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[–] 151 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Both. Both are good.

Daylight for the work rooms and things like home-office or homework desks, warm light for cozy couch corners and bedrooms.

Or go full high-tech and install lights with adjustable color temperature.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Or go full high-tech and install lights with adjustable color temperature.

    I may be ahead of the curve a bit. Adjustable colour temp didn't seem enough. My whole apartment has RGB bulbs since about 5-6 years ago. I just couldn't go back to on/off one shade lights ugh.

    Also I rock a 300w LED panel to get a bit more brightness in my winter days, but that's not RGB though.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Most strips are RGB. The one you are looking for is RGBWW. Full RGB and Warm & White. But they are expensive ><

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    I mean yeah they are RGBWW if you put it like that but wouldn't RGB already include different temps of white? So all of my bulbs are Hue, and yes, they were somewhat of an investment even though my apt is not that huge. Like 300e total years ago though, for uhmm the basic 250e colour set, 5 e27 bulbs hub and remote, and then later I also bought two e14s.

    But the LED panel I have is actually a 300w growlight. I couldn't put it on full I'd burn my eyes. But it serves very well as light therapy on the mildest setting. It's not got any adjustments except a dimmer though.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve been rocking my same hue lights for 8 years. I love having blue and red in the same light fixture. Creates a nice night purple with funny shadows.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yeah I've had mine for roughly the same time. It's kinda annyoing being anywhere without smart lighting. You have to shut off lights before going to bed, instead of shutting them off after you've climbed under the covers.

    And having to put on the lights just to go have a piss in the middle of the night? That would wake me up too much. So I just put on a few red low lights to roughly see where things are without waking myself up.

    Then again anyone super into privacy wouldn't probably love these, as as far as I know, having several WiFi using bulbs on the ceiling also means that anyone with access to the data could actually function as movement sensors. So the metadata Hue has about me (or at least could access if they wanted to) would tell them when I'm in bed or in the kitchen or having guests or whatnot. Apparently it's based on the attenuation of the signal strength and based on those numbers you can "see" the object moving from the signal strength changes.

    Oh apparently to use it myself I'd need a Hue Pro Bridge, but they came up with the system on the old one. Now the pro version has an analyser in it so makes it work better.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    wouldn't RGB already include different temps of white?

    Well yes, but actually no. You can produce white-looking light with just RGB, but the quality is going to be shit. Sunlight is made up of the whole spectrum of visible wavelengths, while an RGB will only produce a much sparser spectrum with strong peaks at green, red and blue, and not much else. Looking directly into the light you might not be able to tell, but once the light bounces off colored objects things start looking weird compared to natural light. That's what rgbww lights are fixing by adding wider-spectrum white LEDs into the mix. For white lights, there is a number called the Color Rendering Index (CRI) that tells you how closely a light's output spectrum resembles natural sunlight. CRI 100 is perfect sunlight, less than CRI 80 is already pretty crappy looking light.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    We have a "sunshine" script in Home Assistant that sets all bulbs to daylight and 100%. Great for livening up overcast days.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Take a look at the Adaptive Lighting integration if you haven't already. You can set the colour/temp/brightness of your bulbs for daytime and nighttime, per zone if you want, and it will nicely fade over a set period around dawn and dusk.

    Also, the first time I wrote that last sentence it got autocorrected to "around dawn and dick".

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Personally I just go for warm white for places which should be cozy and cold white for places with a more utilitarian use.

    Cold white LED light bulbs are actually more efficient, so I'll even get more light out of the same power lamp making it easier to see what I'm doing (which is what you generally need lights for in an utilitarian use location).

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Dear god no, you never want mixed light, it's like walking into an alien space ship or from the Arctic to the Sahara desert just by going to a different room.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Wow, didn't think about it this way...

    But for me: Hell, yeah! Added bonus!

    Signals the primeval parts of your brain:
    "Here you have to fight to survive the horrors of the pleistocean ice shield!"

    Or, after changing the room:
    "This is your dimly fire-lid cave, here you are save to relax!"

