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No more nazis may be a more appropriate name
Planning that for March 28th is like an excuse to let tensions cool before actually doing anything. You want change? You need sustained action and you need to stroke while the irons HOT.
National Shutdown, tomorrow.
1 year of lib No Kings protests: Nothing happens
1 single day of general strike: Heads are rolling
general strike happened because of the visibility of those protests. The world socialist web site was at the columbus no kings protest handing out fliers and a booth, and i'm sure there were communists around
protests give people permission and reduce the social anxiety to speak out when they see the numbers in them. Its a lot easier to speak up at your workplace about events when theres a massive protest walking past your place of business
protests can beget direct action and shouldn't be criticized when they do. 50501 has been coordinating ice watches and observations that put all the cameras there when violence occurs. I know people want to open carry at these protests ever since Pretti was killed. If everyone is concealed carrying it feels like a 1v30. If everyone is open carrying it may look like a 50v30
The no kings protests forbid any messaging on israel I hear tell. It belies how useless they will be, led by democrats. Our salvation will not come fighting under these dems and if you do not see that yet, well mean words.
The one I went to had a massive contingent of highly vocal/visible Palestine folks. ✊
Same, was newish in town and that's how I met the local anti war org, they hold weekly protests every week, since 2003, go to them almost every week.
The last one I went to also. There was a dedicated section along the march route where a local pro-Palestine group was set up. There were speakers after the march, one of which was representing that group as well. A few other speakers also recognized them to much applause.
Perhaps some specific local chapters decided to sweep this issue under the rug, or perhaps the one local to me ignored a directive to do so.
Please don't spread FUD about direct actions against the Trump regime. In some small towns, Democrats are the only game in town, and can control the protest agenda. In large cities, these protests are organized by a coalition of organizations, with Democrats playing a much smaller role.
If someone at the march has a problem with Palestinian liberation, you can always tell them to fuck off or you can find a section of the march where you're in good company. I have never seen a 1k+ person No Kings march without Palestinian flags.
This was in the country.
What does this even mean? There isn't a security checkpoint that will turn you away. If you wanted to, you could show up with a sign that says "God save the king. I love the Donald." There isn't some single entity that will say you're breaking the rules, you've just got to deal with the consequences of your actions.
That being said, the crowd is a blend of leftists and non-establishment liberals, I would be surprised if anyone took a Zionist stance.
Lastly, read the room. Yes, Israel is still continuing to commit genocide. That's not the top priority of the protest. This feels like going to a pro-choice rally and carrying a sign about climate change. Our views are likely aligned, but that's not our current focus.
source?
don't doubting you, too tired to check myself
Bystanders beware dipshit apathetic comments like this trying to sow defeatism.
Every No Kings Protest has been successful in spreading awareness and driving down Trump's popularity.
This matters. Hitler was popular. Trump is not.
I imagine that if you wanted to organize your own anti-Trump protest instead of attacking someone else's, you could.
Hey, did you know the peaceful push back in Minnesota has been so strong that they've pulled agents out of the city and have reassigned (read: demoted) Bovino?
more than likely Madel dropped out of the governer race and trump backed off from the immigration attacks with ICe. its more than a coincidence. the ice operations in minnesota was suppose to give him brownie points for his election. thats why they drummed up the fraud, immigration, burned to the ground propaganda as soon as Walz dropped out of the race. also because MADEL was offer legal assistance to johnathan ross too.
The 50501 protests have their own uses, both as a method to show others that there are a lot of people who are also angry and upset with things (someone knowing they're not alone is important to take any further steps), and as a way to ease people not used to activism into becoming an activist, and hopefully toward meaningful organizing within their community. It's the start of a pipeline.
Found the Russian troll.
How is the weather in the warm water port of Corpus Christi, in Texas oblast?
Waste of energy fighting under these dems' leadership, do not let these sheep of theirs make you surrender to their doomed to fail opposition.
That's really too far off
Why won't they hold this protests on a weekday when it would maximize economic disruption? Do you really think signs are going to change the Orange Pedo Syphilitic mind?
Week days are also when the least number of people living pay check to pay check can afford to show up.
yes I get that but this is an emergency. If you fall and crack your head open, would you wait for the weekend to go to the ER?
your country is crumbling, rule of law is a joke and the end of democracy has arrived… perhaps clinging to a minimun poverty wage should not be the priority today
plus, good long protests organize food and defense for everyone that would lose everything if they miss work on that time.
Will they give out food or have private security for today's protest? or is that just the latest excuse to not do anything for another round?
did i at any moment say "today's protest" should be canceled or something?
No, but then why is getting food and protection an excuse not to organize a march on a weekday (which is what I was originally talking about)?
i didn't say or imply that at all. i said this would be a way to make an extended strike any day of the week, while allowing those in a more fragile situation to also participate.
OR rather as a way for executing a longer, more effective strike (say, until they undo X policy, or Y politician renounces), which can become sort of a long war of attrition. that's since single-weekend demonstrations aren't getting quite the results.
This is an argument over whether having the protest be on a weekend or a week day is better, not on if we should have a protest at all. By your logic we should do it right now, today. See how well that works out
The point about the weekdays vs weekends is that the gov couldn't care less about a weekend protest, as shown already multiple times.
A general strike on a weekday, stopping the economic movement, would be a TON more noticeable
And yes, you should hold a general strike TODAY
I was talking about yesterday
Even better, start yesterday
You dont seem to understand how organizating works. "Apes together strong" well you can don't shit like this to be effective and last minute.
No, you seem to continue lying to yourself with the fallacy that "this just happened, we need time to organize" when in reality you have zombie walked into this crap for YEARS
What organisating have you been doing, hmm? Other than being a keyboard warrior what have you done? Cause I have been going to protests and boycotting and voting against maga since 2016.
