Sadly, that’s exactly where bike lanes were installed in 2017 after a years-long community process, only to be removed following complaints from drivers used to zooming along the street.

It’s impossible to know whether this tragedy could have been prevented if the bike lanes were still there. But their removal will almost certainly mean Los Angeles will be liable for her death.

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[–] 52 points 9 months ago (7 children)

My eye was caught by the wording of "and her unborn baby," which is often used by anti-abortion people to describe a fetus, in order to push their agenda.

Having read the article: The cyclist was 7 months pregnant, and declared DOA when the ambulance arrived at the hospital.

The baby must have been delivered by a post-mortem emergency C-section, because she died in the NICU a couple days later.

So she was a newborn premature baby when she died, but not when the car (and arguably the dangerous infrastructure) killed her mother.

I'll allow it.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    My first thought was: "Dang, I wonder what that one night in the NICU is going to ultimately cost the survivors."

    Feels like the most American thing ever to lose one's family to dangerous infrastructure and careless driving and then also be bankrupted by the funeral and medical expenses overnight.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder; generally speaking, a newborn is covered by their mother's insurance for the first 30 days. But with mom dead... I would think they still are, and this is sadly something that happens often enough there's a standard policy on it.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's impossible to know whether this tragedy could have been prevented if the bike lanes were still there.

    It is possible to extrapolate though. While it looks like the bike lanes were only paint, they did provide a wider space to ride in since they replaced a driving lane. Of course this was all undone when drivers got upset. I hope those people are found and interviewed now that these deaths have occurred.

    What makes this worse is that she was riding with her whole family, and they had to witness it.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly painted no bike lanes are worse than no bike lanes, you get less license to use the pavement and 90% of cars disregard them entierly so you get to play life or death mario kart.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I can't disagree. The only painted lanes I've ridden in that felt safe were between the parking row and the curb. Even then, safety is contextual as now the main concern is getting door'ed.

    If only we had some red shells to ride around with.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    That's maybe what I hate most about this country.

    Freedom is equated with convenience, and absolutely nothing is allowed to come between a person and their convenience, or it is felt as a breach of their liberty, even if it is a significant public good. (Hence why we saw so much fighting during COVID.)

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    It seems to me - as an overseas observer - that the balance of power between grown-ups and adult-aged-toddlers is unhealthily shifted towards the toddlers.

    I mean it's pretty bad in plenty of other places, but the usa seems to have it extreme and widespread. At least based on what things like this internet forum reports.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    It's convenient to live in a walkbake city. People oppose that all the time.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Most people who drive would not agree with you.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    IN A WALKABLE CITY

    Please read all the words

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    But is the bike lobby willing to support my political career to the car lobbies extent? If not why should i care? /s

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Somebody is gonna use this to claim ebikes are unsafe and thus every bike should have a license and registration attached along with a massive yearly fee (yes I know somebody who unironically said this because she refuses to admit cars could ever be the problem)

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    A known to be a poorly designed intersection. Bike lanes that were removed years earlier over driver complaints. And an 87 year old driver, not under the influence of anything (except fucking time).

    Just straight plowed through the victim from behind, because how else would it have gone with the fucking road design all throughout this wasteland?

    There's so many goddamn layers that shouldn't have congealed into this goddamn system, responsible for this pointless death.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    [principal skinner meme] "no, it's the ebikes that are dangerous!"

    also, why point out that its an ebike? Totally irrelevant.... ahe could have been on rollerblades and it would be the same outcome

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    also, why point out that its an ebike? Totally irrelevant… ahe could have been on rollerblades and it would be the same outcome

    Being on a bike (e- or otherwise) makes the fact that the street used to have appropriate infrastructure for bikes but no longer does, relevant. Meanwhile, a rollerblader would've just been on the sidewalk to begin with.


    As far as I'm concerned, every member of "Keep L.A. Moving" (the organization that pushed for removal of the bike lanes) has blood on their hands.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    These e-bikes are out of control, we must ban them /s

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Important correction: If it's unborn, it's definitionally not a baby. It's (at most) a fetus.

    Inb4 "why is this important": Referring to pregnancies as "unborn babies" is part of the systemic oppression of women.

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