale. That's the reason Hillary backed him for the GOP primary in '15. She thought he'd be easy to manipulate, then push aside when she was done with him.

    Possible that Putin made the same mistake, only to discover the EU could outbid him. Either way, Trump's family has grown fat playing Western Capitalists against Eastern Nationalists.

    Putin’s been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems

    Trump's been working the US bankruptcy courts to his favor since the 1970s. And Trump's been trafficking sex workers out of the Eastern Block for his friends in Manhattan since the 1980s.

    At every step, liberals turned a blind eye or helped him out.

    Until they reaped what they'd sown.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The elites turned a blind eye. The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully. But Putin was still a part of this and it's obvious how he benefited. I don't know why you're singling out "liberals".

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The elites turned a blind eye.

    They were enthusiastic accomplices.

    The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully.

    So they prosecuted the most broke and vulnerable, instead.

    Putin was still a part of this

    As a scapegoat, a boogeyman, and a useful idiot who could justify another generation of Western military industrial economic looting.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Bruh we're literally sending billions annually to Israel so they can then turn it around and bribe our politicians to get more.

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  • [+] 24 points 9 months ago (16 children)
  • [+] [S] -20 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Looks like you drank the entire bucket of us propaganda. Liberals that see Russia everywhere is to distract you from the failures of their political party. The politicians that screamed Russia the loudest are the ones that had taken the largest amounts of money from AIPAC. Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

    I think something the Epstein files are showing us is that they're the same threat.

    Fascists globally, are the threat, regardless of the government they've commandeered.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Oh, so McCheetoh has no connections to Russia? And Russia clearly has not directly benefited from his actions?

    Don't get me wrong, AIPAC can burn in the deepest layers of hell; but pretending Russia is harmless is just beyond the pale.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    A few 100 memes on Facebook didn't have any impact on elections. Russia didn't fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don't support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.

    Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT'S what decides elections, not how many are 'red' vs 'blue' (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).

    Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don't do anything is just not true. Like at all.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we're going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don't agree with.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Lol

    A Republican will tell you they're going to lower your taxes, then raise them; that they're going to reduce government size to save you money, but it's actually to make corruption easier and cost you more.

    We could go on. We have no heroes in government, but fuck's sake, man, one party are openly fascist.

    But whatever. Go play on Truth* Social.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Accusing others of falling for propaganda while denying that trump is a russian assett is very funny.

    That's like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

    You mean like what Democrats have done the last few years?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. That's what i meant. I thought that was pretty clear.

    Your denial that trump is a russian asset is a willful denial of reality on par with americans who deny that israel's genocide is a genocide.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Inside the US, there's a pretty substantial amount of pro-Russia propaganda. For years the NRA was a dominant force in politics and it was completely compromised by Russia. The current US president is a Russian asset. Etc etc.

    Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections

    I'm not sure about "by far", but it doesn't really matter. Two things can be true at the same time. Israel and Russia are both significant threats to the US, both have obtained substantial control over US politicians, and both are threats to their neighbors.

    And also there's overlap because Israel and Russia are partially aligned. (See for example how reluctant Israel has been to offer any support to Ukraine.)

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    Russia isn't "harmless" if we're having a conversation about capitalist incentives and imperialist interest and how they result in global conflicts were the working class suffer the consequences.

    But if you hear mainstream media start to cry "but Russia" you should see that as a HUGE red flag.

    There is no comparing "Russian Influence" to the extension of US imperialism that is the Israeli colonial project. That's ridiculous.

    I think the only silly thing we do is pretend that Israel is "controlling America". No, Israel does the the absolute worst things in the interest of American Imperialism; that even the American oligarchs want to distance themselves from.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Let us know of the Russian PACs able to funnel millions into election campaigns

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  • [+] 21 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    NATO and the USA have lost the Hybrid War launched by Russia in March 2013.

    The CIA has unlimited budget, that installed nazis in Georgia (instigated separatist movement within weeks) 2008 and Ukraine (smartly avoided immediate Russian liberation of Donbas seperatism to delay with peace talks) 2014. The hybrid war accusation against Russia is projection for the high intensity propaganda (hybrid war) on the west to support Russophobia.

    Western divisiveness is mostly a function of western wackos. Be angry at the wackos without making you try to hate Russia instead of the wackos.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)