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I installed Wiz, they can do RGB, but the real trick is to program double tap.

    click on, warm white 70%

    click on, off, on Daylight 100%

    Bonus: Home assistant, throw a rave

    R G B R B R G B G.....

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    It's curious seeing people equate warm lighting with old people and old homes. Maybe it's just my region but everybody (especially boomers) switched to CFLs when those came out and then to the cheapest, nastiest cool LEDs with cornea-melting levels of blue light after that. Sometimes I feel like the only sane person when I'm walking around and seeing the insides of houses lit up the same color as you'd get from a $5 flashlight 15 years ago.

    I have 4000k in the kitchen and bathroom and 2700K or 3000K everywhere else. After reading this thread I'm considering finding some high CRI adjustables because I also find the 4000k lights pretty harsh at night.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    the only smart house thing I envy is temperature adjustable lights automaticly adjusting the temperature according to the time of day

    some thing like that could bring the best of both worlds easily, I find higher temperatures more pleasing at day but like you they are too harsh for me at night

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    I have a couple lifx bulbs and my partner brought like 8 cheapo Chinese ones with her when we moved in together. It is quite nice. The LIFX bulbs give much higher quality light and better color, but the ability to schedule lights out and wake up to artificial sunrise is incredibly nice regardless. As cool as that is I would not recommend WiFi bulbs to anyone for the following reasons:

    1. They are horribly insecure. I have them walled off in their own little VLAN but it still makes me paranoid. I'm no hacker but they have Internet access and radios, so I'm sure there's a server in Shenzhen that knows our comings and goings, when we have guests over, etc. They also have my IP address and all of my neighbors' SSIDs so they know exactly where I live.
    2. They are a pain in the ass to set up. You have to power cycle the bulb five times, then wait for it to enter a pairing mode, then you have to wait for the stupid app to find the bulb,which doesn't always work. After that, you have to select your wifi network from the list, which again it might not always actually detect, even if it's a 2.4GHz network (because almost none of them support 5GHz). Then you have to type in your wifi password. Repeat this entire process for every. Single. Bulb. You'd think the process for the LIFX bulbs would be more streamlined because they're six times the price, but you'd be wrong. In theory they're Homekit enabled, which is cool if you have an iPhone unless you lost the barcode they put in the box. Or unless you have an older model. And again, sometimes they'll just refuse to work. I have a Color Mini that just stopped being smart one day. It's a really expensive normal bulb now.
    3. If you put too many of them on the router your ISP gave you there's a good chance you'll start overwhelming it and your performance will degrade. More than like 15 devices total (including the bulbs, smart speakers, TVs, gaming consoles, phones, laptops, etc) and a bottom range router is going to start begging for death.

    I'm keeping them because the lady likes them and at present, everything works so long as I don't touch anything. I'd like to try using zigbee bulbs because they solve a lot of the problems I have with WiFi bulbs but replacing the system I have would be expensive, even after liquidating the old ones on eBay.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    They remind me of the old style fluorescent circle lights from the 50s, where they were almost green.

    More than even color temperature I'm shocked at the number of people who illuminate their rooms with four clear-glass bulbs in the ceiling fan, so bright you can't even look at them from the sidewalk. Have these people never heard of a lamp? You can practically see the shadows of dust motes in the air against the sterile white walls.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Just heard about a phenomenon where people paint their houses white right before selling them (I assume apartments too) and then the new people won't paint on fairly new paint so they end up keeping the bland colors.

    Some people probably depend on their lightbulbs to make the walls look yellow instead of white, I can see those cases comparing the light to a hospital.

    I personally like cooler lighting, but there's too much color around to feel like a hospital in my case.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Modern led bulbs can do both and then with home assistant you can script it so the color temperature changes through the day as the sun changes.

