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[–] 211 points 9 months ago* (38 children)

I hate to break it to you but... It's been over 20 years. It's more retro now than the SNES was when the 360 came out.

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  • [–] [S] 133 points 9 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 72 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    This episode is 30 years old.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Shit, that saying is over 20 years old.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You know that 'Cleopatra is temporally further away from the Great Pyramid' thing?

    Grand Theft Auto V's release date is closer to Half Life 2's release date, than to the present.

    Grand Theft Auto 4's release date is closer to the release date of the original Starfox or Street Fighter 2, than it is to the present.

    And you don't even want me to do any date comparison for the following:

    ... Let's do the time warp Againnn!~

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Frankly, the reason this is shocking to people is that games, graphically and mechanically, made leaps and bounds from the SNES to the 360, and gave largely stagnanted from the 360 to now.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    A LOT of people have completely failed to grasp how much technology has stagnated in the last 20 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Yeah, my smart phone with Internet access basically everywhere begs to differ.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Phones didn't changed fundamentally since 2015.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Saying technology hasn't progressed in 10 years is a very different statement than technology hasn't progressed in 20 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Phones, as we know them today, entered market much later than consoles or PCs.

    My point is that eventually we hit the ceiling of progress. PCs and consoles hit their peak 20 years ago while phones did 10 years ago. Things haven't changed in a while for both of them and it doesn't feel so far that there will be major progress any time soon.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    The first smartphones were released in 2007....

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    You don't think there's any difference between today's phones and the 2007 ones? Not in cell coverage either?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Not in terms of navigating a city, which have had universal coverage since the flip phone days.

    Also, just an FYI: GPS has had global coverage since the 1970s and doesn't require a cell signal at all.

    Smart phone advancements have been incremental since they were released, very little had changed in terms of basic functionality. The biggest difference is that you can listen to music while your getting navigated now.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Dude, take the rose tinted goggles off for a second. I had a GPS navigation system for my car early on, around ~2010, maybe a little earlier, that thing was shit. It could hardly figure out where I was in the city. It would very often snap to the wrong road and I'd have to reboot it. Today, it's simple. I just pull out my magical everything device and use an app. Technology has progressed A TON in 20 years.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yes. that is why smartphones replaced integrated navigation about 15 years ago. It's OK that you were a late adopter, but that doesn't change what happened. I was happily using google maps to navigate with my phone on a little holder on the dash and actively making fun of people like you by 2010.

    It was actually kind of funny to have better navigation and a better stereo in my 1993 Ford Ranger with a quarter million miles on it than dumbasses that bought new cars in 2010.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Why are you being so condescending about this and making so many assumptions about me? I wasn't a "late adopter." I was a teenager. I didn't have a smart phone. I didn't have a "new car in 2010" nor a built in navigation system. I was using a standalone TomTom GPS in highschool in a 1996 Honda Accord. That was 20 years ago. Technology is significantly better now.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Perhaps I'm in a minority but when the PS3 and 360 first debuted I did not consider even the NES to be "retro". I would have applied that term to the likes of an Atari 2600 or colecovision.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    The NES and Atari are separated by mere 6 years. The NES and Xbox 360 are separated by nearly 22 years. That's how much the perception of graphical advancement has decelerated. Sure we keep making leaps on graphical fidelity, but ever more in areas that are less and less noticeable every time.

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  • [–] 92 points 9 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    It’s now 2026, so Zelda 20 years ago was:

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Breath of the Wild is almost 10 years old.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    ... and Nintendo still hasn't figured out how to run it at an actually stable 60 fps.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm trying to finally finish trials of the sword on master mode... which is only going to be possible due to hacking my switch, backing up my save, transferring it to PC, and finally converting it to a Wii U save to run in Cemu. Glorious ultrawide at 144fps - I only wish I had left myself more of the game to play on a worthy system

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Except much lower resolution than that.

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    It is over 20 years old......... Fuck.

