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Wi-Fi 7 routers promise game-changing speed, lower latency, and more stable connections. All thanks to features like Multi-Link Operation (MLO). But do these routers actually deliver on everything their marketing promises? We tested the MLO capabilities of 25 routers to see if the hype is justified, or if it’s all just marketing.

Article so you can swerve the video: https://dongknows.com/wi-fi-7-mlo-multi-link-operation-explained/

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[–] 37 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

Wi-Fi 7 Marketing is Lying About it's Biggest Feature

Truth in advertising is pretty much nonexistent these days. Assume they're lying until proven otherwise.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Video description:

    Wi-Fi 7 routers promise game-changing speed, lower latency, and more stable connections. All thanks to features like Multi-Link Operation (MLO). But do these routers actually deliver on everything their marketing promises? We tested the MLO capabilities of 25 routers to see if the hype is justified, or if it’s all just marketing.

    Article so you can swerve the video: https://dongknows.com/wi-fi-7-mlo-multi-link-operation-explained/

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Biggest issue with this stuff as almost always is that the average consumer finds this too complicated.

    The fact you have to have everything a modern and up to date wifi 7 setup, including all your devices, and make the right decisions over topology pushes it out of reach of anybody but an enthusiast or someone paying for a top tier install.

    Excluding people who cannot lay cable between their mesh points because they renting, a wired back haul is always going to be more reliable and consistent. Plus the average consumer gear loses one or more radios to do the back haul.

    Biggest thing wifi 7 offers is better coexistence between multiple heavy users on the same access point, assuming everything is wifi 7.

    The speed increases are irrelevant to 99% of the population as I can still max out a 1gb synchronous internet link on wifi 6. My current back haul is 2.5gb, if and when I go wifi 7 I am looking at going to 10gb otherwise what's the point? How many enthusiast level aps come with 10gb back haul?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Why do you feel you need 10Gbit? I only just upgraded mine to 2.5gbit when I went WiFi 7 and doubt I will even have one endpoint doing that any time in the near future, considering it will max out the wifi router even at that speed. I don't expect multiple at the same time for many many years.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Future proofing, at some point I will go 2.5gb sync or higher on my Internet pipe, the connection I think can go 10gb sync with some upgrades to the local exchange.

    Also because I can, and almost everything else I own for my back haul already has 10gb ports and the bandwidth to support it including my router and all my switches.

    Do I need it? Absolutely not, its just fun to do and the only reason I haven't done so yet is cost of suitable hardware.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I tend to wait until I could at least hypothetically use it because you pay a big premium to "future proof". 10Gbit is still too pricey for me to roll out.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Its not that bad if you go with mikrotik, but their configuration isn't for everyone as its a long way from say Asus in terms of simplicity.

    Their budget 8x10gb is about £220, pretty reasonable for a fully managed switch. Sure its not going to let you max out all 8 ports at the same time with multiple vlans even with the hardware offload, but whose expecting that from a budget switch?

    I am never really going to benefit from it fully, not least in the short to medium term. What I will get is the fun from upgrading.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    I upgraded because my local system's storage is all(mostly) server-side. Having 10Gb vs 1Gb(or 2.5Gb) is noticeable when loading things like games or image/language model weights. I've been considering getting the hardware to bond 2 connections, but I don't imagine that I'd see much noticeable performance improvement (but the benchmarks would look pretty!)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    That makes sense. I have a NAS but I use it more for backups

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Just throw up an NFS export and use fs-cache: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/filesystems/caching/fscache.html

    It works pretty well, the only annoyance is if your NAS isn't on it is pretty annoying but that rarely happens (unless a failed upgrade nukes both your graphics firmware and the package manager at the same time and you have your server's USB ports disabled for security reasons so fixing the problem requires disassembling your server cabinet, server case and extract the hard drive to which you need to grab hard copies of recovery from a safety deposit box... in which case, chin up... it happens to all of us. x.x;)

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Eh, Wifi 4 is still good enough.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I stayed on decades old Apple wifi routers until my big upgrade to Wifi 7. I will be here for quite a while.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like a majority of tech has been in this rut for a while. CPUs, GPUs, audio, wifi, 4g VS 5g, screens/tvs, etc. all seem to provide the most incremental upgrades each iteration. For a while phones seemed to be making leaps and bounds, but feel relatively the same generation to generation now.

    I think the main area I feel like I've seen some movement is battery tech. Some new materials and better/longer batteries are making some movement, but tech hardware feels relatively static the past decade or so.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I mean at least batteries is one of the main areas where improvements will make big improvements. Even when GPU's double in power, I can barely see the difference in graphics. For my computers, the only thing that seems to matter any more is how much RAM and disk I have free.. Batteries are something I never have quote enough of, OTOH.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Damn, you got some harsh comments for just posting a YT link.

    Thanks for posting. We need to grow the fediverse, and low-effort stuff like this helps too.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Thank you for appreciating my minimal effort attempt to increase the amount of content on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Yeah wtf, I watched the video earlier elsewhere but I knew it was a good source (also dong knows tech) but the comments here have been the worst I’ve seen on this site… “Sounds like ai so I clicked off” god forbid you speak eloquently…

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Its likely as its marked as discussion. I haven’t really explored all the post types myself but as fedi grows dropping them in the right format will likely ease this.

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    I feel like we need bot /rss option one from content that just imports in. It usually tends to have a link/vid and no context of why its there. Its not wrong of it to be there but it can get frustrating scrolling past this stuff. I am not saying it saying it should be there for artificial engagement either...so this could allow me to filter by format.

    I also miss video and creative content (i have dumped insta) i am not sure this is the place for it, but i appreciate it, however I do hate the manufactured youtube crap. I agree AI voice and Youtube Voice are an instant irritant to me. Vids have to feel and genuine and beneficial not just another wannabee...these people used to go into car sales.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Do you have all those categories for posts? Or is that just a suggestion ?

    I use voyager, so I only have media,link,text as options. I must admit, as much as I love the fediverse, it can be a bit confusing sometimes .

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    The screenshot shows what i can choose from when creating a post, I just use piefed via browser. I just assumed it was what everyone sees.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    That's exactly what I mean. Just like email, different providers/servers can do things a little differently. I suppose that's just a side effect of being decentralized.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I clicked, it sounded like an AI generated voice. I turned it off

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There's a guy in the video who looks pretty real to me, but who knows, fakes are getting pretty good.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

    tbh, I didn't get that far. It could be legit. It just didn't sound legit, and I didn't see a person in the first little bit I watched, so I turned it off before giving it much of a go. When combined with the clickbait headline, I just felt like I wasn't going to get much out of it

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago*

    I can summarize it for you. No wifi 7 routers support true wifi 7 multi link operation. Some support band switching but also in a limited way. Some are better or worse implemented than others.

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