I have waited years and years and years to get a VR set, just waiting for valve to make their new set and just as they fucking announce it billionaire pieces of shit looking to get rich getting people fired with their AI bullshit destroy the computer electronics market... Scumbags...
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The page was broken for me, here's a direct link to Valve's post.
I had started to assume this was the case.
With all the layoffs in tech, I'm just hoping the Frame releases while I can justify it.
Too bad they couldn't share pricing for the controller
I think most of us understand that the parts market (RAM and SSD at least but also GPU) is so volatile that, for a machine they don’t expect great numbers on and they aren’t selling as a loss leader (like game consoles are), they can’t name a price because they don’t know. Committing to one price now almost certainly means a “price rise” at launch or selling at a loss, neither of which they want.
Personally I’m expecting $999. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m a little off, by $200 — in either direction. This will not be “affordable,” but they’re expecting their fans to come out and support them.
You can say $1000 instead of $999.
No reason to do our abusers' dirty work for them.
Clever idea would be to give to option to sell it without RAM and SSD (as option, you can still buy the whole package).
They need an open platform to soar, who cares if RAM and SSD comes from second hand market? Steam is a store, they could even lead the second hand market for the (key) accessory components!
Ooh, I'd assumed the RAM would be soldered/integrated with the SOC, but looking at the FAQ you're completely right! That would be a neat option...
I feel like that goes against their whole message with Steam hardware though. The Steam Machine is advertised as a plug-and-play console alternative that needs zero effort on the user's part, if they sell versions of it without components it would quickly start gaining notoriety for being for tinkerer's and linux nerds instead of the average person.
As a cheaper option? Maybe. But that's means the SteamBox certified might not be true (8 gigs of ram instead of original 16).
Also, while it might have reparability I'm mind, the fact it has to be opened in the first day requires more design effort
That's not going to appeal to the console market they are targeting.
Valve is going to try and sell you an $850 6 year old outdated console so you stop blowing Microsoft and start blowing Valve 🤣
My 10 years old computer is already giving me signs of failure. If in the next months it dies, do you really think I'm gonna find 16gb ram at decent prices? Or a recent graphic cards under 200€? I'll have to add one new motherboard too because mine being old means it won't support much of what I'll have to install.
As of today, if I want to keep the budget of my pc under a reasonable price, I'll have to settle with something that probably won't be able to output the last battlefield at 4k120fps.
But you know what? That's fine, because I'm confident enough with the size of my dick not to need a computer that lets me brag about dumb numbers.
You don't have to update all the parts at the same time. Sure, if your motherboard/cpu/ram fails you'll likely need to replace all 3, but your current graphics card, PSU, case, etc should still be fine.
Plus, if you're going from a 10 year old rig you could buy used DDR4 era parts on EBay or Facebook to save money and it'd still be an upgrade
I said it will be a shitty value, not that it didn't produce big numbers.
I figured the SSD was easily accessible but being able to upgrade the RAM was a welcome surprise.
This is so sad. I can't put into words bis much I hate ai. It's making everything worse in my life. Art, politics, news, talking to friends about their chatgpt enlightenments and now gaming too. I was so looking forward to the frame. :(
I wonder how far they're willing to push the "its just a PC" rhetoric - they might consider releasing a chassis only enthusiast version without RAM and SSD etc. Similar to how Framework has their DIY edition and configurator.
I'm wondering if Gaben could buy a semiconductor foundry and start producing RAM.
Thats a software vendors wet dream - owning the store where people buy your software all the way down to owning the fabs that produce hardware required to play those games.
I really want a Frame but I want it more for the software. If I could flash the garbage off my Quest 3 and use whatever Valve cooked up I am confident it would be vastly better. The hardware is decent. The operating system is garbage and they keep reducing its functionality every update. A good 70% of what I do with it runs FOSS shit I found on github and dev blogs because something as simple as putting an overlay on top of a fully 3D game is something the geniuses at Meta can't figure out how to do.
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