    In the morning my house is cool light around 6500k and over the day it warms up to about 3k

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You don't even need to script it. Just use the Adaptive Lighting custom integration. You can sync your light color temperature with the sun, or customize it any way you like.

    https://github.com/basnijholt/adaptive-lighting

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I came here to see if anyone mentioned Home Assistant + Adaptive Lighting. Every single lightbulb in my house is at least a colour temperature bulb and most of them are controlled by Adaptive Lighting. It's hard to explain just how well it works and how nice it is to have a nook or hallway be ceiling lit and daylight-bright during the day, then warm and cozy by lamplight in the evening.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's hard to explain just how well it works and how nice it is to have a nook or hallway be ceiling lit and daylight-bright during the day, then warm and cozy by lamplight in the evening.

    Completely agree. I only run it in the living room as it's north facing and can feel a bit dark.

    Besides the light bulbs being coloured, are they a special kind? I tried to find high CRI lighting and ended up replacing the led strips in a cheap LED panel with Auxmer led strips.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I tend to find that white tone bulbs work better than RGB for getting room lighting right, though you can get RGBWW bulbs which do well at both. Honestly I'm not attached to any specific brand but I've had consistently good experiences with IKEA Tradfri and Lidl Silvercrest bulbs, which both work with Zigbee.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    They also make bulbs that automatically change as you dim them since a smart bulb may not be practical or even possible everywhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Incandescent did this without software.

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    I use red bulb (or just leds now) unironically, I can see good enough to walk at night and they don't fucking hurt my eyes like dumbass white bulbs. Seriously how do people use those white bulbs? Just going to a hospital is painful.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago*

    This is why I don’t use them.

    The paint in my living room looks diarrhea brown and corpse gray under warm light. It’s purple and blue, and there are a lot of windows so I can’t plan for warm light as a default like I can in bedrooms. Daylight bulbs keep the color what it should be.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

    As a side note, one of the reasons why cold white LED light bulbs are a thing is because they're a bit more efficient than warmer light colors.

    The reason is because they all just have 2 kinds of light emiting diode (LED) junctions inside - red and blue - plus a phosphorus layer on top that smooths those two perfect lightwave color peaks in the wavelength domain into a broader light spectrum, and the blue is more efficient than the red, so lamps with a higher proportion of blue emitters to red emitters - and which hence emit more light towards the blue end of the spectrum (i.e. a colder white) - will emit more light for the same power consuption than those with more red emitters and hence whose light is more towards the red side of the spectrum (i.e. a warmer white).

    EDIT: So it turns out part of this which I learned 10 years ago is outdated. The efficiency thing is true but when I went looking for how phosphors (the layer between the LED emitters and the outside, which absorbs the single wavelength light from the LEDs and emits light with different wavelengths) prompted by the points made by another poster, from places like this it turns out that red LED emitters aren't at all used anymore, only UV and blue (whose light the phosphor then converts into light with different spectrum distributions depending on the material of the phosphor). If you search for it a number of recent scientific papers pop up around various such materials.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    It seemed odd the lower frequency diodes would be less efficient so I did a quick bit of reading and it seems like red light is efficient, but red and blue light aren't as effectively picked up by the human eye as green and because each light has a different operating voltage there are some consequences.

    From what I read the things that makes white lights more effiecient is they only use blue diodes which probably means less circuitry is needed to operate than two sets of alternating diodes and there's less difficulties going from higher frequency (aka higher energy) to low via filters. Hence efficient green light, blue light and red light at a single voltage.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (9 children)

    From what I read last time I properly looked into this (so, almost a decade ago when I was considering setting up a business importing LED lamps), the blue light emitting diode junction simply uses less power to emit the same amount of light.

    Electrically speaking it's no bigger or lesser a problem in terms of circuitry to have just blue diodes or blue + red diodes in there since they're bundled in blocks of diodes in series (and then multiple blocks are in parallel) and the only thing that differs between those two kinds of junctions from a circuit point of view is the drop voltage of one kind of diode being different from that of the other (diode junctions done with different dopants have different drop voltages), something you take into account in the design stage when deciding how many LED diodes you use per block or what DC voltage will your 110v/220V AC input be converted to to feed those LED strings.

    More specifically for LED light bulbs, the messy stuff in terms of electronics is the circuitry that converts the 220v/110v AC input into a lower voltage DC suitable for the LEDs whilst limiting the current (as diodes' only ability to "limit" current is them burning out from overheating due to too much current), not the actual LEDs.