What organisating have you been doing, hmm?
I'm Canadian, so mostly staying away from anything USA and voting against Pierre Poilievre
However, why do you have to wait for everyone else to do something affecting you before you do anything?
Ah so not only are you whiny but you also can't read. I done with you.
Back to pretending your country is not crumbling... got it
If you were truly as active as you pretend to be online, you would not have found my comment offensive as it would clearly not apply to you
I am well aware I am in a deeply privileged position and that you are delusional about how people and the hierarchy of needs work.
I'm not delusional... I am just well aware that those who are about to fall off a cliff, will cling on to the cliff until ICE comes and kicks them in the face
There is little hope of clinging when they will soon come for you... you might as well protest now when there is still a chance
Yay! Picnic. I will bring sandwiches and it will be nice for the kids to be outdoors and have fun.
Looking forward to a repeat every month or so
not me. im going to do the real work of commenting on social media. So gonna fix stuff.
Actually… it will work as long as we vote blue every time, while posting and attending picnics.
The combined moral superiority will inevitably restore justice.
you are a hero sir. doing the real work no matter how hard or ardous. literally typing your fingers to the bone.
I do all the listed above. I think you took my enthusiasm for sarcasm!
yeah sorry. sometimes you get the folks that make comments like that around it being pointless or innefective which always sorta irks me because its like WTF you doing? The repeat every month suggests that nothing will change and you will just be doing it forever as opposed to forcing ice to go someplace else or having bavino taken out or even finally getting enough congressmen to stop appropriations bills.
I participate but strongly feel it is ineffective. And i believe it will not change anything.
I enjoy it. But all it does is getting outside, meeting people, exercising and a picnic. These are all important
The 50501 protests have their own uses, both as a method to show others that there are a lot of people who are also angry and upset with things (someone knowing they're not alone is important to take any further steps), and as a way to ease people not used to activism into becoming an activist, and hopefully toward meaningful organizing within their community.
Yeah I see that it alreadys has changed things and prevented things. Without blow back I think things would have been on about the same timeline as hitler and its the reason he has not been able to imposed changes to state voting laws, has had to realease funding to states and get rid of birthright citizenship so far. Heck the whole ice thing is because he could see he could not take total power within a year. Its why the bonus system is over 5 years so that they can claw them back for pretty much all the idiots who buy into it.
I have not really seen any proof those day long protests do that
The proof to me is its obvious trumps words and actions that he expected to do whatever he wants and his majority party in all branches has not allowed him to achieve that when we are over a year in despite their best unefforts. As much as the complete maga nuts and the administration rage against the protests they help move people who would otherwise be disengaged. It is the reason they are scared as heck now about elections.
There is a lot going on in this country, many other things cause restraints too. Also I have a different view of elections and I don’t think the next year is relevant ( I do expect democrats to win congress).
Trying to isolate the effect of one movement is hard. I were a bad guy, I would actually approve of these monthly marches because they let off steam in a non threatening way
I certainly don't feel like it lets off steam. Im certainly one of the folks who don't want to be out there but the administration has created a situation where it has to be. Mainly by not following the constitution. It makes me feel better to see all the people who feel the same and further makes me feel better to see how very small the people willing to show their support is. Of course I am sad that so many still do not come out but there are also neat things like people showing they would be there if they could and likely go to other things. But taking the steam being built up by the blocked up constitution. I don't see that. No I know comes off a protest saying oh that hit the spot and now they don't need to anymore. Instead I see them more fired up and seeing that they need to keep on pushing and collaborating and figuring out how they can not obey.
I see the current protests as being the most that can be done now: perhaps there are not any mechanisms to do more at this time.
I think there will be many years of gradual decline of law and order in the federal government, and these are still early days for the decline.
I see movements evolving later that are run by different philosophies and peoples. With some overlap between the participants. But the current protests are not necessary for the later movements.
There already is this. There is a local level and a national and everywhere in between. Groups borrow from each other and find things that just fit their area better. Some folks have the time to go out and others have the money to support the movements. Some have space or other resources that help. It will continue to evolve and depending on which directing things take will dictate were we go. The only thing for certain is either we get back to being a modern social democracy or we end up being at best a more "regional" power like russia or worst north korea.
I think the networking like you described will keep on increasing. And that is good.
I view the protests now as not very leftist but more centrist. There are a lot of protests and so this is more a general trend.
I think some later protests will be less liberal, and more leftist, or communist, without the assumption that things merely need to be restored.
However it’s a very big country and there may not be coordinated movements in different regions ; and there may be movements that are in opposition to each other with radically different ideas.
It’s a long future of this later, and many things could happen including outcomes that are not good for most people living here.
It is not guaranteed the good guys will win , or there will be stability
of course its not guaranteed. Many who protest see two options. A return to rule of law at a minimum but really much more in that so much needs to be fixed with a more people centric and less corporate centric country or death. What was expected of individuals even before this was beyond the pale and I think many realize its time to say fuck it until the common person is given a fair shake. Im not going to live in a country where masked, umarked, paramilitary are patrolling cities one way or another. Heck my biggest motivation at this point is the responsibility of not letting my country be a terror on the world stage and also not leaving behind the other folks living with this shit. Heck especially whats left of the native peoples.
I agree with all that.
I believe communism is the only way to achieve those goals, and I believe that, at this time, there is no way to control or manage the decline of the country at the federal level but there will be progress seen in some states and communities
In my mind this decline will take over a generation before it bottoms out. We will be years older when we see what finally occurs
Two months is an eternity with this junta. Who knows what outrage we'll actually be protesting by then.
National Shutdown, this Friday.

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