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  • [–] [S] 27 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    If you had asked me before I looked it up, I probably would've placed the original Xbox at 20 years old. Time is flying by.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

    The one in the picture is an xbox 360 s which is only 15 years old if that helps

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    The picture is an xbox 360 s

    it's an xbox 360 S which is different to a xbox one s, not to be confused with the xbox series s.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Also don’t confuse it with the Xbox 360 E.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    And under no circumstances confuse any other Microsoft products with each other, except under confusing circumstances.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Why the fuck they wouldnt brand with this strategy is beyond me. I came up with this like 16 years ago and stand by it.

    Xbox

    Xbox 360

    Xbox 720

    Xbox 900

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I've heard the reason for the name of XBox 360's successor was that some marketing geniuses heard that most people called it "the three-sixty" for short, and thought "Great! Let's call this the XBox One, and it will be referred to as The One! Like Neo!!"

    And then, everyone collectively agreed on "XBone" 🦴

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    So the Xbox 720 is twice as good as the one before it, but the 900 only gives you a 25% increase? Who'd buy that garbage?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    True. Maybe it should go 2600, 5200, 7800...

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    There's more time between the release of the 360 and (picking a random game that released this week) Pathologic 3, than there is between then and the release of Super Mario Bros on the NES

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The 360 was released in 2005. That's over 20 years ago. Yes, they would be considered classics at this point. And know what, I wish more folks younger than myself discovered how gaming WAS and realize what it's turned into.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    Keep in mind the launch model of the 360 didn't have an HDMI port, most people still had a CRT, and it didn't even come with component cables, there was only a composite lead in the box, you had to pay extra for component cables if you wanted them.

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  • [+] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I thought it was called the 360 because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It was called 360 because they didn't want to release an Xbox 2 when PS already had 3. So they came up with 360 bullshit because it's kind of like 3. So now PS are conveniently numbered and I have no idea which Xbox is the newest.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Dunno if i've been whooshed or if you have a poor understanding of geometry, but have a good day either way.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Well, it's over 20 years old now, so probably. It's also really easy to softmod recently. Last year I got one for $25 at a thrift shop and modded it, so it's also a great time to get one.

    So far, I only played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie on it though, and messed around a bit with the first release of Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Can you get XBL Arcade games running on it? Half the games I'd want to play were on the arcade rather than disc games.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Is the softmod on it persistent between reboots? Last I looked into it you had to run the exploit every time.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Yep, that's still true. However, you can install ABadAvatar onto a USB stick which will run the exploit automatically upon startup. It usually takes about a minute for the exploit to successfully start and occasionally crashes (only happened to me once).

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Wake up, gen z boys and girls. You are not kids anymore. You are old af.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    as an early 90s-born millennial near the upper limit of gen z, it's been great seeing them discover mid 20s aging as I enter my early 30s :) it doesn't stop Gen Z. You keep on aging from here on out. I remember thinking the 70s were only 30 years ago, and the 80s only 20.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Though on the flip side, remember that however old you are right now, it's also the youngest you'll ever be going forward.

    Feeling old in your 20s? Many people are active into their 60s, some keep going strong into their 90s.

    Unless you're recovering from illness or injury, the current version of your body might be the best version you'll ever see again.

    Though one suggestion that left my own body far more capable, if you're the skinny and weak type, do some proper workouts. Proper as in spend the time to learn proper form and also ensure you're getting enough energy and protein in your diet. You'll gain strength that will stay with you until you do get really old (assuming your body doesn't atrophy due to starvation or being bedridden before then).

    Eg, when I first started working out, I couldn't curl 20 lbs, had to go down to 15. But I was curling 20 a week or two later and was pushing 40 lbs about a year or two later, then my workout habit dropped off and 8 years have passed and I can still curl over 30 lbs when I get curious in the dumbbell section of stores that carry them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I used to be over 300lbs a year ago, I'm 170 now after a lot of work. That may be true for most, but 10 years ago my body was horrific

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    it feels like there are 2 kinds of people: those who feel old at 23, and those who don't stop feeling like a child until every hair on their head and face is gray.

    I'd fall into the latter category because i'm 26 and i don't feel quite adult yet, despite the front of my chin being gray already.

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