    But I'll put it even simpler: if the problem was indeed simplicity as you believe, then LED bulbs with only red LEDs would also be very common as they're simpler than blue+red ones.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    You can't easily use a filter to turn red light into blue. Imo if you needed to light a room for a camera or something not the human eye, red seems like it would be effective for that, but given the filter situation and the eye being best at detecting green light it doesn't make sense to use red as the base color for indoor bulbs.

    From what I read, red LEDs were most efficient at 1.8v and blue more near 4v. Maybe its trivial to do second voltage line but the filter situation is probably the limiting factor here.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    Here are the LED drop voltages for reference.

    LEDs aren't just more efficient at those voltages, those are literally the difference in voltage between one side of the LED and the other side when in operation - if you feed it less than that the LED will simply not work. (Note that these drop voltages are not actually an absolute value but rather a very steep curve relative to current, but for simplification we can treat those as absolute ON/OFF voltage values).

    Also the phosphor doesn't filter light - rather it absorbs light and re-emits it in different wavelengths, the process being such that the emitted light covers a range of wavelengths even if the input light has a single wavelength as is the case for LEDs - so it's not at all light manipulation by filtering and mixing light sources.

    That said I went looking at how phosphor is used in LEDs nowadays and judging from this they don't use red LEDs emitters at all nowadays, only blue and UV ones, and then chose a phosphor (which can be any substance, not just Phosphorous) whose emission range is towards the desired light range.

    I've corrected my original post.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    The phosphorous coating here is serving to reduce the amount of blue light as an absorptive filter. Its just also doing other stuff. Idk if there's a proper term for what its doing in whole, but your explanation is otherwise in line with what I've read.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    That's not even close to reality.

    Read the material linked or just google it yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (4 children)

    your explanation is otherwise in line with what I’ve read.

    That’s not even close to reality

    That's a bit incoherent.

    Fwiw, I did read the article you linked. That's one of the articles I looked at originally.

    I'm just saying its innapropriate to say its "not a filter" because the coating is doing more than partially filtering a wavelength of light; Its a categorical error.

    The coating's primary engineering function is not a filter, so maybe its frustrating to hear it described as one but it is absolutely incorrect to say its not a filter because one of things its literally doing is filtering out a % of the blue light emitted by the diode.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    A phospor absorbs the incoming light and then uses it as power for its own emission process, in a processes called "fluorescence" rather than "filtering". It's a very efficient process because almost all of the light coming in and absorbed by the fluorescent material ends up used to emit light.

    A filter just cuts out (literally "filters out") things other than what it's supposed to let through. Filters just block stuff and thus cannot have on their output anything that's not present on their input. Further, filtering can be very inefficient because everything that the filter doesn't let through just ends up as waste heat.

    Filtering doesn't make any sense for light emitted by a diode junction because that specific light emission process emits light of a single wavelength - it's a totally different process from incandescence and only emits photons whose energy exactly matches a specific quantum gap in that junction, hence all emitted photons have the exact same wavelength, thus there are no other wavelengths in the light emitted by the diode to filter out - thus if you filter out that specific wavelength, no light at all goes through the filter because there's nothing else there.

    Calling a phospor a "filter" is like calling a system with a solar panel connected to a green LED a "filter" - sure, the spectrum of the light coming in is not the same as that of the light going out, but that's pretty much the only way the thing behaves the same as a filter - it does not share any of the other characteristics of a filter.

    Anybody with a Physics or Engineering background will react the same as me when somebody describes a fluorescent material in front of a light source as "a filter" because per the scientific and engineering definitions "fluorescence" is not at all the same as "filtering".

    Whatever source you learned information about LED lights from, it's really bad and shows no domain expertise, which is probably why you ended up with some things right in your explanations and others horribly wrong. If I was to guess, I would say that you "learned" it from AI, as getting the general stuff mostly right and the domain expertise details incredibly wrong is a common problem of AI.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I was looking at exactly the same pages you were. Try reading those articles (or use ctrl+f) if you want to know where the filter discription is from.

