Copyright infringement is not theft, and it is not immoral. It has never been, and it will not start to be, just because a company we don't like is doing it.

I can't wait for this stupid fucking bubble to pop.

Protecting fair use is more important than any hate-boner toward chatbots.

You wouldn't download a car

I think the question of fair use is separate from the question of piracy, and probably separate from the question of intellectual property in general. Even if we were to protect fair use, that doesn't make it legal to wholesale copy books. Individual piracy from people who can't really afford it is one thing and largely harmless, even a net good. I know people who only started reading books from particular authors because they pirated one copy and bought others. That's very different from a company downloading entire libraries of books without paying. Shifting the question from piracy to fair use is just another way of making you think of the wrong question.

I'd like to live in a world that doesn't gatekeep property. But we live in a world where artists aren't paid for their work directly, and in that world intellectual property is necessary.

Why dont he just provide his own teachings

Start an ai class room so ai companies can pay indians to make videos on subjects for them

You're just not thinking about all of the car companies that would benefit from having so many more cars to sell!

This guy has the kind of face that made me completely unsurprised when the allegations from his sister came out

OpenAI has already lost the AI race.

Not true. If you could just take any car you wanted for a drive there would no need for car thieves.

My cocaine business just doesn't scale right with all these "laws" inhibiting my growth.

Same energy as a person I know who was complaining that their business can't afford to expand if they have to offer healthcare plans to their employees.

I hope that's the face he makes when his head falls in a wicker basket one of these days.

So what they doing is basically piracy.

And not just them, any AI in that so called “race” is allegedly doing it.

So why do we get punished if we download something from the Internet?

Just listen to your own words dude. Your so close.

I bet this fucker will beg for a ruling that his business model is illegal so that he has something to blame other than his own incompetent bullshit.

I don't get how they're allowed to do this in the first place.

People are using LLM's instead of visiting websites, reading books, or watching videos. And lots of people are PAYING AI companies for this.

It's such a clear case of copyright infringement, and it's leading to countless losses for creators.

10 out of 10 pedofile oligarchs agree

Hey we need your private data to train our AIs on.

Ok, but I need your private data too.

Hell no...

Car theft laws merely protect the established players in the industry. If it was legal everybody and their uncle would be doing it, diluting the margins.

Why should I care if it's no longer Open?

The entire spirit of Neoliberal Capitalism is that Regulations and Enforcement of Regulations are bad for business and shouldn't be done.

This guys' take is pretty much just a continuation of the takes of lots of publicly celebrated CEOs of the last 4 decades.

Ok. Any Joe with a GPU can train an AI. So I guess copyright is dead. You see my Unraid with 64TB of copyrighted material. All for AI training I'm doing.

They just need to train it like humans. Make it a robot and send it out in the world, send it to school. They won't because that's too slow and the robot will get its ass kicked by the bully robots or be shot by the school shooter robots. Maybe AI is not AI because it can't learn on its own it has to be spoon fed info.

It's race over with him the winner. Open source can't afford that data. Google, OpenAI and Anthropic would be the only ones able to train a "legal" model. Chinese models would get banned the day after.

I can’t see his face anymore

Next thing those AI-companies are gonna do is to bribe the government into forcing regular companies to make their intranets accessible. Because those intranets are part of the deep web, and the deep web is much larger than the regular web. So a lot more training data is in them.

Must be sampling error. Car thieves aren't that agreeable. Has to be closer to 9/10. Even 1/10 dentists don't agree that using toothpaste is important.

IOW we’ve already stolen everything we think is of value and want to pull up the ladder on any competitors.

Don't hate AI because copyright is being violated. Copyright was just invented and expanded to protect corporate profits. It has never and will never be something to protect artists.

They will do the same here. Copyright will be changed to favor corporate profits. The only thing that will happen is that Disney and other big media corporations want a piece of the pie. No law favouring copyright protection with AI will EVER be for artists benefits.

This is just corporate infighting. They'll definitely say that it's to "protect artists". It's not. Copyright never has been about protecting artists.

I'm confused Lemmy... Is it okay to pirate content or is it not okay?

Honestly everyone and their mother sucks with this.

Corporation who violate copyright suck.

People who violate copyright suck.

Everyone sucks with copyright and are like Republicans and abortions who think their violations are the only morally acceptable violations.

Good.

Piracy is theft again.