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The original was posted on /r/pcmasterrace by /u/trander6face on 2024-10-24 11:11:47+00:00.

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[–] 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I would have preferred if they had used the die space for the GPU, not this bullshit.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You can use it for blurring your background on your camera

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I got an Asus Vivobook with a pretty new AMD chipset that has one... running Fedora, no Idea how to make something use it either :/

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Also on an Asus laptop with Fedora, after following some obscure instructions from amd I managed to get a Python script to confirm the npu exists and is technically functional... But apparently to do anything approaching useful, I need the slightly fancier npu. What a waste.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I wonder if they have implemented NPU support into Folding@Home yet.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    There are no plans for it, at least not for a while. Apparently F@H workloads are not suitable for the current NPUs

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    They need hardware that does actual useful work, not hardware accelerated autocorrect.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You can do lots of useful work with processors designed for large matrix calculus, but not a lot of folks want to run physics sims for some reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds like it should do well with some advanced 3D stuff? Or wonky physics games like Goat Simulator or Amazing Frog

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    If there are game devs that want to try making a game out of a fluid sim, I'd be all for it. Realistically, most devs will have to wait for better middleware that adds NPU matrix acceleration to existing game engines.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    You need a model compiled for the architecture. I saw some for the RK35xx devices when shopping for hardware. I do not think there is software made to split up or run models in general on a NPU. The models must be configured for the physical hardware topology. The stuff that runs on most devices is very small, and these either need a ton of custom fine tuning or they are barely capable of simple tasks.

    On the other hand, segmentation models are small, and that makes layers, object identification, and background removal stuff work. Looking at your CPU speed, and available memory, it is unlikely to make much difference. You are also memory constrained for running models, though you could use deepspeed to load from a disk drive too.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The only thing I can think of is AI video game upscalers. Other than that, yeah, it’s a waste of silicon.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    which software exactly (that uses npu instead of gpu)?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I have heard of ollama before, is this the same thing?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    So, what? Is that only trained on ethical data?
    Because i bloody doubt it

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It's not a specific model, its a harness for running models. You can find ethically trained models to run on it though iirc.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    https://github.com/FastFlowLM/FastFlowLM

    That RTX 4050 is probably even faster though.

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