    You don't need to concoct a fictional story about where the information came from. Its clear your purpose here isn't to inform anyone at this point. If you've ever talked to an engineer prior to this you would not have this opinion of my colleages.

    And the analogy here is so bad. If the solar panel were partially transparent and part of system (the resulting spectra) was dependent on that transparency it would work.

    Engineers say its "acting as a filter" because thats a way of analyzing the system. For all and intents and purposes anything can effectively be modeled as a filter in certain design situations has been called a filter. So yes, engineers do talk like this.

    Source: used to work in an electronics hardware development lab with electrical, optical, and software engineers.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Mate, I have a Masters in Electronics Engineering and a partial degree in Physics.

    I just didn't want to pull the authoritativeness card out, so instead tried to explain things to you from basic principles.

    You're either confusing some other application with what I was talking about - which was the emitters used in LED light bulbs, the ones which look yellow when they're switched off, the yellow stuff being the phospor - or you mentally over-generalized something you heard, either to an area were it doesn't apply or missing the required context to make sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    You keep throwing conjectures out there based on somewhat head scratching assumptions. And you're doing it again. I am not an electrical engineer, but I have worked in the industry long enough to know the electronic definition of filter is not the optical definition and often optical engineers do model things as filters for ease. I write engineering reports for a living. I do the english part of the engineering because they're usually pretty bad at it.

    When I said that I am in agreement with everything you said except referring to the phospher as "not a filter" I was fully aware of what the coating was doing. I concurred with that. And you said it was nowhere close to reality. Which is truly incoherent.

    What I'm saying you're muddying things by saying its not a filter. This is the sort of thing the electrical and optical engineers would say during meetings and the project managers would get annoyed because they'd both be talking past each other.

    So like knowing you're an electrical engineer here isn't surprising. Engineers (and especially electrical engineers in my experience, probably the lead exposure) in general are abysmally bad writers, poor communicators and often overstate their disagreements by being unaware of their audience. Its why I'm called in to clean up their messes.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    plus a phosphorus layer on top that smooths those two perfect lightwave color peaks in the wavelength domain into a broader light spectrum

    The phosphor absorbs some of the blue and downconverts it to green and red. Some of the blue is let through for us to see. The mixture of R, G and B looks like white to us (but not necessarily to other animals with different cones in their eyes).

    2 kinds of light emiting diode (LED) junctions inside - red and blue

    I've never seen a red LED die inside a white LED. I've only ever seen blue dies on their own.

    Technically UV-pumped white LEDs exist, but they're rare and I've never seen one. They're less efficient and require a third phosphor (to make the blue).

    You can remove the yellowish looking phosphors on the LED with a small pick to reveal the blue die underneath. Fun fact: some high-power "red" LEDs are actually blue leds + phosphors, not that it's a particularly good choice but it's a thing: https://halestrom.net/darksleep/blog/018_led_cob_cutting/

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I wasn’t expecting to feel so seen at this ungodly hour

    Cold light is so clinical and miserable, and I refuse to have it in my vicinity at night if I can help it.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    I dunno why, but warm lighting at night just makes me feel depressed. I need daylight bulbs across my house. Adjustable brightness preferred though, so I'm not blinding myself at night.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    i put one of these in a ceiling fan and my roommate started referring to it as The Sun

    she's not wrong but i like to be able to easily see the stuff on my desk I'm tinkering with ffs

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    White light is a must for makeup, or any time where you need to see colors accurately. Otherwise give me yellow all the way lol. I love the coziness.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Or, and hear me out. Get one that you can change. On a gloomy day, during the daytime have it at daylight white. In the evening a nice 2700k.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    This was one of the things that got me into Home Assistant. All the bulbs in my house can be controlled and having them transition automatically between daylight white and cozy warm light is kinda magical even after several years.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Am I the only one who doesn’t replace light bulbs based on color temperature? I usually keep around whatever is already in the rental unit/whatever spares the last tenants left around, because I usually move every year anyway.

    In the rare chance I get a choice, I usually choose daylight though.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    Most people I know who do care.

    Change all of the bulbs when they move in. Throw the old bulbs in a box.

    Put the old bulbs back when you move out.

    Use the new bulbs at the next apartment.

    Some of them also have smart bulbs and those are way too expensive to give away.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    I don't go out of my way to replace light bulbs with all these smartbulbs that have day/night cycles.

    That being said, if they go out, I normally pick a smartbulb because the price difference isn't that much for all it offers in return.

    I've been working remotely from 3 to 10 PM and the gradual change in color temperature both from the smartbulb and my screen really helps me take it easy as my shift is ending.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Part of my job is selling lighting.

    The following conversation takes place at least once a day without falter:

    X: I’d like one light like this please (puts some form of light on the table)

    ME: ok (goes through the script to make sure they know what they want/it’s compatible/…yaddayadda).

    X: oh and it needs to be warm in colour.

    ME: 2700k got it.

    X: yes, but like warm right? Because it’s led.

    (Variant: the rando looking for something small for his toilet. β€œOh you know, something like 18000 lumens and 60000k”

    You value your eyes at all?)

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Take them up on their offer of lumen output and show off one of these bad boys.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That's a neat form factor.

    I have something like this mounted in a torchiere floor lamp. high output (something like 15000LM) and a cool color temp (6500K I think). My office has daylight when I turn it on, but it's aimed up, indirect and high enough it's not generally in line of sight. Probably would have used the bulb above if I could find cob lights when I bought this one.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Daylight bulbs are everywhere in Japan and it's so strange. I tried looking for warm light bulbs at a local store and they don't even stock them as an option. I do see them used in some people's houses so I'm sure it's not universal, but the prevalence of daylight/cool bulbs is weird to me, I'm very much warm bulb gang.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Daylight is full-spectrum, not just cool. Flicker-free and high color rendering index. If you can get that in a bulb (bit more expensive than cheap LEDs) it's quite nice indoors.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Daylight spectrum is skewed by time of day from blue shifted to red shifted.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    True, but I just mean that daylight has properties that not all LEDs do, which is why some LEDs may seem harsh even if they are the same color temperature as daylight. But a good LED with high CRI and no flicker is nice at various temps.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    I just want to be able to slaughter a pig if I need to. Gotta do that under cool whites my guy.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    There are ones that are adjustable. I don't have to choose one or the other.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This is the kind of constructive, rational and informed opinion that flies in the very face of the concept of internet forums and everything for which they stand. If you won't rabidly advocate for an extreme position on an insignificant issue with an irrationally vitriolic diatribe, what are you even doing here? This is Lemmy Shitpost. Please observe the appropriate decorum, and comment accordingly. So fuck you and the ISP you rode in on. You can have my daylight bulbs when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Warm white 2700-3000k is fine for bedrooms Soft white 3500k is better for awake spaces that aren't task spaces White/Daylight 5000k+ is for getting things done, I use them in the garage, the basement, and for some of the kitchen lights

    I used to hate integrated LED fixtures, but I put in under-cabinet lighting that can switch color temp so that is nice because I can set it to daylight during meal prep and warm during eating.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Modern society is telling me I need to take melatonin.
    I tell modern society I make my own melatonin, and sleep perfectly fine because my lights are warm in the evening.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    WoHo, mΓ­ster not addicted to your phone who doesn't watch it in bed.

    We can't all be like you.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I'm fully addicted to my phone, but, if I try to watch it in bed.... I'll be laying on it in 20 minutes. Don't know what it is, I hit the bed, I pass the fuck out. pretty sure it could be on fire and i'd just die there.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Gimme 5k temperature light bulbs

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    We don't know Celsius. How do you expect us to know Kelvin?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    I love my daylight bulbs

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    We accidentally installed a white light bulb in the hallway outside my bedroom. It made me feel so pissed off and on edge every time my door was open and someone turned that light on.

    Once we swapped it to a warm bulb I was much more chill.

    I do keep a tunable light bulb in a task lamp, but the rest of the lighting in the house is warm.

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